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matthewschiefs
11-20-2016, 04:19 PM
I asked the offense to step up this week. They didn't do that. Once again they were pretty bad. And this time the D didn't bail them out.

The offense will get a lot of flack and rightfully so this week. But this was a total team loss.

The D from start to finish didn't get them off the field. I could have gotten open on 3rd down against them. They were that bad.

Alex Smith underperformed again today. He normally isn't one that loses you games but today he was a big part in that. For the 2nd straight week he made rookie mistake that led to an INT. And was a big swing in the game. The Chiefs usually are the ones to force opponents to do that. And that was a big decider in the game.

Andy Reid playcalling continues to be a big factor as well. At the end you need to MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN and you run a 4 yard pass? REALLY? Like 4 yards was going to be a difference maker there. Just baffles me. Also yet again WRs on 3rd down not getting to the Chains. I have said this before I will say it again. You have to at some point give yourself a chance. And we continue to do things to not give ourselves a chance.

This L has been coming for weeks. Maybe this will serve as a wakeup call. Simply put right now the Chiefs might be winning some games. But they are doing everything they can to lose. And in the postseason that's the thing that cost you.

Eydugstr
11-20-2016, 04:51 PM
This one does sting. If we're hoping to be a SB contender, every home game should be a W.

The playcalling was awful. We were clearly not doing well passing and kept right on doing it. We should've just been more patient with the run game. The pick never should have happened.

matthewschiefs
11-20-2016, 04:57 PM
This one does sting. If we're hoping to be a SB contender, every home game should be a W.

The playcalling was awful. We were clearly not doing well passing and kept right on doing it. We should've just been more patient with the run game. The pick never should have happened.

This team can still be a contender.

The D doesn't normally fail that badly on 3rd down

The offense has at times shown they can get the job done.

They just have to get on the same page. They have been flirting with disaster the past few weeks. They got that disaster today. This could be just the wake-up call they needed. We will see about that next week

Chiefs4life24
11-20-2016, 05:26 PM
Mitch Hothus said it was deflected and he didn't put it all on Alex and if he didn't then I'm not going to either

Kcman
11-20-2016, 05:28 PM
Im just sick was a easy win we once again pissed away this offense has been aweful all year long and guess what nothing changed andy reid play calling is just crap but even thow everyone saying it we get more screens that int should never happened at all remmber 3 points could have won game but the way are D was playing doudt that would have happened !! 300 yards on Winston just completely garbage!!! Im sorry they made him look like a tom brady or a Payton manning today so guess what we get to here all week Winston the rapist how much a god he is on nfl channel thank you D NELSON YOUR GARBAGE COMPLETELY!! Petters i love u but rly u couldn't play afyer your super punt!! Man up!! This lose straight up pisses me off bc it shouldn't have hapoend denver and alanta next lol to be honest i dont even think will make playoffs playing like this!!

Chiefs4life24
11-20-2016, 05:51 PM
Winston is a good QB and I knew this was gonna be a tough game Tampa is really good, so this wasn't an easy win it was gonna be a hard one to win

matthewschiefs
11-20-2016, 06:09 PM
Mitch Hothus said it was deflected and he didn't put it all on Alex and if he didn't then I'm not going to either

The tip might have come into play. But Alex still can't stare down WRS. He didn't even make an effort to look off the defender. That just can't happen and a QB that has been in the NFL as long as Alex has should know better.

Kcman
11-20-2016, 06:16 PM
Your right C4L im just upset this a game we shouldn't have lost

hollasin
11-20-2016, 06:32 PM
It was tipped but the tip only made it go from an interception in the endzone to an interception with a big return. Nelson got beat like a drum today wish they would've put White on the outside and left Nelson in the slot.

This game is on the Offense the defense keep them out the end zone multiple drives in a row but keep getting out back on the field quickly. Bend but don't break defense usually works when the Offense can score points. Defense gives up 18 points a game gave up 19 today. Offense averages 22 struggled to get 17. 3rd downs were bad by the defense which was the major flaw for them. Everything accept 3 drives was terrible for the offense

jason1981
11-20-2016, 07:02 PM
The defense was bad today. They ran and threw on us all day. Big pass plays all day. Cb peters out hurt us which made it worse was ford going out. Bucs qb had to kuch time to throw. Akd they were picking on nelson.
Smith was having a decent game and had some nice long completions. But the int didnt look good. If it wasnt tipped i think it would have been incomplete cuz it would have been on time and conley would have been in position to atleast knock the ball down from being intercepted. Plus i hate play calls throwing in the middle at the goal. To much clutter. So its on ried as well. This to me was a trap game. Smith did seem to be in better rythym than last week. I hope maclin gets healthy and peters.

matthewschiefs
11-20-2016, 08:00 PM
It was tipped but the tip only made it go from an interception in the endzone to an interception with a big return. Nelson got beat like a drum today wish they would've put White on the outside and left Nelson in the slot.

This game is on the Offense the defense keep them out the end zone multiple drives in a row but keep getting out back on the field quickly. Bend but don't break defense usually works when the Offense can score points. Defense gives up 18 points a game gave up 19 today. Offense averages 22 struggled to get 17. 3rd downs were bad by the defense which was the major flaw for them. Everything accept 3 drives was terrible for the offense


I think the D had a lot to do with this L as well

From drive 1 they let them stay on the field control the ball time after time after time. They allowed Tampa to do what we normally do to teams. They controlled the ball and the game throughout. And the D let them do it despite many chances to get off the field.

That's not to say that the offense couldn't have done more and won. But the D helped them get beat as well with all the 3rd down conversions they gave up many times to a WIDE open guy

hollasin
11-20-2016, 08:33 PM
Defense played a part in the lost but take away the Pitt game when neither side showed up the defense been carrying the team. Turnovers keep putting the Offense is short fields which didn't happen today.

