reaction to buffalo

[iratefan]

3 games in a row shows us some alarming trends with this kansas city football team.

The obvious:
We are playing a solid defensive team who is starting their alternate alternate (alternate?) QB. Hes not a Case Keenum level prodigy, not someone most people have ever really heard of. Going into this game EVERYONE is expecting this kid to make some key mistakes against this Defense.

We have a history of losses at buffalo. Its a tough place to go in later in the season with the cold and come out with a victory. Chiefs have something of a 5 game losing streak there in the past decade (or something like that).

The Ugly:
Offensively, this team has hit rock bottom. Each week seems like a regression, and this is not a QB problem at this point as smith has been pretty damn consistent in his play style whether hes facing big leads or dangerous deficits.

When you have 20 points in a football game by the mid 4th quarter and 6 of them have come off of offensive drives, you have a serious offensive impotency issue. Playcalling feels uninspiring and execution is inconsistent at best. Not one shot was made downfield or at the endzone this game and this is a tough problem to diagnose, largely because we do not know if the source of this is a reluctant quarterback, a lack of receiver speed or zero protection up front allowing for the deep ball. Considering ive seen smith with SOME decent time to throw today, this doesnt fall entirely on the offensive unit.

You cant win big ball games if you arent throwing or running footballs in the endzone.

Ive been fighting the 'chiefs suck' wave all season, but as the season goes on we're looking more like 2012 then we are the first 4 games of the year and im officially panicked.

Defenseively - How can you have a touted top ranked defense in the league and not have a single guy up front that can tackle either running back at the line? On the other hand, how does a defense consistently score as many or more points than the offense is beyond me.

As a whole this team is feeling eerily like a certain 2010 team that won a lot of games and also had a soft schedule and was completely exposed and regressed horribly as the season went on. They wound up getting completely destroyed by a league best level defense in the ravens at home.

We're 9-0 and i couldnt feel any less confident about who or what this team is.

[Bike]

Good post and I agree. This staff has got to figure out a way to get this offense into the end zone.

[nigeriannightmare]

Dude all of what you said is a contradiction. Did you see the drops today? Bowes may have been a TD, Dexters is a TD. WE CONTINUE TO WIN WITH THINGS THAT SHOULD CAUSE US TO LOSE. It's destiny. Enjoy the freaking ride. We are 9 and 0 and you can't find it exciting. Get over yourself. This is a TEAM! We are 9 and 0 and you are seriously gonna knit pick a win. Please folks! This team is 9 and 0. Who gives a crap how we got there!

[kcvet]

this is looking bad vs donks in 2 wks

but at least we now have a winning season

[nigeriannightmare]

I don't agree at all. Not one bit. We were 2 and 14 last year we are 9 and 0. There is nothing and I mean nothing to be upset about. We find ways to win when last year we would have been buried. You all are taking it for granted. Seriously enjoy it. Can we get better. Absolutely. But a win is a win. And we have 9.

[N TX Dave]

Yes look at what we had last year at this time! Sure we can and improve and need to improve but just look at how far we have come in one short year. Did any of us really really think we would win 9 games in the whole season, sure we hoped they would? I know I didn't. I figured we would be good to be 8-8 but right now the worse we could be is 9-7, I am happy with the season already, to me it is a success. Do I want to win the supper bowl, h3ll yes I do, if we don't will I be upset no. I expected it to take a couple of years to be were we are right now, but I will not rise my preseason expectations for the team just because they are already ahead if it, I am going to set back and enjoy the rest of the season. Even if we only win 3 more games we will be 12-4 not a bad season.

[Justin5772002]

I like Andy Reid's gameplan...let the defense score all the TDs, makes for an interesting season. As long as our defense out scores the opposing offense we are winning! So our defense controls the game on both sides of the ball

[spiman]

A win 9-0 I really think we beat Denver-bye helps- Prime time tv yea.. No negative karma plz

[kcvet]

I like Andy Reid's gameplan...let the defense score all the TDs, makes for an interesting season. As long as our defense out scores the opposing offense we are winning! So our defense controls the game on both sides of the ball

beauty's only skin deep but this was ugly to the bone

[brdempsey69]

I don't agree at all. Not one bit. We were 2 and 14 last year we are 9 and 0. There is nothing and I mean nothing to be upset about. We find ways to win when last year we would have been buried. You all are taking it for granted. Seriously enjoy it. Can we get better. Absolutely. But a win is a win. And we have 9.


