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Frankenchief
12-23-2013, 12:31 AM
I just had an debate with a friend who thought the Chiefs should rest the starters next week, minimizing the risk of some starter injury, and take a loss now that they have clinched 5th seed.

Well, hold on, I say, hold on there, chicken hawk!!!... I think if there were ever a game to try to build self confidence heading into the playoffs it is the upcoming SD game. This team has to be feeling that they can't beat playoff caliber teams. The proof is in the pudding. Denver, SD, Denver again, and now Indy. I don't think anyone can argue that SD is a playoff caliber team that may have awaken a bit too late in the season. Beating them on their turf - even in a game meaningless to us otherwise - can transform this young squad from playoff losers to some advance potential.

So I say, go full force and don't worry about the risks.

Which side of this debate are you on?

Justin5772002
12-23-2013, 01:00 AM
I say rest the starters. What's done is done. TAMBA hurt his knee in the Indy game he definately needs to sit and Houstin should get a few reps to see where he is then sit him also. I say use this week in SD as our starters playoff bye and get them ready for Indy again in 2 weeks. At the very most great this as a preseason game and pull the starters at the half.

another note lets see how some of our benched players are developing who knows maybe bray can make an appearance and we can see how he's coming along. You know SD is very much alive in the wildcard race so they're going to play their starters. Should be interesting if our backups can beat them (trade values go sky high)

jap1
12-23-2013, 03:46 AM
I say play the starters for the first quarter or first half. Have some scripted drives to accomplish specific things on offense, then pull them. Maybe get a 2 minute drill in there. If the O scores a couple times, even better. Let them go out on a high note. I would also consider pulling JC even earlier, possibly after the first series.

On Defense, I would play the starters including and especially Houston. We need to make sure he is comfortable/capable of reaching out for a running back with his injured arm and making they tackle, as well as driving through an OL-man. Most importantly, we need to be sure that Houston has the CONFIDENCE to do all the things he needs to do without hesitation. If Hali is hurt enough to not practice this week, then he should probably either sit or only play one or two series.

Coach
12-23-2013, 07:23 AM
I think Jamaal Charles has earned a bye week. Besides, I'd like to see Knile Davis get 90 carries next week as he learns how to hold on to the damn ball. Outside of Jamaal and Alex Smith, I think all of our backups are as good as our starters anyway. I don't see a difference between AJ Jenkins, Junior Hemingway, Donnie Avery, or Dwayne Bowe! If so, please explain it because I just don't see it.

On defense, I'd rest everyone except the secondary. Not because they've earned it, but because they need it. They were on the field for 38 of the 60 minute game yesterday. The secondary needs to run laps as far as I'm concerned. Hit someone, figure out how to cover someone, geez. Pretend you have an ounce of self respect. Yes, you too Brandon Flowers! Our secondary has been absolutely torched week after week for weeks.

Lewis_Chiefs
12-23-2013, 08:45 AM
Rest the starters on offence and give Tyler Bray a chance. On defense I'd give the front 7 a rest but the secondary needs playing time. Make sure that everyone is healthy for the playoffs and hope that we have Albert and Houston back for then.

iratefan
12-23-2013, 09:13 AM
the only guy on this squad i see even deserving of rest would be jamaal charles. also perhaps D johnson but if that guy isnt in the center of the D i fear for that whole squad's professional careers as the wheels would truly fall off.

Alex smith is pretty smart about putting himself into positions where he wont be injured. we need him getting momentum and confidence.

If we dont come out and play with some tenacity and spirit away at san diego i feel we can basically kiss the rest of the post season goodbye. backing into the wildcard playoff game would be an understatement after getting a blowout loss vs SD at this point.

ctchiefsfan
12-23-2013, 09:47 AM
I also think we need to go all out to put a beating on san diego. A losing streak before the playoffs tends to lead to one and done. That said, I wouldn't want to see anyone who is hurt rushed back into the lineup before he is truly ready.

Pro_Angler
12-23-2013, 12:24 PM
Beat them!! We can't let them in the playoffs!!!

Seek
12-23-2013, 01:12 PM
Rest the Starters. Trying to build up momentum means squat when you lose a key starter playing a game that means nothing with your seeding. Everyone's goal is to make the superbowl. Winning or losing in San Diego does not help or jeapordize that goal unless someone gets hurt and then it only hurts.

What happens if you play the starters and the exact opposite happens. They get exploited like they did last time and it destroys team chemistry.

