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kcchiefsfan
11-19-2007, 06:49 PM
Is it only me who thinks that the Chiefs run... alot?

They get themselves into this rhythm run, run, and then its the 3rd down with 7 yards to go, obviously they're going to throw, since they only got 3 rushing yards in 2 plays..

Does anyone know who calls the plays?
I'm not asking that in a negative way, just wondering why they dont throw as much..

I know there is more of a risk when throwing.. Are they just trying to be safe with the ball (no interceptions?) or does the play caller like to see runs?

It seems like all season they've been calling plays that are runs, and Croyle was in against the Colts, and I want to see this guy throw! I know he's got a strong arm!

What do you think about this?

tornadospotter
11-19-2007, 07:07 PM
No it is not just you. That has been a hot topic all season. We need to stop playing so conservative on offense. This has been on many threads in this forum. Now that Brodie is the starter, and with our win loss ratio at this time, I to would like to see what the kid can do, and what we have in Webb. We know DB is a stud.:welcome: :bananen_smilies046: :sign0098:

hermhater
11-19-2007, 07:21 PM
Well some people think it is Solari calling the plays, and I can't disagree, because I don't have access to the internal workings of the Chiefs organization.

I do know that Herm is the final word when it comes to the play calling, and he sucks at it.

We have been saying all year that this team has the most predictable (which equals easy to defend) play calling.

I would love to see Herm air the ball out. Especially with the acquisition of DBo.

If I were DBo I would be looking for a trade as soon as my contract is up. There is no way he will have a hall of fame career with Herm as his coach.

greg3564
11-19-2007, 08:14 PM
They get themselves into this rhythm run, run, and then its the 3rd down with 7 yards to go, obviously they're going to throw,

Unless you play Indy, the you run another 2 yard draw, because the coach is okay with giving the other team the ball and hoping the defense will hold. I think they need to dig out the Dick Vermeil play book. The whole reason Dick ran up yards and scores was because he never hesitated to throw it deep a lot. Which in turn made the run game successful because the opposing defense had to honor the deep throw. The dink and dunk passing now and running the first two downs makes it real easy to stuff the box.

hermhater
11-19-2007, 09:54 PM
Unless you play Indy, the you run another 2 yard draw, because the coach is okay with giving the other team the ball and hoping the defense will hold. I think they need to dig out the Dick Vermeil play book. The whole reason Dick ran up yards and scores was because he never hesitated to throw it deep a lot. Which in turn made the run game successful because the opposing defense had to honor the deep throw. The dink and dunk passing now and running the first two downs makes it real easy to stuff the box.

Interesting you should say that.

I read somewhere today that Herm kept the playbook the same.

Just seems we aren't getting into it very deep.

Herm has no idea what he is doing on offense.

greg3564
11-19-2007, 10:02 PM
Interesting you should say that.

I read somewhere today that Herm kept the playbook the same.

Just seems we aren't getting into it very deep.

Herm has no idea what he is doing on offense.

I read that too on kcstar.com and the author of that article didn't seem to believe it either. What happened to the reverses, the deep throws, and screens? I don't remember draw plays time and time again. And certainly not on 3rd and long in the fourth. Herm is full of crap. I give him one more season. If this team performs like this next year, the Hunts will have no choice but to show him the door, as the fans and players will be in total revolt. It's almost that bad now.

hermhater
11-19-2007, 10:07 PM
I read that too on kcstar.com and the author of that article didn't seem to believe it either. What happened to the reverses, the deep throws, and screens? I don't remember draw plays time and time again. And certainly not on 3rd and long in the fourth. Herm is full of crap. I give him one more season. If this team performs like this next year, the Hunts will have no choice but to show him the door, as the fans and players will be in total revolt. It's almost that bad now.

I've hated the guy since before he got here.

He destroys QB's.

I don't think I need to but here are a few.

Chad Pennington, Trent Green, Damon Huard...

Let's hope to god Damon is not next.

timsatt1
11-19-2007, 11:44 PM
I've hated the guy since before he got here.

He destroys QB's.

I don't think I need to but here are a few.

Chad Pennington, Trent Green, Damon Huard...

Let's hope to god (edit for HH)Brodie is not next.


had to fix it for ya buddy.

hermhater
11-19-2007, 11:54 PM
had to fix it for ya buddy.

Thanks man.

I guess I was paying too much attention to the game!

:sign0098:

wolfpack
11-20-2007, 02:16 AM
Unless you play Indy, the you run another 2 yard draw, because the coach is okay with giving the other team the ball and hoping the defense will hold. I think they need to dig out the Dick Vermeil play book. The whole reason Dick ran up yards and scores was because he never hesitated to throw it deep a lot. Which in turn made the run game successful because the opposing defense had to honor the deep throw. The dink and dunk passing now and running the first two downs makes it real easy to stuff the box.
Dickie went for scores everytime the offense had the ball and wasn`t affraid to go for the throat. hermmie tries to put you asleep the goes for his punters throat.

hermhater
11-20-2007, 02:48 AM
Dickie went for scores everytime the offense had the ball and wasn`t affraid to go for the throat. hermmie tries to put you asleep the goes for his punters throat.



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Time for sweeping change!!!! I want a coach that will stick his foot on the opponents throat and DARE them to get up!!!!
I'm da debil! You have been warned!
I think this sums it up.

Belichick is an a$$ and wins Super Bowls.

Herm is a really nice guy, and has a losing record overall in his career, as well as this season.

It just so happens that THIS season Herm is with the Chiefs.

That is not acceptable to me.

I say Herm has an "accident" and can't attend this weeks game...


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Chiefster
11-20-2007, 05:02 PM
Is it only me who thinks that the Chiefs run... alot?...

You've been a Chiefs fan for 14 years and this is somehow a revelation to you?

kcchiefsfan
11-20-2007, 05:25 PM
They have always run the ball.. but ever since Herm became the coach, I've noticed that they do it more.

Chiefster
11-20-2007, 06:14 PM
They have always run the ball.. but ever since Herm became the coach, I've noticed that they do it more.

...especially on first down!

kcchiefsfan
11-21-2007, 04:32 PM
HAHA yeah!!

rbedgood
11-30-2007, 01:34 AM
They have always run the ball.. but ever since Herm became the coach, I've noticed that they do it more.

It's not that they do it more that stands out, its that they do it less effectively.

Chiefster
11-30-2007, 01:36 AM
It's not that they do it more that stands out, its that they do it less effectively.

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!!!!!!!!!

We have a winner Johnny!!! :D

Rep!

hermhater
12-01-2007, 05:28 AM
It's not that they do it more that stands out, its that they do it like crap now.

FYR!

:mob:

wolfpack
12-01-2007, 08:55 AM
They have always run the ball.. but ever since Herm became the coach, I've noticed that they do it more.
with Dicki`s offense we seemed to open up the run with the pass. now we open up the run with another run. this or should i say hermmie`s offense is prodickable it makes you sick. Dick`s offense, the defense seemed like they didnt know what type of play was going to be run.

hermhater
12-01-2007, 09:48 PM
I sure miss ol' Vermiel...

McLovin
12-01-2007, 09:53 PM
I sure miss ol' Vermiel...
I like Hermies D far more then I did Dicky Vs but I sure miss the O.

Now as far as a person and a coach, while I think that Hermie is a good guy, Dicky V is an awsome man. He is a great coach and would be a wonderful mentor, one of my goals is to meet him, and I started this goal after he retired.