I didnt entertain the thought...

[stevefuller]

of trading down until last week when several of you thought we should move back and acquire picks. i just think that at #23 we will have a shot at a handful of excellent football players and if we move back we will definately miss out on most of them...cooks, beckham,shazier,mosley, bridgewater,hageman,fuller,lee, sua filo
however i do love the endless possiblities if we did trade back to jacksonville #39 or ny jets #49 ...all those extra picks in the most talented draft i have even seen...so many positions are 5,6,7 deep its crazy
i am starting to like some of the prospects who we could draft after the fourth round...players like ot matt patchan from boston college i really like this kid...a couple safeties dez southward and jonathan dowling are two safeties i would add to this roster...please check out these guys let me know what you think
i have fallen for larry webster de(listed as a te on some draft sites) 6'6 252 runs a 4.58 40...some think he could be the next antonio gates or michael johnson(de)...aaron lynch olb from south florida is a sleeper
i would like us to draft david yankey(4th) and john urschel (6th) ...urschel is from penn state and i believe he will be a starter for years in the nfl

[NWO]

Please just once, just one freaking time can I be excited about a player we draft. Just please no more o or d line draft picks. We have wasted pick after pick on the offensive line and it's very possible they could be a mess this year.

[brdempsey69]

Please just once, just one freaking time can I be excited about a player we draft. Just please no more o or d line draft picks. We have wasted pick after pick on the offensive line and it's very possible they could be a mess this year.

You've got to kidding. If the Chiefs hadn't drafted Hudson, Allen, Stephenson, Fisher, and Kush recently, then what would they have now for an O-Line? O-Line picks are only considered "wasted picks" by fantasy football kiddies. Guess what? Andy Reid started his coaching career as an O-Line coach and he understands their value and that Offensive success starts up front.

Also do consider that from 2000 -- 2009, the Chiefs took only one (1) O-Lineman in the top 3 rounds of the draft and how did that work out? After Roaf and Shields retired, from 2007 -- 2012, the Chiefs had the worst record of any team in the AFC and the biggest problem was the O-Line degenerating into nothing.

And speaking of the so-called "exciting picks", I personally find the so-called "exciting pick" that was made with #5 overall pick in 2010, to be about as exciting as a turd floating around in a public swimming pool.

[NWO]

You've got to kidding. If the Chiefs hadn't drafted Hudson, Allen, Stephenson, Fisher, and Kush recently, then what would they have now for an O-Line? O-Line picks are only considered "wasted picks" by fantasy football kiddies. Guess what? Andy Reid started his coaching career as an O-Line coach and he understands their value and that Offensive success starts up front.

Also do consider that from 2000 -- 2009, the Chiefs took only one (1) O-Lineman in the top 3 rounds of the draft and how did that work out? After Roaf and Shields retired, from 2007 -- 2012, the Chiefs had the worst record of any team in the AFC and the biggest problem was the O-Line degenerating into nothing.

And speaking of the so-called "exciting picks", I personally find the so-called "exciting pick" that was made with #5 overall pick in 2010, to be about as exciting as a turd floating around in a public swimming pool.


Perhaps a better pass blocking line. Most (if not all) of those players you listed are unproven and we have absolutely no idea how they will perform. There has been a lot of discussion about drafting an offensive lineman in the first round (yet again) and that talk should worry us. We have spent 5 picks on offensive lineman in the first 3 rounds since the 2010 draft and our line still is questionable.

[brdempsey69]

Perhaps a better pass blocking line. Most (if not all) of those players you listed are unproven and we have absolutely no idea how they will perform. There has been a lot of discussion about drafting an offensive lineman in the first round (yet again) and that talk should worry us. We have spent 5 picks on offensive lineman in the first 3 rounds since the 2010 draft and our line still is questionable.

A better pass-blocking line? Is that what they had when Pioli brought in guys like O'Callaghan, Weigmann, Lilja, and Winston? Not by a longshot. All those guys were proven -- proven duds, that is.

At least what they have now is a young developing O-Line with 4 of those 5 guys showing improvement over the 2nd half of the season, and the 5th one showing promise in his first ever start in week 17.

Better get used to the idea of O-Lineman being drafted early and often as long as Dorsey and Reid are around because it is a given. They know that Offensive success starts up front.

[ctchiefsfan]

brdempsey's case is exactly why I'm inclined to see us trade down for some extra picks.....We can add a lineman or two and still have some picks for positions that make highlight reels.

[chief31]

Please just once, just one freaking time can I be excited about a player we draft. Just please no more o or d line draft picks.

Yeah..... I am with BrDempsey on this one. But I am also, admittedly, an o-line kinda guy.

For my money, give me great talent on the lines, and I will make superstars of the guys behind them. That system does not really work so well in reverse.


We have wasted pick after pick on the offensive line and it's very possible they could be a mess this year.

So then, the plan would be to leave the o-line in shambles and allow offensive injuries to dictate our season?

Again, I am with Dempsey. This sounds very much like a fantasy football angle. And this particular fantasy team is going to get destroyed if you can't protect them.

But hey.... Nothing wrong with fantasy football. I play plenty myself.

Good to have you with us.

And don't be too intimidated by Brdempsey. You will find that he is, at times, as FOS as any of the rest of us.

Just be careful pointing it out to him. :sterb184:

:lol:

[Eydugstr]

For my money, give me great talent on the lines, and I will make superstars of the guys behind them. That system does not really work so well in reverse.