Yes look at what we had last year at this time! Sure we can and improve and need to improve but just look at how far we have come in one short year. Did any of us really really think we would win 9 games in the whole season, sure we hoped they would? I know I didn't. I figured we would be good to be 8-8 but right now the worse we could be is 9-7, I am happy with the season already, to me it is a success. Do I want to win the supper bowl, h3ll yes I do, if we don't will I be upset no. I expected it to take a couple of years to be were we are right now, but I will not rise my preseason expectations for the team just because they are already ahead if it, I am going to set back and enjoy the rest of the season. Even if we only win 3 more games we will be 12-4 not a bad season.

This and THIS !!

Pay the f$%* attention people and stay cautiously optimistic and take them down one game at a time.

Sure, I'd like to see the Offense do better. They've played some pretty good Defenses as of late, just in case some of you hadn't noticed. Maybe they'll get together, maybe they won't -- time will tell

Someone said this is like 2010. That's pure BULLSH!T !! People's examples listed below.

1. The 2010 squad was a Cinderella team that did NOT have the foundation in place that this 2013 Chiefs team has. The 2013 squad has a much better Front Office and Coaching staff and a lot better player personnel, overall.

2. The 2010 squad played the easiest schedule in team history & did not beat a single team with a winning reccord. That 2010 team was littered with stop-gap measure guys like Thomas Jones, Mike Vrabel, Chris Chambers, Casey Weigmann, Ryan Lilja, Brian Waters, Shaun Smith, etc -- guys that you knew were going to be gone by the end of 2012 at the latest. That's not the case with the current 2013 team.

3. That 2010 O-Line stunk and would have gotten totally demolished by the opposing Defensive Front 7's that the 2013 Chiefs O-Line has had to face thus far this year. I will grant you that the 2013 Chiefs O-Line has much room for improvement, but they've played much better opposing competition than the 2010 squad did.

Personally, I'm grateful for the 9-0 start in 2013. It's not every year that we see that, now is it? Everybody knew this was going to be a season of the new regime building the foundation of the Chiefs team. Not too bad thus far.

[garciakcfan]

This and THIS !!

Pay the f$%* attention people and stay cautiously optimistic and take them down one game at a time.

Sure, I'd like to see the Offense do better. They've played some pretty good Defenses as of late, just in case some of you hadn't noticed. Maybe they'll get together, maybe they won't -- time will tell

Someone said this is like 2010. That's pure BULLSH!T !! People's examples listed below.

1. The 2010 squad was a Cinderella team that did NOT have the foundation in place that this 2013 Chiefs team has. The 2013 squad has a much better Front Office and Coaching staff and a lot better player personnel, overall.

2. The 2010 squad played the easiest schedule in team history & did not beat a single team with a winning reccord. That 2010 team was littered with stop-gap measure guys like Thomas Jones, Mike Vrabel, Chris Chambers, Casey Weigmann, Ryan Lilja, Brian Waters, Shaun Smith, etc -- guys that you knew were going to be gone by the end of 2012 at the latest. That's not the case with the current 2013 team.

3. That 2010 O-Line stunk and would have gotten totally demolished by the opposing Defensive Front 7's that the 2013 Chiefs O-Line has had to face thus far this year. I will grant you that the 2013 Chiefs O-Line has much room for improvement, but they've played much better opposing competition than the 2010 squad did.

Personally, I'm grateful for the 9-0 start in 2013. It's not every year that we see that, now is it? Everybody knew this was going to be a season of the new regime building the foundation of the Chiefs team. Not too bad thus far.

Exactly!! I can't believe how people are reacting to being 9-0. Are you kidding me?? Yeah our offense looks like poo more often than not but I tell you what, I have never seen our D doing these kinds of things for a long long time. When was the last time we had an exciting defense?? I am a firm believer that Defense wins championships and even how football is played now with all the rules and stuff. If you can get after the QB and cause turnovers you should be in every game you play. And it shows!! We are winning close games and to be a good team you have to win like that. I don't care how we win as long as we win.

