Colin Roethlishberer?!!!

[Frankenchief]

Colin Kaepernick Investigated for Possible Sexual Assault in Miami
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2024408-colin-kaepernick-reportedly-investigated-for-possible-sexual-assault-in-miami

[TopekaRoy]

I'll wait to see the evidence before passing judgment. A lot of these accusations are just from women trying to get money out of rich athletes with an out of court settlement. But I will say that her case doesn't look to good.

She went to an apartment alone with 3 men, got high and drunk and then got into bed. Colin was probably also high and drunk so he lied down next two her. The two of them have a past sexual history, but she says they did NOT have sex.

I will say that her waking up in a hospital bed is odd (alcohol poisoning?) but she doesn't know how she got there. It sounds to me like she was so wasted that one of the guys feared that her life was in danger and took her to the hospital or called an ambulance, but if she doesn't remember what happened, how does she know she was sexually assaulted?

[Frankenchief]

Nobody is passing judgement. Hence the "?!!!" at the end of the title.

[TopekaRoy]

I didn't say you (or anyone else) was passing judgment. I was just speaking for myself.

[Frankenchief]

Gotcha. :smile

[Pro_Angler]

Pos's like this have no business in the NFL.. your a pro football player why put yourself in stupid az situations

[Justin5772002]

Pos's like this have no business in the NFL.. your a pro football player why put yourself in stupid az situations
So he cannot date till his NFL career is over? He didn't end up in a hospital. I'd say he had a good time. From the sounds of it nothing is going to happen.

[jason1981]

He put himself in a bad situation is all. This is where people create their own bad luck.

[Justin5772002]

He put himself in a bad situation is all. This is where people create their own bad luck.
What? Going out with a girl and having a one night stand is a bad decision? Now Bowe and the weed is putting yourself in a bad situation, not going out on a date and sleeping with her. Just because he's a celebrity doesn't mean he cannot have fun. I don't think him getting married to a girl is any better of a decision than having fun and one night stands

[ctchiefsfan]

I'll wait to see the evidence before passing judgment. A lot of these accusations are just from women trying to get money out of rich athletes with an out of court settlement. But I will say that her case doesn't look to good.

She went to an apartment alone with 3 men, got high and drunk and then got into bed. Colin was probably also high and drunk so he lied down next two her. The two of them have a past sexual history, but she says they did NOT have sex.

I will say that her waking up in a hospital bed is odd (alcohol poisoning?) but she doesn't know how she got there. It sounds to me like she was so wasted that one of the guys feared that her life was in danger and took her to the hospital or called an ambulance, but if she doesn't remember what happened, how does she know she was sexually assaulted?

This sounds like a likely explanation. Under the circumstances it seems likely to me that she was checked with a "rape kit" while at the hospital, so regardless of what she does or does not remember there may be physical evidence that she had sex that night. If that is the case there are likely to be legal repercussions. I'm not a lawyer and I don't know Florida law, but I believe that most states treat having sex with a woman who is not capable of saying yes or no (passed out) as the same as having sex with a woman who said no. It's a sad fact of life that any well paid NFL player needs to think about this sort of thing before he goes out with a woman he doesn't know especially well and decides to let her get drunk, stoned etc.....Many woman would consider this nothing more than an opportunity for a quick money-score.

[TopekaRoy]

This sounds like a likely explanation. Under the circumstances it seems likely to me that she was checked with a "rape kit" while at the hospital, so regardless of what she does or does not remember there may be physical evidence that she had sex that night. ...

True, but according to her own statement, "The two did not have sex." so either she was still coherent before he left the bedroom or she knows the results of the rape kit were negative. She says Colin "joined her in the bedroom" and later left, but doesn't say he fondled her or anything. That MUST be what she is accusing him of, right? He's charged with sexual assault, not rape. Unless Florida law considers rape a sexual assault. I'm not sure of that.

Like I said, I want to see more evidence, personally, before I say he's guilty.

BTW, smoking pot is illegal in Florida and I'm pretty sure that the NFL doesn't allow players to smoke it even if they do it in Seattle or Denver. So there's that, too.

[ctchiefsfan]

Roy....I wasn't disagreeing with you. All I have read so far is that there was "an incident report" and that there was an ongoing investigation. You say he is charged with "sexual assault". I haven't read that yet (other than here). All I have read is that she went to lie down, that while she was still conscious she and Kaepernick fooled around and she wound up undressed, that Kaepernick left, then came back then left again. (I'm guessing that when he came back she was unconscious so he said "Oh snap!" and left). I've heard of no charges being filed, only an investigation based on suspicious circumstances as I described. Which (the investigation) I consider entirely warranted. Has he actually been charged with a crime? Or has she simply described events as she remembers them (and as I described) and that report has triggered an investigation to see if charges are warranted? Frankly, I don't see even an "accusation" in what I have read, more to the point a "charge". Have I missed something?

As to the reported marijuana use.....I've become so accustomed to it that I don't even get excited about it any more. With regard to pot all I really ask of players is to be smart enough not to get suspended for pot use and to be smart enough not to get caught with the stuff by police. If they do those two things and play well then I really don't care if they smoke the entire production of Mexico. To me anyway I don't care much more about players using pot than I do if they speed on the highways. I only get upset if they get caught for having used it or having it in their possession.

That is not the law of course....just how I feel on the subject.

[TopekaRoy]

CTCF, it looks like you know more about the case than I do. I hadn't heard that they fooled around and she got naked. That would explain why she got mad when the other two guys peaked in. All I have seen is the report in this link and something on TMZ. I didn't think you were disagreeing with me at all. I was just sharing some of my observations.

I absolutely agree that an investigation is warranted. I just thought with the limited information I had from two days ago it was unlikely to go anywhere. If the evidence does indicate that a crime was committed, especially one as heinous as sexual assault, then Colin should be prosecuted to the maximum extent that the law allows.

It was unfair of me to say he was charged with sexual assault. I should have said "accused of..."

I'm also with you on the whole pot smoking thing. I was just wondering if her mentioning a bong would be considered enough probable cause for the NFL to give them drug tests. I'm not even sure if the NFL CBA would even allow it under these circumstances.

For all I have commented on it, I don't really care much about the case, but I am interested in seeing what happens with it.

[ctchiefsfan]

Clearly Roy, we have no areas of disagreement.

My info is no better than yours. It's only what my Comcast news feeds tell me. I.E. It's borderline MSM and therefore highly suspect.

If this woman had sex forced upon her or somebody used her for sexual purposes while she was unconscious then I can only hope that the investigation or the "hereafter" will make things right.

Equally, I hope with all my heart that no innocent person will be made to pay a financial or jail penalty based on the claims of what might may be nothing more than a gold digger.

I honestly hope than when everything is said and done that true justice will be served.

Oh....and one more thing....

Dear Lord. Colin Kaepernick is a worthless heathen and not fit to lick Alex Smith's jock strap. When they go into battle next season I ask you to give Alex Smith victory over the heathen and to show yet again that "right makes might".

Thank you for heading this sinner's prayer.