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hermhater
10-26-2007, 02:07 AM
Top Five Disappointments So Far for the Kansas City Chiefs
By Chris (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/user/Chris) Section: Campaign 2007 (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/section/campaign_2007)
Posted on October 25th, 2007


I'm foregoing the preview of the other AFC West games this weekend to steal an idea from Adam Teicher's video blog. Without further ado...
#5 Justin Medlock
Ah, yes. Justin Medlock. Everyone's favorite California kicker. Right now, Justin Medlock is chilling in Cali according to his Facebook profile. But, just a few months ago, Medlock was potentially the Chiefs kicker for an indefinite period of time. The job was his to lose. And boy did he lose it. We drafted him with a high draft pick for a kicker and now we can add him to the long list of KC busts in the draft. Normally, if you do take a kicker in the draft, you draft him and forget about looking for anyone else. I'm not missing Medlock at all.
The blow of losing Medlock turned out to be not really painful at all with the addition of Dave Rayner. Even though Rayner has missed a couple of kicks, he is head and shoulders above the moronic Medlock.
#4 Eddie Drummond
Yes, I know we were spoiled with Dante Hall all of those years. But that doesn't mean that Eddie Drummond isn't horrible. Like Michael Bennett, Drummond is still living off of one Pro Bowl season, which he had in 2004 with the Lions. Drummond ranks 66th this year in average yards per kick return but thats ranking him with anyone who has taken at least one kick return. Even when you rank Drummond with kick returners who have at least fifteen returns, his return yard average is still second worst (out of twenty kick returners).
This offense needs a short field to work with and I, like many people, expected Drummond to be at least adequate. Alas, he isn't and fans are looking to the waiver wire to snag someone, anyone else.
#3 Brodie Croyle
This isn't number one but it may hurt the most. Brodie Croyle was expected to beat our Damon Huard for the starting quarterback position throughout the off season. Trent Green wanted out of Kansas City partly because he thought the quarterback situation unfairly tilted towards Croyle. But, Brodie could not put together enough good series and games to surpass the veteran QB on the depth chart.
Is he the quarterback of the future? Can Brodie Croyle start in the NFL? I was hoping to get these questions at least partially answered by now but because of Croyle's disappointing preseason, we'll have to wait.
#2 Larry Johnson
Every Chiefs fan had major expectations for Larry Johnson. Gaining over 4000 yards rushing in the last 28 games played will do that. Through seven games, LJ is on pace for right around a respectable 1200 yards rushing this season. For many though, this season is already a disappointment no matter what for Larry Johnson.
#1 The Offensive Line
Each year after 2003, I thought to myself, "This next year may be it for our great offensive line." Well, we held on through 2006 and hit a wall in 2007. To go from having one of the greatest offensive lines of all-time to what we have now is truly disappointing.



http://www.arrowheadpride.com/story/2007/10/25/1602/8155

greg3564
10-26-2007, 09:49 AM
Top Five Disappointments So Far for the Kansas City Chiefs
By Chris (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/user/Chris) Section: Campaign 2007 (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/section/campaign_2007)
Posted on October 25th, 2007


I'm foregoing the preview of the other AFC West games this weekend to steal an idea from Adam Teicher's video blog. Without further ado...
#5 Justin Medlock
Ah, yes. Justin Medlock. Everyone's favorite California kicker. Right now, Justin Medlock is chilling in Cali according to his Facebook profile. But, just a few months ago, Medlock was potentially the Chiefs kicker for an indefinite period of time. The job was his to lose. And boy did he lose it. We drafted him with a high draft pick for a kicker and now we can add him to the long list of KC busts in the draft. Normally, if you do take a kicker in the draft, you draft him and forget about looking for anyone else. I'm not missing Medlock at all.
The blow of losing Medlock turned out to be not really painful at all with the addition of Dave Rayner. Even though Rayner has missed a couple of kicks, he is head and shoulders above the moronic Medlock.

Yeah, what a gigantic waste of a draft pick he was. No big loss.


