***Pre-season Game Day Thread Week 3: Chiefs vs 49ers***

[TopekaRoy]

"Looks good. Who are the Chefs?"

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[TopekaRoy]

The Kansas City Chiefs

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vs.

San Francisco 49ers

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Saturday, August 24, 7:00PM CT
at
Arrowhead Stadium
Kansas City, MO
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Television coverage:
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Topeka, KS
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Stats & Stuff


Weather forecast: http://nflweather.com/assets/weather/small/ncloudy.png 75 degrees Fahrenheit. Overcast. 10 mph ESE winds.

Line: Chiefs -3.5, Over/Under: 45

OddsShark Super Computer Prediction:
Chiefs 26.1
49ers 20.6

Notable Quotables:

Chiefs:

"The first step [for the Chiefs] is creating that competitive atmosphere. Just being brutally honest, it wasn't here on the defensive side last year."

--Chiefs Defensive End Frank Clark

49ers:


“[The defensive line] is a very good group, it is very talented, it is versatile, but you can throw all that in the garbage if they don’t come with that mindset every single day to get better.”

--49ers Defensive Coordinator Robert Saleh

[TopekaRoy]

Injury Report:

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Gehrig Dieter, WR Questionable
Tyrann Mathieu, S Questionable
Michael Hunter, CB Questionable

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Adrian Colbert, CB Questionable
Damontre' Moore, DE Questionable
Tim Harris, CB Questionable
Jerick McKinnon, RB Questionable
Weston Richburg, C Out

[TopekaRoy]

'Ambitious and aggressive': Inside the Chiefs' defensive overhaul
From ESPN.com (https://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/26545/ambitious-and-aggressive-inside-the-chiefs-defensive-overhaul)
Posted: Thursday, Aug 22, 2019


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Adam Teicher


ESPN Staff Writer





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The Chiefs added a new defensive coordinator, a new scheme and new stars to a unit that finished 31st in total defense last season. AP Photo/Charlie Riedel

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo looks at what he's trying to accomplish with the Kansas City Chiefs and at times sees eventual success. At other moments, he seems overwhelmed by the process.

"I've been through this first-year thing a number of times," said Spagnuolo, a veteran defensive coach. "Sometimes it's gone really good, and sometimes it hasn't gone so good."

In 2019, the Chiefs are facing the unknown with an overhauled defense filled with new stars and new coaches. Nobody, not even Spagnuolo, is certain how it will work out.

But the Chiefs had to try something. Their defense was that bad last season.

The Chiefs went 12-4, won the AFC West for the third straight year and won a home playoff game for the first time in 25 years, but further success was wasted by the defense. In his first year as a starter, quarterback Patrick Mahomes threw for 5,000 yards and 50 touchdowns and won the league's MVP, but in the end, it counted for nothing when the defense collapsed in the AFC Championship Game against the New England Patriots.

Chiefs D: Who's In, Who's Out In 2019?


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Frank Clark, above, is in, while players such as Justin Houston, Dee Ford and Eric Berry are out:





In in 2019
CB Bashaud Breeland
CB Morris Claiborne
DE Frank Clark
LB Darron Lee
S Tyrann Mathieu
DE Emmanuel Ogbah
DE Alex Okafor
S Juan Thornhill
LB Damien Wilson
Out in 2019
DL Allen Bailey
S Eric Berry
LB Dee Ford
LB Justin Houston
S Eric Murray
CB Steven Nelson
S Ron Parker
CB Orlando Scandrick










The Chiefs weren't interested in a repeat of that performance, so they reconstructed their defense. They hired Spagnuolo and a new defensive staff. They changed defensive systems, switching to a base 4-3. They acquired as many as seven players who will be defensive regulars, including end Frank Clark and safety Tyrann Mathieu.

It's a lot of change in a very short period, but the Chiefs thought they couldn't afford to wait.

"It was a little ambitious and aggressive, but that's the mode we operate in," general manager Brett Veach said. "We have a great offense, and we want to take advantage of that every year and while they're all young and healthy and playing at a high level.

"Offense, especially with coach [Andy] Reid, is an execution deal, and it’s timing and precision. It’s reps upon reps upon reps. Not to say that defense isn’t, but defense is more of a mindset and a temperament. So you want to bring in guys that are going to come in and get other players to respond to them."

Reid took only hours after the AFC Championship Game loss to decide to turn over the defensive staff, led by long-time coordinator Bob Sutton. He resisted a similar change the year before out of respect for Sutton's abilities and instead focused on fixing defensive problems by changing players. The Chiefs brought in five veterans and drafted defensive players with their first five picks.

