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McLovin
11-22-2007, 12:08 AM
News: According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Raiders RB Lamont Jordan told team officials Monday he wanted out after being benched the past two games. If the Raiders decide to release Jordan, they won't have to look far for a replacement. They must activate rookie RB Michael Bush (http://307090568520.football.nfl.com/players/playerpage/436526) by 1 p.m. Wednesday or place him on the season-ending injured reserve list. Coach Lane Kiffin said the team hasn't decided what to do with Bush, but if it wants to add him to the 53-man roster, a current player must go - and Jordan has already raised his hand for that.
Analysis: Jordan's request came after being put on the inactive list for Sunday's 29-22 loss at Minnesota - the first time he did not suit up when healthy in three seasons with Oakland, including his 1,000-yard debut in 2005. He started the first four games of this season before injuring his back at Miami, where he had 15 carries for 74 yards in the first half. At the time, he ranked among the top five in NFL rushing. Jordan started the next two games, but with 71 yards on 29 carries, lost his starting job to Justin Fargas. Jordan followed that with 16 carries for 26 yards as a backup the next two games. He likely will not play against the Chiefs if he's still with Oakland, so continue to monitor what develops but don't plan on using him this week in any Fantasy league.

This came from my fantasy league, maybe if they waive him the Chiefs could pick him up on a limited contract to play now and back up LJ after he gets back. Just a thought but we sorely need a decent Running Back and he might be the most talented available. Plus he would love to hurt the Raiders because of the way he has been treated.

Chiefster
11-22-2007, 12:13 AM
Not sure he'd exactly find himself at home behind our "O" line.

Polleo Pit Man
11-22-2007, 12:27 AM
I dont think we need another running back! We need a line! So far none of our backs can get much of a block from the boys up front! Im cool with Smith!

Canada
11-22-2007, 12:38 AM
Who dosen't want out of Jokeland??

Guru
11-22-2007, 12:54 AM
Who dosen't want out of Jokeland??

You can check out, but you can never leave.:D

Chiefster
11-22-2007, 12:57 AM
You can check out, but you can never leave.:D

Welcome to the Hotel California....

tornadospotter
11-22-2007, 01:05 AM
To bring in Lamont Jordain :character00264:, could be a option, but he would need to be :character0074:given the raider antidote, and :character00174: rebuilt in to a :character0013:CHIEF. :D

Chiefster
11-22-2007, 01:07 AM
To bring in Lamont Jordain :character00264:, could be a option, but he would need to be :character0074:given the raider antidote, and :character00174: rebuilt in to a :character0013:CHIEF. :D


A Chiefs uniform has the qualities to do this.

tornadospotter
11-22-2007, 01:09 AM
A Chiefs uniform has the qualities to do this.
Yes it does, M. Allen comes to mind.

Chiefster
11-22-2007, 01:10 AM
Yes it does, M. Allen comes to mind.

Yeah, but then he retired and went into the HOF as a Fader.

:mob:

tornadospotter
11-22-2007, 01:32 AM
Yeah, but then he retired and went into the HOF as a Fader.

:mob:
:mob: I must have missed that info, I thought he would not go in as a fader, or did he have a choice. I do not research these things very well.

Chiefster
11-22-2007, 01:51 AM
:mob: I must have missed that info, I thought he would not go in as a fader, or did he have a choice. I do not research these things very well.

He had a choice; even after telling Terry Bradshaw in an interview that he would inter the Hall as a Chief.

Guru
11-22-2007, 01:53 AM
He had a choice; even after telling Terry Bradshaw in an interview that he would inter the Hall as a Chief.

As I recall, the NFL forced him to go in as a Raider.

Chiefster
11-22-2007, 02:19 AM
As I recall, the NFL forced him to go in as a Raider.

I was unaware that. Thanks for the clarification Guru. :)

tornadospotter
11-22-2007, 03:02 AM
I knew that he would not go into the HOF as a raider unless it was forced on him as that it or not. He made it very clear I thought. dirtbag davis, Must have blocked? Or NFL rules? idk

Guru
11-22-2007, 04:34 AM
I would take him, at this point.

hermhater
11-22-2007, 04:39 AM
I would take him, at this point.

At this point?

What point are we at?

This is the beginning of the end for Herm.

Guru
11-22-2007, 04:44 AM
At this point?

What point are we at?

This is the beginning of the end for Herm.

Herm isn't going anywhere. That is what stinks the most about this whole thing.

hermhater
11-22-2007, 04:51 AM
Herm isn't going anywhere. That is what stinks the most about this whole thing.

Exactly. No end in sight.