#4 Eddie Drummond
Yes, I know we were spoiled with Dante Hall all of those years. But that doesn't mean that Eddie Drummond isn't horrible. Like Michael Bennett, Drummond is still living off of one Pro Bowl season, which he had in 2004 with the Lions. Drummond ranks 66th this year in average yards per kick return but thats ranking him with anyone who has taken at least one kick return. Even when you rank Drummond with kick returners who have at least fifteen returns, his return yard average is still second worst (out of twenty kick returners).
This offense needs a short field to work with and I, like many people, expected Drummond to be at least adequate. Alas, he isn't and fans are looking to the waiver wire to snag someone, anyone else.

Nuff said. He needs to be replaced ASAP to salvage special teams and give us a chance to move the ball.

#3 Brodie Croyle
This isn't number one but it may hurt the most. Brodie Croyle was expected to beat our Damon Huard for the starting quarterback position throughout the off season. Trent Green wanted out of Kansas City partly because he thought the quarterback situation unfairly tilted towards Croyle. But, Brodie could not put together enough good series and games to surpass the veteran QB on the depth chart.
Is he the quarterback of the future? Can Brodie Croyle start in the NFL? I was hoping to get these questions at least partially answered by now but because of Croyle's disappointing preseason, we'll have to wait.

I think we'll see him starting sooner than some think. CP and Herm have said repeatedly and adamantly that he will start this season. Some here have suggested next week. A home game against GB wouldn't be a bad choice and will really put his skills to the test. Start him the first half and if he starts blowing it, then bring Huard in the second. Personally, I think once they do start him they will stick with him unless he's injured in order to avoid any QB controversy. But we'll have to see.

#2 Larry Johnson
Every Chiefs fan had major expectations for Larry Johnson. Gaining over 4000 yards rushing in the last 28 games played will do that. Through seven games, LJ is on pace for right around a respectable 1200 yards rushing this season. For many though, this season is already a disappointment no matter what for Larry Johnson.

I never understood the whole LJ "wears diapers" comment by Vermeil when that happened. Now I do. He's a big baby and if he continues to infect the locker room CP will send him somewhere else. The Chiefs don't tolerate that. We're not the Raiders.

#1 The Offensive Line
Each year after 2003, I thought to myself, "This next year may be it for our great offensive line." Well, we held on through 2006 and hit a wall in 2007. To go from having one of the greatest offensive lines of all-time to what we have now is truly disappointing.

Makes you really realize what an impact Roaf and Shields had on the line now that they're gone. I think this is an area they should have spent more time getting free agents in the off season. Then they brought back Turley, who is consistently hurt and doesn't play half the games. That's a head scratcher.


http://www.arrowheadpride.com/story/2007/10/25/1602/8155

This team needs to be energized. That's just another good reason to bring in Croyle. Bring the kid in and if he starts doing well the team will rally around him. Right now there seems to be a lot of discontent on the offensive side. LJ is not helping that at all.

anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 09:56 AM
#5 Medlock- i agree what a wasted draft pick taht could of been used on a o-linemen

#4 DRUMMOND- his special teams are really helping him out, so i wouldnt place the blame solely on eddie.

#3 Croyle-put him in already this is what you drafted him for! jeez, you would want to put him in at some point of this season....

#2 LJ- disappointment because of #1 IMO.

#1 The O-LINE- with departures of big will shields and big willie roaf, you cant exactly replace them with offseason acquiries and draft picks... and also the departure of t-rich... thats 3 big missing pieces of our once-so full of probowlers line.

sling58
10-26-2007, 10:20 AM
#5 Medlock- i agree what a wasted draft pick taht could of been used on a o-linemen

#4 DRUMMOND- his special teams are really helping him out, so i wouldnt place the blame solely on eddie.

#3 Croyle-put him in already this is what you drafted him for! jeez, you would want to put him in at some point of this season....

#2 LJ- disappointment because of #1 IMO.

#1 The O-LINE- with departures of big will shields and big willie roaf, you cant exactly replace them with offseason acquiries and draft picks... and also the departure of t-rich... thats 3 big missing pieces of our once-so full of probowlers line.

I bet he starts this week. 31, I smell bet?

Canada
10-26-2007, 10:20 AM
I bet he starts this week. 31, I smell bet?

I will bet you my house that he dosen't....we are on a bye this week!! :lol:

anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 10:22 AM
I will bet you my house that he dosen't....we are on a bye this week!! :lol:

and with that you just won all of sling'z arrowcash! PAY UP SLING!

sling58
10-26-2007, 10:22 AM
I will bet you my house that he dosen't....we are on a bye this week!! :lol:

OK the game against GB then, you know that's what I meant!

:lol: :lol:

Coach
10-26-2007, 10:30 AM
I think that list is right on the money. No comment needed fro Medlock, drummond, or the o-line.

Croyle had his chance and absolutely blew it. What makes everyone think that he will be so much better against starting defenses?

LJ is sucking in part because of the O-line. However, his attitude and tendency to quit on plays drives me friggin nuts.

sling58
10-26-2007, 10:32 AM
I think that list is right on the money. No comment needed fro Medlock, drummond, or the o-line.

Croyle had his chance and absolutely blew it. What makes everyone think that he will be so much better against starting defenses?

LJ is sucking in part because of the O-line. However, his attitude and tendency to quit on plays drives me friggin nuts.

I bet that changes a little now that Priest is right behind him now. Well I hope it does.

chief31
10-26-2007, 10:50 AM
Top Five Disappointments So Far for the Kansas City Chiefs
By Chris (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/user/Chris) Section: Campaign 2007 (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/section/campaign_2007)
Posted on October 25th, 2007


I'm foregoing the preview of the other AFC West games this weekend to steal an idea from Adam Teicher's video blog. Without further ado...
#5 Justin Medlock
#4 Eddie Drummond
#3 Brodie Croyle
#2 Larry Johnson
#1 The Offensive Line



http://www.arrowheadpride.com/story/2007/10/25/1602/8155

Medlock was drafted too high and became a waste of a higher pick than we should have wasted on him to begin with.

Drummond may have won the returner job based on the fact that he was a college roommate of Larry Johnson. Bad idea.

I would put Croyle in the "pleasant surprise" catergory. He is getting some irreplacable experience, by staying on the sidelines.

L.J. is no dissapointment to me. He is what he was last year, and the year before that. If he feels that he has a chance of getting some good yardage, then he put fourth a top-flight effort. If he is asked to do something that he doesn't like to do, then he is a scrub.

The offensive line has not been a dissapointment to me either. Roaf and Shields left, and we replaced them with a Dolphins Tackle and, basically, Turley/Terry. We have no depth, because we have ignored it in the drafty for the past two years, and we cut the little bit of depth that we had. They are what I expected them to be, just like L.J.

How about the top-five surprises of the season...

5. DEFENSE!!! I did expect a much improved defense this year. But they have definitely been exceeding my expectations, so far. Jared Allen has been the same beast that he has been for years, but now it is more evident, because his sack total is up.

4. Damon Huard. I think that he has exceeded my expectations, because I did not expect much from him. The fact that he is keeping Croyle on the bench is a good thing, in more ways than one. He is far from performing as well as last season, but still doing a good job, especially considering the elements that he has been dealing with.

3. Tony Gonzales. It should come as no surprise, as I know what he is capable of. But after getting neglected, to some degree, for the past couple of seasons, it is great to see his re-emergance this season.

2. Dwayne Bowe. Wow. This guy is awefully good. Can't wait to see what he does the rest of this year, then the next, then the next, then the next....

1. Priest!!!!! Not that he has done alot on the field, but is anything more of a pleasant surprise than the return of the Priest? Not for me.

Canada
10-26-2007, 10:54 AM
Post of the month...but I think a special mention should be made for Derrick Johnson as well. He seems like he is learning and progressing and well on his way to being our defensive leader for years to come. Donnie and Napoleon Harris aren't going to bo around for ever!!

Coach
10-26-2007, 10:54 AM
How about the top-five surprises of the season...

5. DEFENSE!!! I did expect a much improved defense this year. But they have definitely been exceeding my expectations, so far. Jared Allen has been the same beast that he has been for years, but now it is more evident, because his sack total is up.

4. Damon Huard. I think that he has exceeded my expectations, because I did not expect much from him. The fact that he is keeping Croyle on the bench is a good thing, in more ways than one. He is far from performing as well as last season, but still doing a good job, especially considering the elements that he has been dealing with.

3. Tony Gonzales. It should come as no surprise, as I know what he is capable of. But after getting neglected, to some degree, for the past couple of seasons, it is great to see his re-emergance this season.

2. Dwayne Bowe. Wow. This guy is awefully good. Can't wait to see what he does the rest of this year, then the next, then the next, then the next....

1. Priest!!!!! Not that he has done alot on the field, but is anything more of a pleasant surprise than the return of the Priest? Not for me.

Amen on all 5.

Canada
10-26-2007, 10:55 AM
Someone please put Chief31 post up for post of the Month (although contest rules state no member may win back to back t-shirts unless it is Canada)

chief31
10-26-2007, 10:57 AM
Just copy/paste it in here...

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1825

What???? I'm just trying to help-out a fellow member. :D

Canada
10-26-2007, 11:00 AM
Just copy/paste it in here...

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1825

What???? I'm just trying to help-out a fellow member. :D

Laugh at me if you all have to...but what is copy/paste??

sling58
10-26-2007, 11:02 AM
Medlock was drafted too high and became a waste of a higher pick than we should have wasted on him to begin with.

Drummond may have won the returner job based on the fact that he was a college roommate of Larry Johnson. Bad idea.

I would put Croyle in the "pleasant surprise" catergory. He is getting some irreplacable experience, by staying on the sidelines.

L.J. is no dissapointment to me. He is what he was last year, and the year before that. If he feels that he has a chance of getting some good yardage, then he put fourth a top-flight effort. If he is asked to do something that he doesn't like to do, then he is a scrub.

The offensive line has not been a dissapointment to me either. Roaf and Shields left, and we replaced them with a Dolphins Tackle and, basically, Turley/Terry. We have no depth, because we have ignored it in the drafty for the past two years, and we cut the little bit of depth that we had. They are what I expected them to be, just like L.J.

How about the top-five surprises of the season...

5. DEFENSE!!! I did expect a much improved defense this year. But they have definitely been exceeding my expectations, so far. Jared Allen has been the same beast that he has been for years, but now it is more evident, because his sack total is up.

4. Damon Huard. I think that he has exceeded my expectations, because I did not expect much from him. The fact that he is keeping Croyle on the bench is a good thing, in more ways than one. He is far from performing as well as last season, but still doing a good job, especially considering the elements that he has been dealing with.

3. Tony Gonzales. It should come as no surprise, as I know what he is capable of. But after getting neglected, to some degree, for the past couple of seasons, it is great to see his re-emergance this season.

2. Dwayne Bowe. Wow. This guy is awefully good. Can't wait to see what he does the rest of this year, then the next, then the next, then the next....

1. Priest!!!!! Not that he has done alot on the field, but is anything more of a pleasant surprise than the return of the Priest? Not for me.


Post of the month...but I think a special mention should be made for Derrick Johnson as well. He seems like he is learning and progressing and well on his way to being our defensive leader for years to come. Donnie and Napoleon Harris aren't going to bo around for ever!!

Agreed on both fronts.

Coach
10-26-2007, 11:04 AM
Laugh at me if you all have to...but what is copy/paste??

:lol: :yahoo: :funnypost:

chief31
10-26-2007, 11:06 AM
Laugh at me if you all have to...but what is copy/paste??
If you click/hold/drag over desired text, then it will become highlighted. Then if you right-click on the highlighted text, a small 'bar' will appear. Select 'copy' from that bar, and all of the highlighted text will be saved for later use.

Then, just start a new post within the "Post of the month" thread and right-click in the area where you would normally type your post submition. Another 'bar' will appear. Then just select 'paste'. the text should now be in your post.

You are supposed to copy/paste the actual post, that you want to submit, as well as the URL. The URL is the address, located in the address section of your toolbar.

Canada
10-26-2007, 11:09 AM
Ok...just a couple of things...click hold drag....highlited text....URL....I will ask my wife when she gets home!!

sling58
10-26-2007, 11:11 AM
Ok...just a couple of things...click hold drag....highlited text....URL....I will ask my wife when she gets home!!

:funnypost: :sign0098: :lol:

wolfpack
10-26-2007, 11:24 AM
1) lapdog solari
2) o-line
3) special teams
4) hermmie///peterson (tie)
5) haurd (his constint swing passes),solari (tie)

sling58
10-26-2007, 11:25 AM
1) lapdog solari
2) o-line
3) special teams
4) hermmie///peterson (tie)
5) haurd (his constint swing passes),solari (tie)

did you mean to have solari on here twice? or did you mena to do that?

wolfpack
10-26-2007, 11:28 AM
his play calling is so bad i thought about putting him on all five slots.

Canada
10-26-2007, 11:28 AM
his play calling is so bad i thought about putting him on all five slots.

:lol::bananen_smilies046:

anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 12:31 PM
2. Dwayne Bowe. Wow. This guy is awefully good. Can't wait to see what he does the rest of this year, then the next, then the next, then the next....

he's only just begun. man what were to happen if he put it into full gear.... he'd blow randy moss out of the water. thats how good i think he is and will become.

sling58
10-26-2007, 12:34 PM
2. Dwayne Bowe. Wow. This guy is awefully good. Can't wait to see what he does the rest of this year, then the next, then the next, then the next....

he's only just begun. man what were to happen if he put it into full gear.... he'd blow randy moss out of the water. thats how good i think he is and will become.

I surely hope so.

Canada
10-26-2007, 12:36 PM
I have blessed him...it will be so!! :bananen_smilies046:<---holy water!!

sling58
10-26-2007, 12:37 PM
I have blessed him...it will be so!! :bananen_smilies046:<---holy water!!

Father Canada?

anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 12:39 PM
ah yes, i feel the power... thanks canada!

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/17.jpg

Canada
10-26-2007, 12:42 PM
Father Canada?

That is right my son...I preach the Chiefs all over the Northern lands blessing all with my holy water!! :bananen_smilies046:

sling58
10-26-2007, 12:43 PM
That is right my son...I preach the Chiefs all over the Northern lands blessing all with my holy water!! :bananen_smilies046:

When you say Holy Water you mean Budweiser right?

Canada
10-26-2007, 12:44 PM
When you say Holy Water you mean Budweiser right?

There is another kind of holy water??

anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 12:46 PM
When you say Holy Water you mean Budweiser right?

is there anything else? :lol:

tornadospotter
10-27-2007, 12:53 AM
I think that list is right on the money. No comment needed fro Medlock, drummond, or the o-line.

Croyle had his chance and absolutely blew it. What makes everyone think that he will be so much better against starting defenses?

LJ is sucking in part because of the O-line. However, his attitude and tendency to quit on plays drives me friggin nuts.
LJ needs a pay cut due to lack of effort! For one that has studied all the great running backs, He has forgotten what he is, He needs to get that chip back and play angry! imo

I bet that changes a little now that Priest is right behind him now. Well I hope it does.
Solair needs to open up the Offense with spread set and utilize Priest as a passing threat, with Lj in for the quick hits and draws. May be we should use a little run or shoot Offense here. But Herm would never go for that.

hermhater
10-27-2007, 01:05 AM
LJ needs a pay cut due to lack of effort! For one that has studied all the great running backs, He has forgotten what he is, He needs to get that chip back and play angry! imo

Solair needs to open up the Offense with spread set and utilize Priest as a passing threat, with Lj in for the quick hits and draws. May be we should use a little run or shoot Offense here. But Herm would never go for that.

HERM either doesn't believe that we have the talent to do that, or doesn't know what a spread offense is and can't teach it to the Offense. Even though they are all pretty much vets except DBo.

:mob:

Chiefster
10-27-2007, 02:27 AM
#2 Larry Johnson
Every Chiefs fan had major expectations for Larry Johnson. Gaining over 4000 yards rushing in the last 28 games played will do that. Through seven games, LJ is on pace for right around a respectable 1200 yards rushing this season. For many though, this season is already a disappointment no matter what for Larry Johnson.

This for me is number one.

Canada
10-29-2007, 10:18 AM
Yup...LJ isn't winning games for us...let's put in Kolby Smith!!

sling58
10-29-2007, 10:39 AM
Yup...LJ isn't winning games for us...let's put in Kolby Smith!!

Maybe a few splinters in the back side will make LJ want to paly again. It's worth a try.

Canada
10-29-2007, 10:40 AM
Maybe a few splinters in the back side will make LJ want to paly again. It's worth a try.

It seems to be the answer with the QB position, why not RB??

hermhater
10-29-2007, 05:50 PM
Yup...LJ isn't winning games for us...let's put in Kolby Smith!!

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/360.jpg


It seems to be the answer with the QB position, why not RB??

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/361.jpg


Heh!

:lol: :D