I am so sick of hearing how, in general, how we are the worst undefeated team in history and how we haven't played anyone with a winning record. I tell you what, when the schedule came out I was like, 3 straight weeks of the NFC East to pretty much start the year... I thought we'd be 2-2 the first 4 weeks into the season. I went to the Giants game and have never felt the stadium like that, what an experience!! After that we just kept winning and we have set ourselves up very nice for the remainder of the season. So shut up and enjoy the ride and finally GO CHIEFS!!!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

Some people are listening to the talking heads too much....you know who I mean....the ones that are saying we only have the record we have because of an easy schedule. Well boys, THEY ARE FULL OF SHI*!!! We are not 6-3 and "in the hunt"! We are 9-0 and in first place in the AFC West and hold the best record in the NFL!!!!

We are not where we are because of our schedule. We are there because when crunch time comes in EVERY SINGLE GAME we have found a way to win. Usually by putting the opposing teams offense in a headlock and squeezing until they can't breathe any more.

This Chiefs team just plain wins games. The games may not be Picasso masterpieces, but every week for 9 weeks in a row the result has been the same....when the game is over Chiefs win! Chiefs win!! Chiefs win!!!

Screw the talking heads! Screw the schedule! Screw the fantasy football numbers! The Chiefs are winning ballgames and that is what they are supposed to do.

[matthewschiefs]

Some people are listening to the talking heads too much....you know who I mean....the ones that are saying we only have the record we have because of an easy schedule. Well boys, THEY ARE FULL OF SHI*!!! We are not 6-3 and "in the hunt"! We are 9-0 and in first place in the AFC West and hold the best record in the NFL!!!!

We are not where we are because of our schedule. We are there because when crunch time comes in EVERY SINGLE GAME we have found a way to win. Usually by putting the opposing teams offense in a headlock and squeezing until they can't breathe any more.

This Chiefs team just plain wins games. The games may not be Picasso masterpieces, but every week for 9 weeks in a row the result has been the same....when the game is over Chiefs win! Chiefs win!! Chiefs win!!!

Screw the talking heads! Screw the schedule! Screw the fantasy football numbers! The Chiefs are winning ballgames and that is what they are supposed to do.


The schedule talk should die down from the donkey loving media should the texans go on to win tonight

That horrible Browns team that the Chiefs barely beat beat one of the "best teams" Denver beat

And if the Texans hold on to win the Chiefs will have beaten a team that beat the team that beat Denver so the Schedule will turn in the Chiefs favor

I don't see it being talked about as much this week it will no longer look good for Denver so they won't talk about it

[Eydugstr]

I like Andy Reid's gameplan...let the defense score all the TDs, makes for an interesting season. As long as our defense out scores the opposing offense we are winning! So our defense controls the game on both sides of the ball

Can think of 9 teams that would swear it worked.

[ctchiefsfan]

All the nerves will start to break out in a rash once a thread on the Denver game gets started, but for now all I have to say is 9-0 and I'll take that record any time I can get it!!!!

[iratefan]

put all your damn pom poms down and at least attempt to analyze the trending headwinds facing this team.

First - of all the *****ing and moaning from last week's close game, we faced a team that game playing much better ball than this buffalo team. I think maybe 10 people read my rather positive analysis of the performance, aside from oline protection for alex, in an attempt to bring half of you off the ledge.

This game in buffalo was a different story. And the very worrying aspect of it is that its turning into a spiraling trend that clearly isnt improving after several weeks of acknowledgement by team and staff noting how they are 'working on it'.

Chiefs total offense this game : 210 yards. "return yards" : ~180. We almost had as many yards in returns as total offense. 14 direct points coming off defensive touchdowns and 3 field goals from 60 minutes of offense. Our longest throw was 20 yards, and we had given charles a sorry 7 touches by some point midway through the 4th quarter.

Bills total offense with a 4th string QB was over 440 yards, 1 touchdown and 2 Ints. without Sean Smiths pic 6 that could very well have been 2 tds and 1 int.

Stats clearly do not win games. Tamba Hali remarks that he doesnt care about people's expectations of how they win in his post game remarks. They got the job done. and guess what? IM GLAD THEY GOT IT DONE! Lets make no mistake about that.

But offensively, execution has seemingly regressed through the season. Smith's completion rate was actually higher than his season avg at about 65%, but Bowe dropped a handful of conversion passes, one critical drop in the redzone on a second and short, and mccluster drops a perfect pass wide open downfield on the only 'downfield shot' that I recall seeing all game. The offensive line drew 3 or 4 penalties in the first quarter alone and were otherwise being abused by buffalo's front line men. This is NOT an INSPIRING performance, and in a vacuum seeing this in just one game is excusable, but this isnt a single game phenomenon and it is becoming a serious weak point with this team.