How many offensive players can we lose before Herm gets fired?

Poll? Bet?

chief31
11-22-2007, 04:54 AM
I do see that, I see that he needs an attitude adjustment, he needs to learn to block and be more of a team player, but I have seen some post on here that even with Priest retiring they still don't miss LJ, I feel that Priest did far more damage to the Chiefs this season then LJ has since he has been with the team, talking the team into believing he was 100% or very close and trading Bennett to make room for him, now look where we are. And Priest has always kinda done what he wanted, but in mosts eyes he can do no wrong.
Right now I am in the worst place I have been as a Chiefs fan in 16 years. Even most on here who wanted to see Priest play didn't want LJ hurt to do it, and didn't think LJ being hurt was a good thing. There are a couple though that still believe this and for them I have no sympathy. Ohhh and one that at first was happy about LJ decided that LJ wasn't the cause like he thought and backed off - all of this before Priest retired.

This mess with Priest should cost Priest money, it should cost Herm and Carl their jobs. And it certainly has cost the Chiefs their season.



I have seen some ridiculous posts around here, but this one takes the cake.

Priest Holmes reagrevates a very serious neck injury, and I am reading how evil he is for that......................
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I am speechless. The only thing that I can do, is notify government authorities, and hope that they determine that it is best to put some people in a rubber room. :scared2:

hermhater
11-22-2007, 04:58 AM
Originally Posted by bryonc http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/redbar/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/showthread.php?p=49327#post49327)
I do see that, I see that he needs an attitude adjustment, he needs to learn to block and be more of a team player, but I have seen some post on here that even with Priest retiring they still don't miss LJ, I feel that Priest did far more damage to the Chiefs this season then LJ has since he has been with the team, talking the team into believing he was 100% or very close and trading Bennett to make room for him, now look where we are. And Priest has always kinda done what he wanted, but in mosts eyes he can do no wrong.
Right now I am in the worst place I have been as a Chiefs fan in 16 years. Even most on here who wanted to see Priest play didn't want LJ hurt to do it, and didn't think LJ being hurt was a good thing. There are a couple though that still believe this and for them I have no sympathy. Ohhh and one that at first was happy about LJ decided that LJ wasn't the cause like he thought and backed off - all of this before Priest retired.

This mess with Priest should cost CARL money, it should cost Herm and Carl their jobs. And it certainly has cost the Chiefs their season.

Carl should lose money.

FYP!

Guru
11-22-2007, 05:05 AM
Carl should lose money.

FYP!

Carl should give US money for watching the train wreck.

course, now watch, these two unknown running backs will take the league by storm.

hermhater
11-22-2007, 05:08 AM
That would be nice to get money back from Carl.

Jackson County is paying for the Stadium upgrade, and the only thing we get back is no blackouts of the game.

Meh, kinda worth it.

Guru
11-22-2007, 05:13 AM
That would be nice to get money back from Carl.

Jackson County is paying for the Stadium upgrade, and the only thing we get back is no blackouts of the game.

Meh, kinda worth it.

I still think we will be seeing blackouts sooner rather than later.

hermhater
11-22-2007, 05:14 AM
That ain't cool man.

I got local only.

tornadospotter
11-22-2007, 10:15 AM
Carl should give US money for watching the train wreck.

course, now watch, these two unknown running backs will take the league by storm.
I am for that. Go Chiefs! :D

McLovin
11-22-2007, 11:54 AM
Carl should lose money.

FYP!
Dont be screwing with my posts, :lol:

I said Priest and I meant it, He had to have known he wasn't 100% and for some reason he convinced the org to trade Bennett and have him as the backup. Then a light hit and he gets hurt (I wish him luck, I dont like seeing him hurt, and was thinking that maybe he should have retired before this like right after the other injury, but he stayed around on Chiefs payroll for 2 years then came back. Talked the org into trading Bennett, all because of a dream. Priest has always done what he wanted. Didn't stay and support the team at any time during injury, didn't tell the org what he had planned or where he was at and what was going on. He was a great running back at one time, and he was great at leading the team WHEN he was in. But he was not a team player.

He should have retired months ago. Or even a couple years, I am happy he is able to walk and spend good quality time with his family, and I am glad he figured out that it was time, I just wish he would have figured out sooner.

Canada
11-22-2007, 03:52 PM
Dont be screwing with my posts, :lol:

I said Priest and I meant it, He had to have known he wasn't 100% and for some reason he convinced the org to trade Bennett and have him as the backup. Then a light hit and he gets hurt (I wish him luck, I dont like seeing him hurt, and was thinking that maybe he should have retired before this like right after the other injury, but he stayed around on Chiefs payroll for 2 years then came back. Talked the org into trading Bennett, all because of a dream. Priest has always done what he wanted. Didn't stay and support the team at any time during injury, didn't tell the org what he had planned or where he was at and what was going on. He was a great running back at one time, and he was great at leading the team WHEN he was in. But he was not a team player.