Frankenchief
12-23-2013, 05:14 PM
I think Jamaal Charles has earned a bye week. Besides, I'd like to see Knile Davis get 90 carries next week as he learns how to hold on to the damn ball. Sadly I have a feeling fumbling can't be coached out of him. Maybe despite my motto I'm judging him too soon. But every time he gets the ball I have a sinking feeling in my chest.

Justin5772002
12-23-2013, 07:05 PM
Sadly I have a feeling fumbling can't be coached out of him. Maybe despite my motto I'm judging him too soon. But every time he gets the ball I have a sinking feeling in my chest.
He's got the best coach to teach him how to hold the football in Jamaal Charles. Wasn't Jamaal like that in the beginning of his pro career?

Justin5772002
12-23-2013, 07:08 PM
Give the guy a break he has been pivotal in this years success and he gets Jamaal Charles off the field for some rests and has quality plays

jap1
12-23-2013, 07:41 PM
It can be coached out of him. It will just take some more time. Usually guys who come in to the league with fumbling issues dont fix it until their second season. However, he has made huge improvements since the beginning of the season when he couldnt even cleanly catch kickoffs.

Frankenchief
12-23-2013, 09:26 PM
Give the guy a break he has been pivotal in this years success and he gets Jamaal Charles off the field for some rests and has quality plays

For that I like to see more of Cyrus Grey. I think CG is very underrated.

Justin5772002
12-24-2013, 01:45 AM
For that I like to see more of Cyrus Grey. I think CG is very underrated. CG for special teams too? CG already has his assignments on special teams and it's as a blocker not a returner

Frankenchief
12-24-2013, 03:03 AM
CG as back up running back to Jamaal. That's what I meant.

Justin5772002
12-24-2013, 06:52 AM
I'm saying as an all around contributer to this team in all phases knile Davis has been a great asset. So what if he had a bad game in his Rookie season. He will learn if he doesn't coach Reid will know when to pull the plug on him

BoltWalt
12-24-2013, 07:01 AM
Beat them!! We can't let them in the playoffs!!!
Why the Hell not? Hell this game may not matter at all to the Bolts if both Miami and Baltimore fail to lose, and in that case let me say good luck! Personally I would like to see the AFC West send three teams to the playoffs, just to show the rest of the league the quality of play in the AFC West.

Justin5772002
12-24-2013, 11:09 AM
Why the Hell not? Hell this game may not matter at all to the Bolts if both Miami and Baltimore fail to lose, and in that case let me say good luck! Personally I would like to see the AFC West send three teams to the playoffs, just to show the rest of the league the quality of play in the AFC West.
has that ever been done before?

jap1
12-24-2013, 03:31 PM
has that ever been done before?
I know other divisions have in the past, but not sure about specifically the AFC West. This year there is a decent shot that the Cards get in and that would make 3 teams from the NFC West.

Chiefster
12-24-2013, 04:42 PM
Why the Hell not? Hell this game may not matter at all to the Bolts if both Miami and Baltimore fail to lose, and in that case let me say good luck! Personally I would like to see the AFC West send three teams to the playoffs, just to show the rest of the league the quality of play in the AFC West.

I would think that you would want to beat us at our best at full strength in order to give legitimacy to your potential playoff berth. However, I understand what you're saying. As fans of our perspective favorite football teams we want to see our teams win every time they take the field. Well it just so happens that our teams meet this Sunday and I'm not a big fan of seeing mine throw a game simply because we can, and I would think you would like to see your team earn it rather than having it handed to you on a silver platter.

BoltWalt
12-24-2013, 06:06 PM
I would think you would like to see your team earn it rather than having it handed to you on a silver platter.To be honest, I'll take the win any way the Bolts can get it. I am looking for this playoff to give the current team experience in the playoffs so that when they get into the playoffs next year they will have the experience of having been there before.

Justin5772002
12-24-2013, 10:36 PM
To be honest, I'll take the win any way the Bolts can get it. I am looking for this playoff to give the current team experience in the playoffs so that when they get into the playoffs next year they will have the experience of having been there before.
Ha, it would have to be a wild card again cause we are taking the division next year

Chiefster
12-25-2013, 12:43 AM
To be honest, I'll take the win any way the Bolts can get it. I am looking for this playoff to give the current team experience in the playoffs so that when they get into the playoffs next year they will have the experience of having been there before.


That makes sense I guess.

BoltWalt
12-25-2013, 01:49 AM
has that ever been done before?

The AFC west has had two teams make the wild card rounds in the following years:

1983 Denver and Seattle
1984 Seattle and Oakland
1991 Kansas City and Oakland
1993 Denver and LA raiders

The Source for this was the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_West.