Now is this team the 2010 team? uhhh no. Watching the two seasons progress feels eerily similar though. Both teams showed strong offensive potency early in the season and were increasingly and systematically shut down as the season progressed. That cost the 2010 team some late season losses (not as important as denver was not a threat that year and chargers were imploding), but ultimately set a blueprint to shut the production down.

Why do defenses have a chance to be great? because theyre not on the field for 30+ minutes of the game. If an offense is systematically shut down and the defense finds itself increasingly on the field more often, that high octane effort begins to break down. Im sure its a combination of mental and physical fatigue. But Ive been hearing the chatter that the defense is becoming less potent as the season goes on. partially because offenses have more tape to figure out how to counter the pass rush threats (0 sacks this game against buffalo) but also, Id argue, because theyve been on the field ore often. no long sustained drives to give them a rest. no offensive endzones to give them a motivational push. These are the similarities in the trends that i remember seeing in 2010 and I dont like it one bit.

Drops happen and sometimes big drops happen more frequently in certain games, but not taking a single downfield shot, minus the mccluster wide open drop, SEEMS inexcusable in this modern league (i say seems because you see many other explosive offensive teams but none of them are 9-0).

Im glad youre all happy and that we're still undefeated and trust me im glad we won. But damn if this is the road show we expect to bring to mile high in two weeks and frankly, the whole back end of our schedule, this team could discover some serious issues in a hurry that they may not be able to easily fix. The WORST thing id hate to see happen to this team is have them hit a losing streak towards the end of the season and lose momentum and confidence.

Confidence is a funny thing and can sometimes make all the difference in how you play, and this chiefs offense seems to lack any sense of confidence, and Im fearing that it may eventually spill over into the defensive effort.

BTW if anyones watching the SNF game - it appears Case Keenum isnt quite the lowly 3rd stringer that our critics would claim. I thought that kid showed great promise coming into arrowhead the way he played and he is LIGHTING THE COLTS UP right now with a deadly accurate long ball.

BTW this texan teams top WR this game has almost as many yards HIMSELF IN THE FIRST HALF than this chiefs offense had against the bills all damn game. This is with Keenum starting his second damn game ever.

We have some serious problems here! And like the chiefs mentality of taking one game at a time, ill take one victory at a time with a grain of salt. Ill begin to feel better when this team shows the world that they are PROgressing and not REgressing.

[jason1981]

Why is theree 2 threads of the same subject?

[Chiefster]

I'm merely speculating here, but I think it may well be possible that, at least in part, some of the reaction we are seeing from folks is brought on by the memory of the 2003 season when we started 9-0 and failed to advance in the first game of the playoffs. However, it is, at least for me, extremely difficult to know exactly how this team would respond in a playoff game because this team is the exact mirror opposite of the 2003 Chiefs whose success came primarily from their offense while our current success comes primarily from our defense. It will be interesting to see, if the old saying holds true, just how close toward a championship our defense can brings us.

[matthewschiefs]

Why is theree 2 threads of the same subject?

Sometimes threads about the same thing are being made at the same time

[Chiefster]

Why is theree 2 threads of the same subject?


Welcome to the Chiefs Crowd.


...Good question.

[Chiefster]

Sometimes threads about the same thing are being made at the same time

Good answer.

[Canada]

Ive enjoyed the ride to this point!! No one imagined a 9 point turnaround. But no one can argue that we have had a pretty favorable schedule this year. Regardless, we beat the teams in front of us. But I think the last 7 games are the real test. Its time to see what this team is made of. How do they react to a loss? We play some tough games to end the regular season and it would be nice to see some big wins in December and January. I still think this offense needs to improve, but they have only been together 9 games. Now coordinator, new HC, new QB.... its a work in progress. I think Andy is ready for Denver....lets get 10-0

[ctchiefsfan]

Ive enjoyed the ride to this point!! No one imagined a 9 point turnaround. But no one can argue that we have had a pretty favorable schedule this year. Regardless, we beat the teams in front of us. But I think the last 7 games are the real test. Its time to see what this team is made of. How do they react to a loss? We play some tough games to end the regular season and it would be nice to see some big wins in December and January. I still think this offense needs to improve, but they have only been together 9 games. Now coordinator, new HC, new QB.... its a work in progress. I think Andy is ready for Denver....lets get 10-0

You are SOOOO right Canada! I was almost going to quibble with "it would be nice to see some big wins in December and January" but then I saw that word "nice" in there and I realized there was nothing I could quibble with. It WOULD be nice, but if we are still winning in December and January I won't care if the wins are by 1 point or 21 points. I just want us to keep winning!!!!