"Our first three, four years, I thought we were really good on defense," said Reid, who joined the Chiefs in 2013. "It kind of carried us for a little bit."

Last year's changes didn't work. The Chiefs got old on defense. They received almost nothing from safety Eric Berry, who was injured for most of a second straight season.

The Chiefs finished last season 31st in total defense, ahead of only the 6-10 Bengals.

"Unfortunately in this business, sometimes that happens," Reid said. "That transition sometimes just doesn't work.

"Sometimes change can be good. It can be healthy if handled the right way. Spags is a veteran coach. Bringing people in that worked with him or were familiar with his system was a good get there and important."

The Chiefs might not have attempted such bold defensive turnover if they were starting a staff from scratch. But Spagnuolo worked eight seasons for Reid with the Eagles as a defensive assistant. The Chiefs hired four other new defensive coaches. All had played or coached with Spagnuolo.

"The good thing was that there was already a rapport between Spags and Andy," Veach said. "I had spent some time with Spags in Philly. So when he came in, we were speaking the same language and were able to effectively communicate."

The next step was a significant player overhaul. The Chiefs cleared out Berry and other longtime veterans such as Justin Houston, Allen Bailey and Dee Ford, who had 13 sacks last season but was thought to be unfit for the new system.

Some players survived the purge, most notably Chris Jones. With 15.5 sacks last season, Jones emerged as one of the NFL's top defensive linemen.

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Chiefs fans already know how important the addition of Tyrann Mathieu was this offseason.
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Cleaning up an underperforming defensive roster was the easy part. The Chiefs also had to add, and the first piece, Mathieu, was costly. He signed for three years and $42 million, making him at the time the highest-paid safety in the league.

To Veach, Mathieu was essential to the process. In Berry's absence, the Chiefs suffered at safety. The team rated Mathieu higher than any of the other available free-agent safeties, including Earl Thomas and Landon Collins.

From the moment he walked through the Arrowhead Stadium doors, Mathieu became the Chiefs' defensive leader, the player others looked to for guidance.

"The expectations are high, especially with our football team, especially with the defense just trying to set a standard," Mathieu said. "It starts with Spags. He's won some championships. He's put some great players in the Hall of Fame, with a few more to be inducted.

"The sky is the limit, but it's going to be a tough hill to climb. It won't be easy. It's a new scheme for all of us, so there's going to be some valleys in there. I think that's why I'm here, to kind of keep guys up, to keep their spirits right. I think we'll be all right."

After signing Mathieu, the Chiefs filled in with other defensive pieces: linebacker Damien Wilson, cornerback Bashaud Breeland, ends Alex Okafor and Emmanuel Ogbah, and safety Juan Thornhill, a second-round draft pick.

But their other major acquisition came in the days before the draft. Clark had 13 sacks last season for the Seahawks.

The Chiefs kept an eye on Clark for months, identifying him as a possible free-agent addition. The Seahawks effectively kept him off the free-agent market by making him their franchise player. That necessitated a trade.

"We were in dialogue with Seattle for a long time," Veach said. "They had some things they had to work through with [Russell Wilson] and [Bobby] Wagner. I felt the longer it went on, the more they were thinking about it. The dialogue early on was always, 'Let's stay in touch.' That was a positive sign to us, encouraging to us."

Veach wouldn't let a possible deal die. The trade was reached when the Chiefs sent a first-round pick to the Seahawks and signed Clark to a five-year contract worth more than $100 million.

Clark played on a top-five defense in his first two NFL seasons with the Seahawks in 2015 and '16.

"The first step [for the Chiefs] is creating that competitive atmosphere," Clark said. "Just being brutally honest, it wasn't here on the defensive side last year. When you look around, you see total defense, and we ranked 31st in the league. That doesn't make anyone proud. As a fan, as a coach, as a player, you shouldn't be proud. ... We're coming in here with a whole different type of attitude. We're coming here to win, we're coming here to compete, and we want to be the best.

"It's just that time for the competitors to come out and compete and for everyone else to fall off, I guess."

The Chiefs feel good about their defensive line, where they have not only top-end players in Clark and Jones but depth as well. Safety looks to be another much improved position with Mathieu and Thornhill.

The Chiefs might, however, eventually wish they had accomplished more at linebacker and cornerback.

"You can't do everything," Veach said. "There are only so many picks you have and so much money you have. But we feel good about the things we were able to get done. We felt like [Mathieu] was the best safety out there, and Frank Clark was the best pass-rusher out there. We utilized the resources we had the best way we could."