Without Peters, Howard, Ford, Houston and Hali not at 100% defense keep them to 3 field goals, a TD, and a turnover in the redzone. This offense can't stay on the field and it bit the defense today. When you can't pick up a 3rd down so the defense can catch a break and figure something out you don't stand a chance.

Defense was due to have a bad game offense been having them all season

Eydugstr
11-20-2016, 09:43 PM
This team can still be a contender.

The D doesn't normally fail that badly on 3rd down

The offense has at times shown they can get the job done.

They just have to get on the same page. They have been flirting with disaster the past few weeks. They got that disaster today. This could be just the wake-up call they needed. We will see about that next week

Oh I think we're still a contender and we'll be in the playoffs, just not a SB contender this year.

Yes the D normally doesn't fail that bad on third down - but normally the D has Marcus Peters. And hat's off to Winston for doing a good job picking our secondary apart. It was good to see Justin Houston back.

Usually our offense does rally (enough) to get the W but today it did finally bite them in the butt. The bad play calls, the drops, the bad time management - needs to change.

ctchiefsfan
11-20-2016, 09:48 PM
Im just sick was a easy win we once again pissed away this offense has been aweful all year long and guess what nothing changed andy reid play calling is just crap but even thow everyone saying it we get more screens that int should never happened at all remmber 3 points could have won game but the way are D was playing doudt that would have happened !! 300 yards on Winston just completely garbage!!! Im sorry they made him look like a tom brady or a Payton manning today so guess what we get to here all week Winston the rapist how much a god he is on nfl channel thank you D NELSON YOUR GARBAGE COMPLETELY!! Petters i love u but rly u couldn't play afyer your super punt!! Man up!! This lose straight up pisses me off bc it shouldn't have hapoend denver and alanta next lol to be honest i dont even think will make playoffs playing like this!!

Yes...This loss SUCKED. But to be honest, our Defense did what they do. Bend but don't break. 4 times we held them to a Field Goal. That ain't bad. What was missing were the turnovers. And Marcus Peters being out had something to do with that. No doubt the Offense needs a SERIOUS kick in the ash, but this team lives or dies by it's Defense and turnovers and has for a few years now. Having Peters out really hurt us.

Chiefs4life24
11-20-2016, 09:51 PM
Peters, and dont forget Bailey, Howard and now Dee Ford is hurt

ctchiefsfan
11-20-2016, 09:59 PM
It was tipped but the tip only made it go from an interception in the endzone to an interception with a big return. Nelson got beat like a drum today wish they would've put White on the outside and left Nelson in the slot.

This game is on the Offense the defense keep them out the end zone multiple drives in a row but keep getting out back on the field quickly. Bend but don't break defense usually works when the Offense can score points. Defense gives up 18 points a game gave up 19 today. Offense averages 22 struggled to get 17. 3rd downs were bad by the defense which was the major flaw for them. Everything accept 3 drives was terrible for the offense

That is the voice of reason. Defense did just fine limiting Tampa to 4 field goals and just 1 TD. No shame in that at all even with all the yards and 1st downs they gave up. We didn't lose this game because of the Defense. They only gave up 19 points. We lost because we couldn't score more than 19 points and that is A PROBLEM. Our Defense is JUST FINE--not perfect, but damned good.

Our Offense simply is not getting the job done. I won't blame Andy or Alex or anybody else for that just yet but they need to pull their ship together.

ctchiefsfan
11-20-2016, 10:08 PM
Peters, and dont forget Bailey, Howard and now Dee Ford is hurt

Yeah....The injury bug is kicking our butt this year.

Oh....and about you saying you were going to leave because of all the negativity...YOU BETTER NOT!!! You are a damned fine Chiefs fan and you belong here! GRRRRRRRR

matthewschiefs
11-20-2016, 10:41 PM
Oh I think we're still a contender and we'll be in the playoffs, just not a SB contender this year.

Yes the D normally doesn't fail that bad on third down - but normally the D has Marcus Peters. And hat's off to Winston for doing a good job picking our secondary apart. It was good to see Justin Houston back.

Usually our offense does rally (enough) to get the W but today it did finally bite them in the butt. The bad play calls, the drops, the bad time management - needs to change.

We could be Just remember what Denver won with last year.

Our offense can match what theirs did. And so can our D when they are on their game.

But the offense has to play better then what they have been to have any shot. They have shown they can they just have to do it

Eydugstr
11-21-2016, 09:30 AM
We could be Just remember what Denver won with last year.

Our offense can match what theirs did. And so can our D when they are on their game.

But the offense has to play better then what they have been to have any shot. They have shown they can they just have to do it

The Donks got in with a whole lotta blind eyes from the refs and league officials.

Again, if we clean up our mistakes, we'll be fine. Just don't think we are a SB contender this year. Right not we're not pushovers but we're just not a dominant team.

Justin5772002
11-21-2016, 11:10 AM
We don't have great depth at CB. Behind Peters we have guys who can show flashes but just can't keep consistency. Our Chiefs are decimated my injuries and if we were 100% healthy I say we are most definately SB contenders. Let's punch our ticket to the dance and get healthy for the playoffs then anything is possible.

ctchiefsfan
11-21-2016, 01:31 PM
We don't have great depth at CB. Behind Peters we have guys who can show flashes but just can't keep consistency. Our Chiefs are decimated my injuries and if we were 100% healthy I say we are most definately SB contenders. Let's punch our ticket to the dance and get healthy for the playoffs then anything is possible.

Exactly so!