BRING ON THE BRONCOS!!!!!!!

CHIEFS NEED TO ADD SOME PONIES TO THE HERD!!!!!!!!!!

[Isawa_mo]

I acknowledge the team has flaws. I am enjoying the ride this season, anyhow. First year of a new group. 9-0 from 2-14? Pretty much unheard of! Team is playing with house money now.

I am just never sure what purpose there is in hitting the forums and complaining about the shortcomings. Are we as fans so delusional to think the coach is coming here,reading it, and going to adjust based on our opinions? I would not even want that! We are all just armchair QBs.

[TopekaRoy]

I needed to take 24 hours to let yesterday's disappointing loss to the Bills marinate a little. We have such bad luck against ...

What? We won!? How can that be? People posting here are saying that both our offense and defense were terrible.

Let's see. Our Chiefs average 24 points per game and yesterday they scored 23. The Chiefs were giving up 12.8 points per game and yesterday they gave up 13. What a shocking display of ineptitude! That's not how they won 8 games in a row. Wait a minute. Yes, it is! What did you expect? This is what the Chiefs do.

Yes, I know the offense didn't score any touchdowns. Doesn't matter. The defense did. "But," you say, "we can't count on the defense to bail out the offense every week." We don't have to. But when the offense struggles, the defense steps up. That's a very good thing.

We beat Houston by 1 point and Cleveland by 6 points. So after we beat the Bills by 10 points, people are saying the Chiefs are going in the wrong direction! That was our 4th largest margin of victory this year. My first thought after the win was that if we hadn't dropped just 2 wide open passes, we would have won 34-13. That is a blowout.

Before the game some were saying this was a trap game. Some were saying we always struggle in Buffalo and haven't won there in a long time. No trap. We won. Some were very worried that the Bills were 2nd in the NFL in sacks and 2nd in turnovers generated. Smith was sacked twice for a total of only 9 yards and didn't throw a single interception.

I think some of you are forgetting that the Chiefs were 2-14 last year and only scored 8 offensive touchdowns the entire year. This offense is leaps and bounds ahead of last year's offense but it still has a long way to go. There was just too much to fix in one season. Be patient. The Chiefs will get there.

I don't know why the Chiefs didn't run the ball more. That was a mistake in my opinion. But in 7 carries Charles only ran for 22 yards and his longest run was 10 yards. The run wasn't very effective, but it still should have been mixed in more. I'm sure we will run the ball more against Denver. We will have to. I've seen a lot of big play potential over the last couple of weeks, but the offense needs to string more of those plays together. I think they will.

The Chiefs have also been struggling with nagging injuries on both sides of the ball including Charles, Bowe and Flowers, three of our best players. Hopefully we will see some improvement after they have an extra week to rest and heal.

The way the Chiefs play is going to usually result in low scoring close games. Get used to it. 9-0. That's all that matters.

[chief31]

This debate will start getting real fuel with each game for the rest of the year.

But I don't think anybody is dissapointed with this team right now.

[iratefan]

This debate will start getting real fuel with each game for the rest of the year.

But I don't think anybody is dissapointed with this team right now.


I dont really know what is up for debate here, im simply pointing out observations that are trending negatively. Its not like Im making a "Chiefs/AlexSmith/AndyReid SUCKS" thread.

You are absolutely right though in that there is zero disappointment.

Theres a funny thing about expectations, going into a new season from a 2-14 season the previous year, there basically are no expectations. When you go halfway through the new season perfect, expectations start to change in a hurry, particularly when you are the lone undefeated team left in the league.

[garciakcfan]

I think Andy Reid was passing to try and get some confidence going with the passing game. How are they ever going to improve if they don't push the issue?? I will not ever put my pom poms down, I suffered, like many, through a 2-14 year last year and I am damn proud of where we are right now regardless of how we got here. People on this forum are in love with the vermeil years when they put up good numbers on offense and we looked pretty. I can care less about the stats and numbers because the only stat that matters is W's!!!! So go ahead and play monday morning quarterback and I'll keep shouting GO CHIEFS!!! Defense wins CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

I needed to take 24 hours to let yesterday's disappointing loss to the Bills marinate a little. We have such bad luck against ...

What? We won!? How can that be? People posting here are saying that both our offense and defense were terrible.

Let's see. Our Chiefs average 24 points per game and yesterday they scored 23. The Chiefs were giving up 12.8 points per game and yesterday they gave up 13. What a shocking display of ineptitude! That's not how they won 8 games in a row. Wait a minute. Yes, it is! What did you expect? This is what the Chiefs do.

Yes, I know the offense didn't score any touchdowns. Doesn't matter. The defense did. "But," you say, "we can't count on the defense to bail out the offense every week." We don't have to. But when the offense struggles, the defense steps up. That's a very good thing.

We beat Houston by 1 point and Cleveland by 6 points. So after we beat the Bills by 10 points, people are saying the Chiefs are going in the wrong direction! That was our 4th largest margin of victory this year. My first thought after the win was that if we hadn't dropped just 2 wide open passes, we would have won 34-13. That is a blowout.

Before the game some were saying this was a trap game. Some were saying we always struggle in Buffalo and haven't won there in a long time. No trap. We won. Some were very worried that the Bills were 2nd in the NFL in sacks and 2nd in turnovers generated. Smith was sacked twice for a total of only 9 yards and didn't throw a single interception.

I think some of you are forgetting that the Chiefs were 2-14 last year and only scored 8 offensive touchdowns the entire year. This offense is leaps and bounds ahead of last year's offense but it still has a long way to go. There was just too much to fix in one season. Be patient. The Chiefs will get there.

I don't know why the Chiefs didn't run the ball more. That was a mistake in my opinion. But in 7 carries Charles only ran for 22 yards and his longest run was 10 yards. The run wasn't very effective, but it still should have been mixed in more. I'm sure we will run the ball more against Denver. We will have to. I've seen a lot of big play potential over the last couple of weeks, but the offense needs to string more of those plays together. I think they will.

The Chiefs have also been struggling with nagging injuries on both sides of the ball including Charles, Bowe and Flowers, three of our best players. Hopefully we will see some improvement after they have an extra week to rest and heal.

The way the Chiefs play is going to usually result in low scoring close games. Get used to it. 9-0. That's all that matters.

Wish I could have given this post 100 thumbs up! Another game, another win, by our usual margin. Yup! We need to get better. TOUGH opponents coming. But let us be clear....we're 9-0, lead the AFC West and the ONLY undefeated team in the NFL. And that is 9 weeks into the season after a 2-14 performance. I AM THRILLED AND I WANT MORE!!!!!

[Chiefster]

I needed to take 24 hours to let yesterday's disappointing loss to the Bills marinate a little. We have such bad luck against ...

What? We won!? How can that be? People posting here are saying that both our offense and defense were terrible.

Let's see. Our Chiefs average 24 points per game and yesterday they scored 23. The Chiefs were giving up 12.8 points per game and yesterday they gave up 13. What a shocking display of ineptitude! That's not how they won 8 games in a row. Wait a minute. Yes, it is! What did you expect? This is what the Chiefs do.

Yes, I know the offense didn't score any touchdowns. Doesn't matter. The defense did. "But," you say, "we can't count on the defense to bail out the offense every week." We don't have to. But when the offense struggles, the defense steps up. That's a very good thing.

We beat Houston by 1 point and Cleveland by 6 points. So after we beat the Bills by 10 points, people are saying the Chiefs are going in the wrong direction! That was our 4th largest margin of victory this year. My first thought after the win was that if we hadn't dropped just 2 wide open passes, we would have won 34-13. That is a blowout.

Before the game some were saying this was a trap game. Some were saying we always struggle in Buffalo and haven't won there in a long time. No trap. We won. Some were very worried that the Bills were 2nd in the NFL in sacks and 2nd in turnovers generated. Smith was sacked twice for a total of only 9 yards and didn't throw a single interception.

I think some of you are forgetting that the Chiefs were 2-14 last year and only scored 8 offensive touchdowns the entire year. This offense is leaps and bounds ahead of last year's offense but it still has a long way to go. There was just too much to fix in one season. Be patient. The Chiefs will get there.