The Chiefs are encouraged by some early signs. Clark and Jones are a strong pass-rush tandem. Thornhill looks to be a bargain. The defense presented some problems to Mahomes and one of the NFL's best offenses during training camp.

"They do a lot of stuff," Mahomes said after one training camp practice. "It is hard to read. They get me a good amount of times where I think I have them picked up, and they have something that goes off of something they may have done two days earlier. Just having that inbox where they can go and show one blitz one day and then do the exact opposite the other day when it looks the same will be something that will be hard for other offenses to progress against."

The Chiefs are racing to get their defense ready by the Sept. 8 regular-season opener against the Jaguars. The deadline looms larger with every passing day, and Spagnuolo might have to simplify his defensive plans, at least to begin with.

"That's something I have to make a real hard decision on," Spagnuolo said. "It will be dictated by what the guys can do. I do believe that as you approach this thing, you'd better make sure that they're not thinking and that they're playing, if that makes any sense. I'm hoping we've got the kind of guys that can handle multiple defensive packages and still play fast, but we'll see."

[TopekaRoy]

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Edit: Also, some of the sites won't post game links until 0 to 30 minutes before kick-off, but the links I provided will get you to them.

[Eydugstr]

Thanks for setting these up TR.

[Eydugstr]

Way too open there

[Chiefs4life24]

Breeland is down and Hurt

[Eydugstr]

Good job D

[TopekaRoy]

Thanks for setting these up TR.

No problem. This one looks like a really good Chiefs stream that's easy to open. Just close the pop-up.

https://www.streamsports.ws/event/san-francisco-kansas/2019-08-25/367592

[Eydugstr]

Touchdown Chiefs!!!!

[Chiefs4life24]

Touchdown Williams!!!

[TopekaRoy]

Touchdown Chiefs! Great pass by Mahomes.

[TopekaRoy]

Defense didn't get much time to rest. I fear that will be an ongoing issue this season.

[Eydugstr]

Breeland is back on the field

[Eydugstr]

Garappolo dropped that one in a bucket

[Eydugstr]

And SF cones right back

[matthewschiefs]

Turn the game on just intime to see the 49ers score just my luck

[Pro_Angler]

Gonna be same old BS crappy defense!@ firecthat POS SPAG!!!!

[TopekaRoy]

And SF cones right backThat's exactly what I was afraid would happen. Defense gets gassed because our offense scores so fast. Hopefully, the D will get more stamina as the season goes on.

[Seek]

Thornhill is getting taken to the woodshed.

[Eydugstr]

That's exactly what I was afraid would happen. Defense gets gassed because our offense scores so fast. Hopefully, the D will get more stamina as the season goes on.

That's the downside of having a great offense. But at the same time this D needs to help itself and come up with more three and outs.

[TopekaRoy]

That's it. Take your time offense. Let the D catch their breaths.

[Seek]

it's the first quarter. the defense isnt tired. they just sucked

[Chiefs4life24]

Matt Derrick asked Spagnola about Thornhill getting burned on the play to Pettis and he said Thornhill is still thinking too much instead of just reacting to the play.

[TopekaRoy]

That's the downside of having a great offense. But at the same time this D needs to help itself and come up with more three and outs.

True dat. The O can't not take big gains when they are there. It just makes it that much harder for the D. They aren't in mid-season shape, yet.

[Eydugstr]

Wow o line blew it there.

[matthewschiefs]

Not sure I like Mahomes taking that hit

[TopekaRoy]

it's the first quarter. the defense isnt tired. they just sucked
No, you're right. The D sucked. But they suck less when they are rested. :lol:

Let's see how they do now.

[matthewschiefs]

Gonna be same old BS crappy defense!@ firecthat POS SPAG!!!!


It's a tad early for this bud

[Seek]

nice sack Clark

[TopekaRoy]

Sack! That's better.

[matthewschiefs]

SACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope to see a lot of Clark doing that

[Eydugstr]

True dat. The O can't not take big gains when they are there. It just makes it that much harder for the D. They aren't in mid-season shape, yet.

Hopefully its also a case of Spags not showing too much, but its going to take some help from next draft to make this D intimidating.

[Seek]

looks like he is pulling the. Watkins has a towel on his head and he is taking like he is done

[Seek]

Hopefully its also a case of Spags not showing too much, but its going to take some help from next draft to make this D intimidating.

He blitzed three times leaving the secondary in man with no help

[TopekaRoy]

Hopefully its also a case of Spags not showing too much, but its going to take some help from next draft to make this D intimidating.
Yeah, pre-season Defense is very "vanilla." But it's also gonna take a few weeks for this new D to gel. New coach, new system and lots of new players. I think they will be fine. They don't need to be MUCH better than last year.

... at least not right away.

[Seek]

one thing is sure. the defense is hitting harder and for the most part wrapping up

[Eydugstr]

...and Garappolo picks up another 1st...

[Eydugstr]

He blitzed three times leaving the secondary in man with no help

Might be Spags' way of trying to learn what he has with this secondary. With that being said, the D line isn't getting much push into their backfield.

[Eydugstr]

Good job #49

[Eydugstr]

Nice pass Shurmur

[TopekaRoy]

:sign0053:

[Eydugstr]

:sign0053:

LOL come on refs let 'em play

[matthewschiefs]

:sign0053:


Watch your langue

[TopekaRoy]

Watch your langue

I DID! I censored myself!

[Eydugstr]

Boom! SACK!!

[Chiefs4life24]

Andrew Luck just announced his retirement

[matthewschiefs]

Andrew Luck just announced his retirement


WOW what a blow for the Colts

I remember some wanted the Chiefs to suck for Luck glad they didnt

[Eydugstr]

Andrew Luck just announced his retirement

?!?!! Wow......

[Eydugstr]

Hardman first down

[Eydugstr]

And another....

[TopekaRoy]

Andrew Luck just announced his retirement
I thought you were kidding but it's true. It's TRUE!

[matthewschiefs]

Am I wrong or is Hardman like way ahead of where Hill was in his first preseason

[Eydugstr]

Shurmur first down!

[Eydugstr]

Am I wrong or is Hardman like way ahead of where Hill was in his first preseason
Game plan-wise maybe...but don't recall anyone catching Hill in his first preseason...

[matthewschiefs]

Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TopekaRoy]

Touchdown Pringle! Good 2nd string drive. Shurmer and Hardman looked really good.

[Eydugstr]

And we're back!

[Eydugstr]

Our secondary is getting shredded....

[matthewschiefs]

Game plan-wise maybe...but don't recall anyone catching Hill in his first preseason...

I wasn't expecting Hardman to see the field much this year now i am excited about seeing him with our other weapons

[Eydugstr]

I wasn't expecting Hardman to see the field much this year now i am excited about seeing him with our other weapons

They got plans to use Hardman. He's looking like he's first string playing with the second or third unit.

[Eydugstr]

And they run it in.....

[Eydugstr]

Lucky that one didn't get picked...

[Eydugstr]

Good stop by ST

[matthewschiefs]

They got plans to use Hardman. He's looking like he's first string playing with the second or third unit.

Yep He's ahead of where I thought he would be. Reid typically doesn't use the rookie WRs much I don't think Hill even did much in the preseason his rookie year

[Eydugstr]

Yep He's ahead of where I thought he would be. Reid typically doesn't use the rookie WRs much I don't think Hill even did much in the preseason his rookie year

The thing about Hill was they noticed the speed, and it helped Hill's case a lot when he'd make the most of whatever came his way (i.e. taking a 7 yard pass from Alex Smith and turn it into a 70 yard dash)

[matthewschiefs]

Good idea this year to get all the Ls done in the preseason :)

[brdempsey69]

Andrew Luck just announced his retirement

Late here. I thought this was a late April Fools joke at first, but it ain't.

THAT is just downright staggering & it's going to hurt the Colts BAD.

[JPPT1974]

Yeah as defense wins you the game for sure!

[Eydugstr]

Late here. I thought this was a late April Fools joke at first, but it ain't.

THAT is just downright staggering & it's going to hurt the Colts BAD.

Definitely agree. They got the backup from NE (Broucett? Is that his name?) that played well for them when Brady went down a few years ago, but don't think that's going to fill the void left by Andrew Luck.

[Chiefs4life24]

Jacoby Brisett is 5-7 as a starter so I don't think they will win 4 games this year.

[Chiefster]

I have fallen down on the job and neglected my responsibility as a Chiefs fan to take part in these game threads even though it is only preseason. A mistake I look forward to rectifying this Thursday!

[matthewschiefs]

I have fallen down on the job and neglected my responsibility as a Chiefs fan to take part in these game threads even though it is only preseason. A mistake I look forward to rectifying this Thursday!

What makes you think you are going to be allowed back? You messed up big this time

[Chiefster]

LOL! I just saw this.

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