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anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 04:24 PM
Maine School to Offer Contraceptives

By JERRY HARKAVY Oct 18, 2007
PORTLAND, Maine (AP) School officials on Thursday defended a decision to allow children as young as 11 to obtain birth-control pills at a middle-school health center, saying the new policy is aimed at a tiny number of sexually active students.
King Middle School will become the first middle school in Maine, and apparently one of only a few in the nation, to make a full range of contraception available, including birth-control pills and patches.
Students would need parental permission to use the city-run health center in the school, but they wouldn't have to tell them they were seeking birth control.
"People I associate with are looking at me like, are you guys crazy? Is this really going to happen in Portland?" said school committee Chairman John Coyne, who opposed the new policy in the 7-2 vote by the Portland School Committee on Wednesday night.
There are no national figures on how many middle schools provide such services. Most middle schoolers range in age from 11 to 13.
"It's very rare that middle schools do this," said Divya Mohan, a spokeswoman for the National Assembly on School-Based Health Care.
This week, the health center asked the committee to make birth-control pills available to high school-aged students who were still in middle school and unable to access the contraception available at the high school, said Portland School Committee member Robert O'Brien.
School officials said five of the school's 510 students would have qualified for the birth control under the program last year.
O'Brien, whose district includes King Middle School, said the notion that young children can now easily get birth-control pills is flat wrong.
"They don't just have a giant punch bowl full of pills," he said,
The birth control will be given out only after extensive counseling, and no prepubescent children will get it, O'Brien said.
But Coyne said a physically mature, savvy 11-year-old could get the birth control once the permission slip to use the center is signed.
"I think she could navigate the system," he said.
Portland's three middle schools had seven pregnancies in the last five years, said Douglas Gardner, director of Portland's Health and Human Services Department. He said early reports of 17 pregnancies during the last four years were erroneous.
The King Middle School is among Portland's most diverse schools, with 31 languages spoken there and 28 percent of its students foreign-born. The school, located on the same peninsula as downtown Portland, draws from the islands in Casco Bay, wealthier neighborhoods overlooking the bay, and low-income triple deckers.
Fifty-four percent of the students are part of the federal free lunch program, which is an indicator of poverty.
Principal Michael McCarthy said the school had just one pregnancy last year, but students were reporting they were sexually active. The center has dispensed condoms since 2000, but because it could not prescribe birth-control pills, nurses referred the students to Planned Parenthood or Maine Medical Center.
"When they followed up, they found that in many cases, the kids weren't doing that," McCarthy said.
The policy raises new legal concerns.
Sex with a nonspousal minor under 14 is considered gross sexual assault in Maine, and officials said it was unclear whether nurses at the health center would be required to report such activities.
"If we're required to report anything that we think is illegal, we certainly will do that," said Gardner, who said health centers already comply with state law and report cases in which child abuse or sex abuse are suspected.
Gov. John Baldacci said he had reservations about the program and was trying to learn more.
"I appreciate local officials trying to address a need in a medically appropriate way, but these are children," he said in an interview with the AP. "An appropriate balance must be struck addressing the troubling situation that a small number of students find themselves in and recognizing the important role that parents and other family should play."
McCarthy, the principal, said he sympathizes with those who have reservations about the program.
"I think it makes people nervous to think middle school students are having sex. Frankly, it makes me nervous. But there's a small population out there that needs protection," he said.
Carol Schiller, the mother of a boy and girl who graduated from King, said she was "elated" at the committee's vote. She said critics shocked that 11-year-olds have sex should "get over it."
"It's much more important that we reach out to these kids and get them the tools they need to stay safe, stay in school and get an education," she said.
Michael Heath, executive director of the Christian Civic League of Maine, said he was concerned that young children would have access to any form of birth control, with adults playing a supportive role.
"It's at best troubling, at worst an outrage," he said.
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Associated Press Writer Jay Lindsay contributed to this report from Boston.
(This version CORRECTS that Portland's three middle schools reported seven pregnancies, not 17.)

anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 04:27 PM
this being sad because just several years ago when i was in middle school the farthest thing on my mind was birth control and safe sex. geez, i was so excited on holding hands even kissing.

sling58
10-26-2007, 04:27 PM
Canada needs one.

royalswin100games
10-26-2007, 04:30 PM
this being sad because just several years ago when i was in middle school the farthest thing on my mind was birth control and safe sex. geez, i was so excited on holding hands even kissing.

This is scary to me. I have a four-year-old daughter that already is trying to be as independent as she possibly can and a five-month-old daughter. I guess I have to educate them both as best I can because they're going to do what they want to do regardless of what I do.

I do think it's good that they are trying to educate and prevent pre-teen and teenage pregnancy.

hermhater
10-26-2007, 04:33 PM
this being sad because just several years ago when i was in middle school the farthest thing on my mind was birth control and safe sex. geez, i was so excited on holding hands even kissing.

Pervasive pornography has cheapened the act of intercourse.