I don't know why the Chiefs didn't run the ball more. That was a mistake in my opinion. But in 7 carries Charles only ran for 22 yards and his longest run was 10 yards. The run wasn't very effective, but it still should have been mixed in more. I'm sure we will run the ball more against Denver. We will have to. I've seen a lot of big play potential over the last couple of weeks, but the offense needs to string more of those plays together. I think they will.

The Chiefs have also been struggling with nagging injuries on both sides of the ball including Charles, Bowe and Flowers, three of our best players. Hopefully we will see some improvement after they have an extra week to rest and heal.

The way the Chiefs play is going to usually result in low scoring close games. Get used to it. 9-0. That's all that matters.

Very good points all around, as Marty once alluded to: the only stat that means anything is the one in the win/loss column. However, as a Chiefs fan that has, for much of the last decade, shared in the pain of all Chiefs fans our disgraceful season woes, I can also understand the cautious optimism or even the nervous skepticism given the opponents we've played and the certain amount of good fortune that has been afforded to us in many of our wins this season even though we are happily 9-0. I’m not trying, at all, to take anything away from our wins, but instead attempting to stay grounded. Regardless of how the rest of the season goes I will maintain that we are a good team who needs to continue to work at getting better.

[TopekaRoy]

... I’m not trying, at all, to take anything away from our wins, but instead attempting to stay grounded. ...

Meh. Staying grounded is over-rated. Enjoying our success to the fullest is a lot more fun! :biggrin:

[Chiefster]

Meh. Staying grounded is over-rated. Enjoying our success to the fullest is a lot more fun! :biggrin:

True, but the higher you ride success the farther you have to fall should utter failure rear it's ugly head. However, I understand what your saying and admire your legitimate optimistic outlook.

[TopekaRoy]

True, but the higher you ride success the farther you have to fall should utter failure rear it's ugly head. However, I understand what your saying and admire your legitimate optimistic outlook.

Yeah, I'm different from most people, I guess. My highest highs are not that high and my lowest lows are not that low. Whatever is the total opposite of a manic-depressive (emotionally stunted?), that's me. Anyone who's read many of my posts can see that I am very left-brain dominant; analytical, logical and not much emotion reaction.

But I'm not going to go out of my way to look for reasons to "lower my expectations" because I'm worried about how I might feel if and when disappointment comes. It's not that much of a crash for me and I get over things very quickly.

[Justin5772002]

Right there with you Roy! I'm an optimist

[Chiefster]

I'm the cautiously optimistic guy. :D

[Chiefster]

Yeah, I'm different from most people, I guess. My highest highs are not that high and my lowest lows are not that low. Whatever is the total opposite of a manic-depressive (emotionally stunted?), that's me. Anyone who's read many of my posts can see that I am very left-brain dominant; analytical, logical and not much emotion reaction.

But I'm not going to go out of my way to look for reasons to "lower my expectations" because I'm worried about how I might feel if and when disappointment comes. It's not that much of a crash for me and I get over things very quickly.


I tend to be quite the opposite, which is why I admire the way you look at things; I detest disappointment so I tend to lower my expectations as a bit of a defense mechanism. Admittedly, I care far too much about these kinds of things and understand that particular outlook is probably not steeped in much realism with regards to just how important it all is in the grand scheme of things. Hey it's who I am, however, I think I'm better about it than I used to be, now I don't know if that's due to my way coping with disappointment or the fact that I'm 50 years old and life is increasingly becoming far too short.
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[N TX Dave]

The way I look at it is I want the Chiefs to win but if they don't it does not upset me because win or lose my life is the same come Monday if I don't let it bother me. I get upset during the game but when the clock strikes zero that is the end of the game and life goes on no matter if they won or lost. As far as this season goes I am pleased with the season no matter if they lose the last 7 games and end up 9-7, I know most people want everything right now and will not be happy if they win 3 of the next 5 SB because they did not win it the other two years and that means they are losers.

Going from 1st pick in the draft (read worst team in NFL) to a 9-7 at worst team in one year is one he11 of a turn around I don't care who they played or how they did it. Right now this season was a success. Now do I want them to keep wining YES, will I be happy if they go on and win the SB your damn right I will be, but no matter how the season ends my family or myself will not be any wealthier, healthier or wiser, in other words my life will run the same course no matter what happens to the Chiefs because I a happy with what they have done this year.

Truthfully how many people said they would be happy to win 7-9 games before the season started after the mess last year? I know someone will say I said they were going to win 12+ games but did you really think they would, probably not it was just eternal hope all us half full fans have.

[brdempsey69]

Personally, I'm not carrying any pom-poms of any sort. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I know good coaching making good use of good players when I see it.

If you had told me before the season that the season started the Chiefs would be 9-0 and would beat the Giants and beat the Bills in Buffalo, I would have responded "I'll believe it when I see it". Well seeing is believing, because they did it.

[Justin5772002]

The way I look at it is I want the Chiefs to win but if they don't it does not upset me because win or lose my life is the same come Monday if I don't let it bother me. I get upset during the game but when the clock strikes zero that is the end of the game and life goes on no matter if they won or lost. As far as this season goes I am pleased with the season no matter if they lose the last 7 games and end up 9-7, I know most people want everything right now and will not be happy if they win 3 of the next 5 SB because they did not win it the other two years and that means they are losers.

Going from 1st pick in the draft (read worst team in NFL) to a 9-7 at worst team in one year is one he11 of a turn around I don't care who they played or how they did it. Right now this season was a success. Now do I want them to keep wining YES, will I be happy if they go on and win the SB your damn right I will be, but no matter how the season ends my family or myself will not be any wealthier, healthier or wiser, in other words my life will run the same course no matter what happens to the Chiefs because I a happy with what they have done this year.

Truthfully how many people said they would be happy to win 7-9 games before the season started after the mess last year? I know someone will say I said they were going to win 12+ games but did you really think they would, probably not it was just eternal hope all us half full fans have.
I made two $20 bets in Vegas that says otherwise about myself not believing we will do well this season. Dates would show you that I made those bets before this season began right after Andy Reid went out and got Alex Smith!

[ctchiefsfan]

Staying grounded is over-rated. Enjoying our success to the fullest is a lot more fun! :biggrin:

Who wants to stay on the ground? Being SKY HIGH is more fun!!!! Even the girl at the local tavern said today that she had never seen me smile this much before. Are we going to lose some games? Probably. Are we going to go "one and done"? Might do. Are we going to make the Super Bowl? Long odds. Are we going to win the Super Bowl? Much longer odds. But dammitall we are 9-0 and the ONLY UNDEFEATED TEAM IN THE NFL!!!!! And I am going to enjoy every damned second of it!!!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

True, but the higher you ride success the farther you have to fall should utter failure rear it's ugly head. However, I understand what your saying and admire your legitimate optimistic outlook.

I'll take the crash if it happens! Been there, done that, survived!!!!!!!!!!!!! Meanwhile I AM LOVING EVERY SECOND OF IT AND INTEND TO SQUEEZE EVERY LAST BIT OF JOY I CAN OUT OF THIS SEASON!!!!!! HUNGRY FOR BBQ DONKEY!!!!! MMMMMM.....GIT SOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

I'm 50 years old and life is increasingly becoming far too short.
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Young buck ain'tcha?

[Pro_Angler]

the way this team has played the last many years we have right to fel suspect of our team. It will take time and consistency to change the feelings not only for chiefs fans but the leagues as a whole about us.

[Chiefster]

Young buck ain'tcha?

And getting younger.
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[chiefnut]

look, here is my take....not that anyone should care but I don't believe we have overachieved this season, only played well enough to beat the level of talent so far. now true that level is a tad low but whenever we have been pressed it seemed we did just enough to win. no I do not believe this a super bowl team.....yet! I do however believe that Denver is beatable, yes by the CHIEFS and with 2 weeks to prepare some new blitzes and continue to improve the offense it can happen. maybe by the end of the season we can be a true contender rather than a pretender which what we are perceived to be now. remember the dropped pas by mccluster, that was a TD, and there was a few other key drops as well as a few errant throws that would have accounted for some points. and the bills also had key flubs. that's why u play the game. in the end I think the CHIEFS were not totally up for the bills so to escape with a win, no matter how we played is a huge plus, plus, plus. I see us winning at least 3 games, maybe up to 5 of the remaining 7. that should put us atop the division and could mean home field, then its a brand new season and we will see what metal the team is made of. oh BTW I liked all the targets to Bowe, good to see him back in the mix.

[tornadospotter]

And getting younger.
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You chiseled your signature on many a stone in the day of your youth! Now you are in your prime!:11:

[Chiefster]

You chiseled your signature on many a stone in the day of your youth! Now you are in your prime!:11:

many thought my "X" was the number 10.