Spot on. How many injured QB's and RB's did it take from the start of Herm Edwards tenure to the end of the Pioli fiasco before we figured that one out.

[brdempsey69]

For my money, give me great talent on the lines, and I will make superstars of the guys behind them. That system does not really work so well in reverse.

So then, the plan would be to leave the o-line in shambles and allow offensive injuries to dictate our season?



That's right. You build from front to back and not the other way around like Pioli did with his 2010 draft farce. The NFL draft isn't about fantasy football.

[ctchiefsfan]

Yup. A good solid O-line makes even a mediocre offense look great and a solid D-line stuffs the run and takes a lot of heat off your secondary.

Conversely a crappy O-line will make the best weapons look blunt and lame and a weak D-line exposes every weakness your secondary has.

I love the "flash" players like JC and good WRs, but they are going to look pretty lame without a line.

[brdempsey69]

Yup. A good solid O-line makes even a mediocre offense look great and a solid D-line stuffs the run and takes a lot of heat off your secondary.

Conversely a crappy O-line will make the best weapons look blunt and lame and a weak D-line exposes every weakness your secondary has.

I love the "flash" players like JC and good WRs, but they are going to look pretty lame without a line.

In this upcoming draft, I'm not suggesting that the Chiefs go O-Line with their top draft pick. I don't think they will, unless the top 5 WR's are off the board and they feel UCLA Guard Xavier Su'a-Filo is the best player who is the best fit for the Chiefs ( he's an excellent Guard prospect who played some LT and he fits what Andy Reid looks for in O-Lineman ). With their interest in the WR Sanders in FA, it could be that they are leaning towards WR with the top draft pick and perhaps looking at an O-Lineman later on in the draft.

By the same token, I've been hearing for years every time the draft rolls around, the same song being sung by the herd of sheep wearing diapers that are threatening to crap in their diapers, if the Chiefs go O-Line with their top draft pick, and this line of thinking is flat out retarded. Especially give what happened from 2007 -- 2012 due to the degeneration of their O-Line and for those that don't like the thought of drafting O-Lineman early, then they can go join their twin sheep sister Pioli in Atlanta.

[jason1981]

I think the better question is do we go oline pr dline with the 1st pick? I would like that de tuiit guy. With manning and rivers in our division I wod go with tuit to generate more pash rush. With him I think we would have the best front 7.

[brdempsey69]

I think the better question is do we go oline pr dline with the 1st pick? I would like that de tuiit guy. With manning and rivers in our division I wod go with tuit to generate more pash rush. With him I think we would have the best front 7.

I like Tuitt as well and don't believe that there's a Defensive player in this draft that fits the Chiefs Defense better than he does. If Dorsey is able to pull a trade-down & get an extra pick or two, and still land Tuitt, it would be a great move. Right now it's been said that many are projecting Tuitt as an early 2nd rounder, but who knows? Draft day will tell.

[Pro_Angler]

If receivers are a dime a dozen why don't we have one good one??? Draft a writer 1st rd

[ctchiefsfan]

If receivers are a dime a dozen why don't we have one good one??? Draft a writer 1st rd

Foolish. Very deep draft this year. Trade down, get a couple of extra picks and STILL get a burner in the 2cond round.

[jason1981]

If receivers are a dime a dozen why don't we have one good one??? Draft a writer 1st rd

Average wr are dime a dozen. If we go 1st rn wr then he should be an elite one. Im not againast taking wr. I kinda like cook myself. I say we take wr cook or de tuitt. I would love to trade back into 2nd and get db jimmy ward as well.

[Eydugstr]

Draft a writer 1st rd

Draft a writer? Well, I suppose if we could draft Stephen King we could scare those opposing D's into backing off...

[chief31]

That's right. You build from front to back and not the other way around like Pioli did with his 2010 draft farce. The NFL draft isn't about fantasy football.


Well, at least Pioli drafted o-line eventually. Which was a huge relief, following Herm's tenure. :lol:

[brdempsey69]

Well, at least Pioli drafted o-line eventually. Which was a huge relief, following Herm's tenure. :lol:

He did, but he waited too long. This current regime started right off with O-Line -- wisely, I might add -- and they'll keep stocking that area. I don't believe they will take an O-Lineman in round 1 this year, if there's a playmaker like Brandin Cooks still on the board at #23. I believe they want a WR that can get down the field & force Defenses to play honest.

[Eydugstr]

Well, at least Pioli drafted o-line eventually. Which was a huge relief, following Herm's tenure. :lol:

True. But the light bulb should've kicked on after he invested 60 mil in Matt Cassel !! Guess those wiretaps got in the way of that one, too.

[ctchiefsfan]

Most of the guys here on chiefscrowd.com would have done a better job as GM than Pissoli.

[brdempsey69]

And now Pioli is contaminating Atlanta's front office. They need a Tackle like Lewan or Matthews with that #6 overall pick to help protect Matt Ryan. Just watch, though, under Pioli's influence they will pass on a Tackle and Matt Ryan will suffer for it.

[Mongo]

And now Pioli is contaminating Atlanta's front office. They need a Tackle like Lewan or Matthews with that #6 overall pick to help protect Matt Ryan. Just watch, though, under Pioli's influence they will pass on a Tackle and Matt Ryan will suffer for it.
They paid last year for a bad OL. They also paid for a poor defense. I think they get a pass if they make a move for Clowney or Mack. Otherwise I agree -- they'd be stupid to pass on an OT. Sam Baker is a bust.