Chiefster
12-25-2013, 10:19 AM
The AFC west has had two teams make the wild card rounds in the following years:

1983 Denver and Seattle
1984 Seattle and Oakland
1991 Kansas City and Oakland
1993 Denver and LA raiders

The Source for this was the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_West.

Looks like we are going to give the Bolts their wish...

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/showthread.php/23688-Webnews-Chiefs-will-%E2%80%9Cmix-and-match%E2%80%9D-starters-and-reserves-this-w

Eydugstr
12-26-2013, 12:40 AM
To be honest, I'll take the win any way the Bolts can get it. I am looking for this playoff to give the current team experience in the playoffs so that when they get into the playoffs next year they will have the experience of having been there before.

BoltWalt - I ask this because I think you're a good poster, not trying to start anything just want to hear an answer from a Bolts fan...What's the overall mood in San Diego now that A.J. Smith is gone? Is the general feeling that things are better or worse there in SD?

BoltWalt
12-27-2013, 11:24 PM
Looks like we are going to give the Bolts their wish...

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/showthread.php/23688-Webnews-Chiefs-will-%E2%80%9Cmix-and-match%E2%80%9D-starters-and-reserves-this-w
"If either the Dolphins or Ravens win, the Chargers will be out of the playoff hunt"

That is the killer in that the Chargers must hope for the Jets to defeat Miami and the Ravens to defeat the Bengals, I just don't see the Jets defeating Miami.

BoltWalt
12-27-2013, 11:30 PM
BoltWalt - I ask this because I think you're a good poster, not trying to start anything just want to hear an answer from a Bolts fan...What's the overall mood in San Diego now that A.J. Smith is gone? Is the general feeling that things are better or worse there in SD?
There was much rejoicing when both Smith and Turner were sacked.

BoltWalt
12-28-2013, 12:13 AM
BoltWalt - I ask this because I think you're a good poster, not trying to start anything just want to hear an answer from a Bolts fan...What's the overall mood in San Diego now that A.J. Smith is gone? Is the general feeling that things are better or worse there in SD?
There was much rejoicing when both Smith and Turner were sacked.

KristofLaw
12-28-2013, 12:44 AM
"If either the Dolphins or Ravens win, the Chargers will be out of the playoff hunt"

That is the killer in that the Chargers must hope for the Jets to defeat Miami and the Ravens to defeat the Bengals, I just don't see the Jets defeating Miami.

Buffalo shut them out last week, that was not expected by most but fits recent Dolphin history. The Ravens are winners, I wouldn't hold out the 'Phins shooting themselves in the foot.

I would play most if not all of our guys and I hope the coaches coach our team up on the importance of trying our hardest to get some rivalry cred back. It's not a Madden thing this is life.

Chiefster
12-28-2013, 01:03 AM
There was much rejoicing when both Smith and Turner were sacked.


There was much rejoicing when both Smith and Turner were sacked.

A reply so good it bore repeating??? :lol:

KCMASS
12-28-2013, 06:56 AM
Sadly I have a feeling fumbling can't be coached out of him. Maybe despite my motto I'm judging him too soon. But every time he gets the ball I have a sinking feeling in my chest.

I agree. That was his problem in college, plus he couldn't stay healthy. I was surprised we took him in the 3rd round. He seems like he has so much potential, but if he can't hang onto the ball he is no use to us.

chief31
12-28-2013, 01:24 PM
Why the Hell not? Hell this game may not matter at all to the Bolts if both Miami and Baltimore fail to lose, and in that case let me say good luck! Personally I would like to see the AFC West send three teams to the playoffs, just to show the rest of the league the quality of play in the AFC West.

I am with ya Walt.

It wouldn't bother me to see the AFC West with three teams in the playoffs. Not to mention, the only way we would see them would be in the AFC Championship game, which would, then, be played at Arrowhead.

But, most importantly, I want my squad as healthy as possible heading into the postseason.

JPPT1974
12-28-2013, 10:54 PM
Well the Chiefs are in no matter what. I just worry that the Chargers would get the #6 seed and be very powerful during the playoffs as that is a major concern for me.

Frankenchief
12-29-2013, 02:45 AM
Well the Chiefs are in no matter what. I just worry that the Chargers would get the #6 seed and be very powerful during the playoffs as that is a major concern for me.If Miami beats the Jets (very probable) earlier your concern will be moot.

BoltWalt
12-29-2013, 04:01 AM
A reply so good it bore repeating??? :lol:
Not at all, I screwed up. It seems that I am unable to delete my own postings.:11:

Chiefster
12-29-2013, 12:06 PM
Not at all, I screwed up. It seems that I am unable to delete my own postings.:11:

LOL! Yeah I know, I'm just ribbin ya. :smile