He should have retired months ago. Or even a couple years, I am happy he is able to walk and spend good quality time with his family, and I am glad he figured out that it was time, I just wish he would have figured out sooner.

So now we should not play people who are not 100%? There goes most of the NFL. I am curious how you know about all the things that Priest Holmes and the Chiefs discussed during his absence. Do you have some sort of insider telling you these things. Are you part of Chiefs management? Or does all this come up because you are such a huge LJ supporter and the only way to make LJ look good is to make Priest look bad?? It is OK to like both Priest and LJ. To say that Priest is not a team player may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say.

McLovin
11-24-2007, 12:45 AM
So now we should not play people who are not 100%? There goes most of the NFL. I am curious how you know about all the things that Priest Holmes and the Chiefs discussed during his absence. Do you have some sort of insider telling you these things. Are you part of Chiefs management? Or does all this come up because you are such a huge LJ supporter and the only way to make LJ look good is to make Priest look bad?? It is OK to like both Priest and LJ. To say that Priest is not a team player may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say.
No we shouldn't let someone who had was near paralyzed talk you into trading the backup because of a dream, especially when by all accounts he rarely talked to the Chiefs over the 2 years he was out. I love Priest and I think he belongs in the hall of fame, I just think he let his pride (or money I dont know the background) get the best of him, and made a mistake that cost the Chiefs dearly.

Best case scenario right now is if this debacle costs Herm - Carl - Solari or any combination of the three as long as it involves Herm, their job.

Enjoy your retirement Priest you earned it.

timsatt1
11-24-2007, 12:57 AM
No we shouldn't let someone who had was near paralyzed talk you into trading the backup because of a dream, especially when by all accounts he rarely talked to the Chiefs over the 2 years he was out. I love Priest and I think he belongs in the hall of fame, I just think he let his pride (or money I dont know the background) get the best of him, and made a mistake that cost the Chiefs dearly.

Best case scenario right now is if this debacle costs Herm - Carl - Solari or any combination of the three as long as it involves Herm, their job.

Enjoy your retirement Priest you earned it.

i dont even think priest made more money by coming back and playing. i could be wrong.

i personally think he came back because he thought he could impact the team positively.

...if only life worked out the way we plan it to. i think...although im not sure how old you are, you have lived life long enough to realize that life is extremely unpredictable.

...and with injuries, you don't know until you go out and try.

i am not getting upset with your opinion, it is simply that, an opinion.

...but my eyes see different than do yours.

...you are a big lj fan....is there some byast in your opinion??? lj and priest werent exactly the best of friends during their careers.

hermhater
11-24-2007, 02:12 AM
No we shouldn't let someone who had was near paralyzed talk you into trading the backup because of a dream, especially when by all accounts he rarely talked to the Chiefs over the 2 years he was out. I love Priest and I think he belongs in the hall of fame, I just think he let his pride (or money I dont know the background) get the best of him, and made a mistake that cost the Chiefs dearly.

Best case scenario right now is if this debacle costs Herm - Carl - Solari or any combination of the three as long as it involves Herm, their job.

Enjoy your retirement Priest you earned it.


I realize that Priest was hurt before, but if you will notice he was face masked in a violent way when he got injured on Sunday.

There was no flag. I haven't heard about any fines frm the NFL.

I wonder how much longer the bias will last.

NFL seems to want to just make the Chiefs go away.

Polleo Pit Man
11-24-2007, 02:21 AM
No we shouldn't let someone who had was near paralyzed talk you into trading the backup because of a dream, especially when by all accounts he rarely talked to the Chiefs over the 2 years he was out. I love Priest and I think he belongs in the hall of fame, I just think he let his pride (or money I dont know the background) get the best of him, and made a mistake that cost the Chiefs dearly.

Best case scenario right now is if this debacle costs Herm - Carl - Solari or any combination of the three as long as it involves Herm, their job.

Enjoy your retirement Priest you earned it.
How does Priest coming back have anything to do with our losing season? Trading Bennet was good reguardless. Bennet sucks, always has always will. I bet he gets hurt before the seasons end!

hermhater
11-24-2007, 02:29 AM
How does Priest coming back have anything to do with our losing season? Trading Bennet was good reguardless. Bennet sucks, always has always will. I bet he gets hurt before the seasons end!

Bullsh!t!

Bennet is pretty damn good.

And now we don't have him.

:mob:

Polleo Pit Man
11-24-2007, 02:47 AM
Bullsh!t!

Bennet is pretty damn good.

And now we don't have him.

:mob:

He's quick but look back through his career! He always gets HURT! Vikings, Saints, Chiefs....same thing

hermhater
11-24-2007, 02:50 AM
He's quick but look back through his career! He always gets HURT! Vikings, Saints, Chiefs....same thing

So are LJ and Priest...

:mob:

Polleo Pit Man
11-24-2007, 03:00 AM
So are LJ and Priest...

:mob:

This is the first time LJ has ever really been hurt. Priest is 34, but I figured if anyone could come back it was him. I am ok with Kolby until he shows me different.

hermhater
11-24-2007, 03:03 AM
My point was, any running back can get hurt.

McLovin
11-24-2007, 11:45 AM
i dont even think priest made more money by coming back and playing. i could be wrong.

i personally think he came back because he thought he could impact the team positively.

And I think he did. I also think is he could stay as something like a position coach, a player/coach (not on the roster, and not actually full contact stuff) something like that I think he could still make a huge impact.
Maybe the biggest impact he could make on the team he did in the determination to come back, although I think this was a mistake.

...if only life worked out the way we plan it to. i think...although im not sure how old you are, you have lived life long enough to realize that life is extremely unpredictable.

I believe that life is extremely predictable but I feel this injury was predictable, it was wishful thinking that Priest was healed.

...and with injuries, you don't know until you go out and try.

i am not getting upset with your opinion, it is simply that, an opinion.

...but my eyes see different than do yours.

...you are a big lj fan....is there some BIASED (Fixed your spelling again lol :lol:) in your opinion??? lj and priest werent exactly the best of friends during their careers.
No there is absolutely no bias in this, I love Priest, I just think that this was a poor choice and has cost the Chiefs, I am sure he wanted to return, but sometimes wanting something isn't enough and you have to think with your head not your heart. Priest will forever be one of the all time greats in my opinion. I just think he made one very poor decision, and I hope it doesn't affect his quality of life in the future.


Everyone seems to be taking this that I don't like Priest, I love Priest, but since he is alive to retire I feel that I can question his decision or his motives in this decision, I could very well be wrong, and I think that now he has made the right decision, but I do feel that he waited too long. I also feel like the big brother on this one, I would be very very protective if I was on another board and someone was bashing Priest. I just feel he made a bad decision.

Canada
11-24-2007, 12:59 PM
Everyone seems to be taking this that I don't like Priest, I love Priest, but since he is alive to retire I feel that I can question his decision or his motives in this decision, I could very well be wrong, and I think that now he has made the right decision, but I do feel that he waited too long. I also feel like the big brother on this one, I would be very very protective if I was on another board and someone was bashing Priest. I just feel he made a bad decision.

It just seems awfully easy for you to judge a situation that you so clearly don't understand. You said in a previous post that he was almost paralyzed. When did you become a doctor and why did you not inform Priest and all the doctors and neurologists who cleared him to play and tell them that he couldn't. If you know these things and did not share them, then I feel you have let this team and organization down by allowing us to get Priest back and get rid of Bennett and not letting us know that everyone was wrong. I feel if there is any finger pointing or blaming going on here then the whole situation is your fault as you have so clearly pointed out what no one else could possibly have known.

timsatt1
11-24-2007, 01:17 PM
It just seems awfully easy for you to judge a situation that you so clearly don't understand. You said in a previous post that he was almost paralyzed. When did you become a doctor and why did you not inform Priest and all the doctors and neurologists who cleared him to play and tell them that he couldn't. If you know these things and did not share them, then I feel you have let this team and organization down by allowing us to get Priest back and get rid of Bennett and not letting us know that everyone was wrong. I feel if there is any finger pointing or blaming going on here then the whole situation is your fault as you have so clearly pointed out what no one else could possibly have known.

so true.

...and now you make this post about Priest AFTER he is injured and retired. That is easy. It would be a whole nother story if you just made this long post WHILE HE WAS STILL PLAYING.

it is so easy to look in hind site and say how it should have been. Life is current, not past, so we only know what has happened, not what is going to happen.

It reminds me of the democrats that actually VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR how Bush made a huge mistake.

umm...duh. i mean we NOW know that it probably would have been better to not have invaded iraq. but that is easy to say 5 years after we invade.

but when we have a mad man not allowing us to check his country for WMDs and we think he may have some...well we have to do what we have to do based on what we know. so many dems voted for us to go in and given the scenerio AT THE TIME wasnt the worse idea in the world. We figured we would get in and get out.

....things just didnt go as planned...kind of like life. kind of like Priest's comeback.

had we gone into iraq and when bush announced our victory...it was truly over, we would be praising Bush saying what a great job he did!!

....had priest came back and lead us to the playoffs this year and had a good year next year before he retired we would have said WOW, THIS GUY WAS AMAZING FOR COMING BACK aND GETTING 2 more years in before he retired and really helped the CHIEFS!!!!!

and if that was the case then you wouldnt have come in here and posted what you did.

...but since what happened did happen and you see it in hindsight that it was a bad decision.....you come in here and tell us what we NOW already know...but didnt know then. and you didnt know then. you might have assumed. but you didnt know if priest wouldnt finish this year and also play all of next year, then retire. you didnt.

hermhater
11-24-2007, 02:25 PM
Comparing those two situations is asinine.















That is all.

McLovin
11-24-2007, 03:24 PM
so true.

...and now you make this post about Priest AFTER he is injured and retired. That is easy. It would be a whole nother story if you just made this long post WHILE HE WAS STILL PLAYING.

it is so easy to look in hind site and say how it should have been. Life is current, not past, so we only know what has happened, not what is going to happen.

It reminds me of the democrats that actually VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR how Bush made a huge mistake.

umm...duh. i mean we NOW know that it probably would have been better to not have invaded iraq. but that is easy to say 5 years after we invade.

but when we have a mad man not allowing us to check his country for WMDs and we think he may have some...well we have to do what we have to do based on what we know. so many dems voted for us to go in and given the scenerio AT THE TIME wasnt the worse idea in the world. We figured we would get in and get out.

....things just didnt go as planned...kind of like life. kind of like Priest's comeback.

had we gone into iraq and when bush announced our victory...it was truly over, we would be praising Bush saying what a great job he did!!

....had priest came back and lead us to the playoffs this year and had a good year next year before he retired we would have said WOW, THIS GUY WAS AMAZING FOR COMING BACK aND GETTING 2 more years in before he retired and really helped the CHIEFS!!!!!

and if that was the case then you wouldnt have come in here and posted what you did.

...but since what happened did happen and you see it in hindsight that it was a bad decision.....you come in here and tell us what we NOW already know...but didnt know then. and you didnt know then. you might have assumed. but you didnt know if priest wouldnt finish this year and also play all of next year, then retire. you didnt.

On this when Priest returned I had my doubts that he was 100% but didn't question it because the doctors cleared him to play, but yes looking in hindsight it does seem that Priest should have known, but I don't personally know Priest or anyone in the org, so I guess maybe he and everyone else thought he was really alright, although a lot on this board, a lot of analysts, and I am sure a lot in the org, felt it wasn't a good idea to return. This seems to me to prove the doubters correct. I also don't think Trent Green should not think of returning, I feel that this is a very similar situation, I loved them when they were playing and think they are among the best ever, but think for the good of the team they should not try to do what their bodies tell them they cant. Pride can be an awful thing, and money can be far worse. The competitive spirit that these players have to have in order to play at this level, can be a very bad thing when they are at a point that they should retire.

Canada
11-24-2007, 04:36 PM
On this when Priest returned I had my doubts that he was 100% but didn't question it because the doctors cleared him to play, but yes looking in hindsight it does seem that Priest should have known, but I don't personally know Priest or anyone in the org, so I guess maybe he and everyone else thought he was really alright, although a lot on this board, a lot of analysts, and I am sure a lot in the org, felt it wasn't a good idea to return. This seems to me to prove the doubters correct. I also don't think Trent Green should not think of returning, I feel that this is a very similar situation, I loved them when they were playing and think they are among the best ever, but think for the good of the team they should not try to do what their bodies tell them they cant. Pride can be an awful thing, and money can be far worse. The competitive spirit that these players have to have in order to play at this level, can be a very bad thing when they are at a point that they should retire.

Like I said....it is easy to be a doubter. Everyone likes to guess so that if their "guess" become reality they can say "I told ya so" "I knew this was gonna happen" I am "guessing" but you probably thought that an undrafted running back from Baltimore was a waste of time after his first few games. Look how that turned out and you don't hear a lot of those doubters saying he wan't the greatest running back in Chiefs history. His body told him o stop and he listened. Who are you to judge when he first heard his body tell him that it was time to hang 'em up.

timsatt1
11-24-2007, 07:43 PM
Comparing those two situations is asinine.















That is all.

yeah yeah, well i try to get a political debate going anytime i can. didnt work.