Being so easily available to people of all ages, has changed society people.

There is no going back now.

The world has changed and all of your daughters will wind up on the pole!

j/k about the last part!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :beer:

royalswin100games
10-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Pervasive pornography has cheapened the act of intercourse.

Being so easily available to people of all ages, has changed society people.

There is no going back now.

The world has changed and all of your daughters will wind up on the pole!

j/k about the last part!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :beer:

Now that's even scarier...

anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 04:45 PM
Now that's even scarier...

agreed. when i heard about this, i recalled my sister who is in 9th grade, told me a friend of hers who is in 8th grade was pregnant. and girls gossip, she told me that a lot of the girls in her grade and the grade lower were sexually active. it really opened my eyes and had me worried and concerned....

hermhater
10-26-2007, 04:46 PM
Now that's even scarier...

When you ask for a bed time story, don't always expect a happy ending!

:beer: :D :lol:

Chiefster
10-26-2007, 08:31 PM
Students would need parental permission to use the city-run health center in the school, but they wouldn't have to tell them they were seeking birth control.

I personally got a problem with this, I never think it's a good thing to encourage adolescent and pre-adolescents to to be anything less then forthcoming with their parents.

hermhater
10-26-2007, 08:38 PM
I personally got a problem with this, I never think it's a good thing to encourage adolescent and pre-adolescents to to be anything less then forthcoming with their parents.

The youngsters are running things nowadays!

We may think we are in charge, but technology has made them very powerful with the Force!

anaeelbackwards
10-26-2007, 08:43 PM
I personally got a problem with this, I never think it's a good thing to encourage adolescent and pre-adolescents to to be anything less then forthcoming with their parents.

i agree. i was shocked and appalled at that. it seems nowadays kids are getting learning these things and experimenting at a younger age. why should kids be even worrying about those kind of things at such a young age?

tornadospotter
10-26-2007, 10:13 PM
I have 3 daughters, 1 is thru with school, and college and got married a year ago July. We have a grandson that was born Sept 12 at 12:10 am, he did not want to be born on the 11, because he made his moma go thru labor for 24 hrs. My second daughter is a junior in high school, My third daughter is a 5th grader and yes I am surrounded by females, thank god I have a Son inlaw now and a grandson ( my dog is a female, my daughters cat is a female, and I swear that dang fish my younges has is female). So I am getting knowledgeable on these issues. I found that the:sterb003: :prison: , work well with the oldest and my son inlaw. Now I have them and there friends ( self appointed big brothers) now know as the family gang :mob: , for the middle daughter.

tornadospotter
10-26-2007, 10:17 PM
2 rules for dating my daughters are, 1 you have to come in and meet me, 2 you must provide a picture. The picture gets taped to a shot gun shell and place on display while date is there. :D

hermhater
10-26-2007, 10:18 PM
I have 3 daughters, 1 is thru with school, and college and got married a year ago July. We have a grandson that was born Sept 12 at 12:10 am, he did not want to be born on the 11, because he made his moma go thru labor for 24 hrs. My second daughter is a junior in high school, My third daughter is a 5th grader and yes I am surrounded by females, thank god I have a Son inlaw now and a grandson ( my dog is a female, my daughters cat is a female, and I swear that dang fish my younges has is female). So I am getting knowledgeable on these issues. I found that the:sterb003: :prison: , work well with the oldest and my son inlaw. Now I have them and there friends ( self appointed big brothers) now know as the family gang :mob: , for the middle daughter.


Dude I feel you and all, but were you on acid for the last part of that statement?

:sign0153: :toast2:

hermhater
10-26-2007, 10:19 PM
2 rules for dating my daughters are, 1 you have to come in and meet me, 2 you must provide a picture. The picture gets taped to a shot gun shell and place on display while date is there. :D

Way to be man!

Sometimes the threat of violence is all it takes!

:sign0098:

Chiefster
10-26-2007, 10:25 PM
The youngsters are running things nowadays!

We may think we are in charge, but technology has made them very powerful with the Force!

This is, unfortunately, true; the days of the traditional "idea" of the family unit are long gone.


i agree. i was shocked and appalled at that. it seems nowadays kids are getting learning these things and experimenting at a younger age. why should kids be even worrying about those kind of things at such a young age?

It seems that the state is bent on taking parenting out of the hands of the parents but are all to eager to blame the parent when the kid screws up.

hermhater
10-26-2007, 10:27 PM
This is, unfortunately, true; the days of the traditional "idea" of the family unit are long gone.



It seems that the state is bent on taking parenting out of the hands of the parents but are all to eager to blame the parent when the kid screws up.


Some of the wisest words ever typed by Chiefster and no :11:.

You're slippin' old man!

:lol:

Chiefster
10-26-2007, 10:31 PM
Some of the wisest words ever typed by Chiefster and no :11:.

You're slippin' old man!

:lol:

Thanks.

This has been occurring the last twenty years. :lol:

tornadospotter
10-26-2007, 10:39 PM
Dude I feel you and all, but were you on acid for the last part of that statement?

:sign0153: :toast2:
Middle daughter's dates have to deal with the :mob: if they are inappropriate with my daughter. My son in-law is now the enforcer. :D The mob is a group of guys and gals that were friends and class mates of my oldest and her husband and now are friends of Mom and Me, as we hang out and have the occasional B.Q. and invite them all over. They very close to us, even showed up to scoop me out when we had a heavy snow storm last year.

hermhater
10-26-2007, 10:43 PM
Middle daughter's dates have to deal with the :mob: if they are inappropriate with my daughter. My son in-law is now the enforcer. :D The mob is a group of guys and gals that were friends and class mates of my oldest and her husband and now are friends of Mom and Me, as we hang out and have the occasional B.Q. and invite them all over. They very close to us, even showed up to scoop me out when we had a heavy snow storm last year.

Sounds like you've got a great family!

Keep them safe!

:sign0098:

chief31
10-27-2007, 06:24 AM
I personally got a problem with this, I never think it's a good thing to encourage adolescent and pre-adolescents to to be anything less then forthcoming with their parents.

I think the problem is that one side of the argument calls it encouraging the behaviour, while the other side says the first side is in denial. Both are semi-insulting. I think that something needs to be doen, by the individual parents.


This is, unfortunately, true; the days of the traditional "idea" of the family unit are long gone.



It seems that the state is bent on taking parenting out of the hands of the parents but are all to eager to blame the parent when the kid screws up.

Wow, Chiefster. Good call. :sign0098:

luv
10-27-2007, 02:33 PM
This is, unfortunately, true; the days of the traditional "idea" of the family unit are long gone.



It seems that the state is bent on taking parenting out of the hands of the parents but are all to eager to blame the parent when the kid screws up.
In some cases, it's probably a good thing. THe parents are "worthless" and someone has to take care of these kids.

If you are a good parent, you won't have to worry about this for your kids. I think that the schools are doing this to help aide those who aren't coming from good families.

While I can see the side of it encouraging certain behaviors, at the same time, I see were they see where STD's and pregnancy amonst teens is on the rise and they're trying to help do something about it.

Again, you won't have to worry about your children being influenced by this if you've done your job as a parent, which I know you have, Chiefster.

Canada
10-27-2007, 02:36 PM
In some cases, it's probably a good thing. THe parents are "worthless" and someone has to take care of these kids.

If you are a good parent, you won't have to worry about this for your kids. I think that the schools are doing this to help aide those who aren't coming from good families.

While I can see the side of it encouraging certain behaviors, at the same time, I see were they see where STD's and pregnancy amonst teens is on the rise and they're trying to help do something about it.

Again, you won't have to worry about your children being influenced by this if you've done your job as a parent, which I know you have, Chiefster.

Parents can only do so much. I have two great parents and I did some really dumb sh!t....still do. :) Just a quick 2 cents. Haven't read the whole article!!

sling58
10-27-2007, 02:37 PM
Parents can only do so much. I have two great parents and I did some really dumb sh!t....still do. :) Just a quick 2 cents. Haven't read the whole article!!

say it isn't so?

:lol: :lol:

hermhater
10-27-2007, 05:04 PM
Parents can only do so much. I have two great parents and I did some really dumb sh!t....still do. :) Just a quick 2 cents. Haven't read the whole article!!

Did your dad give you a condom?

:lol: :bananen_smilies046:

Chiefster
10-27-2007, 10:29 PM
I think the problem is that one side of the argument calls it encouraging the behaviour, while the other side says the first side is in denial. Both are semi-insulting. I think that something needs to be doen, by the individual parents...

Good point.


In some cases, it's probably a good thing. THe parents are "worthless" and someone has to take care of these kids.

If you are a good parent, you won't have to worry about this for your kids. I think that the schools are doing this to help aide those who aren't coming from good families.

While I can see the side of it encouraging certain behaviors, at the same time, I see were they see where STD's and pregnancy amonst teens is on the rise and they're trying to help do something about it.

Again, you won't have to worry about your children being influenced by this if you've done your job as a parent, which I know you have, Chiefster.

Another good point, and thanks kiddo. :)

Canada
10-29-2007, 09:50 AM
Did your dad give you a condom?

:lol: :bananen_smilies046:

Would you like to meet my kids?? :lol:

hermhater
10-29-2007, 06:23 PM
Would you like to meet my kids?? :lol:

What is the drinking age up there in Canada?

Do they put beer in baby bottles still?

:lol: :bananen_smilies046:

Canada
10-29-2007, 07:33 PM
What is the drinking age up there in Canada?

Do they put beer in baby bottles still?

:lol: :bananen_smilies046:

It is a very lenient 19, as far as the baby bottle thing, It takes waaaaay to long to get the beer out!! :bananen_smilies046: