Chiefs plan to sign kicker John Carney

[Guru]

Chiefs plan to sign kicker John Carney

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star
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Kicker John Carney (right) has been around a while. Carney, 43, is third on the all-time field-goal list.


Determined to solve their field-goal problem, the Chiefs turned to one of the NFL’s most prolific kickers for help.

They planned today to sign 43-year-old John Carney, who is third on the NFL’s all-time field-goal list. Carney began his NFL career with Tampa Bay in 1988 and has also kicked for the LA Rams, Chargers, Saints and, earlier this year, Jaguars.


Carney was one of three kickers the Chiefs worked out on Monday to replace Dave Rayner, whom they plan to release. The others were Billy Cundiff, who has kicked in previous seasons with the Cowboys and Saints and went to camp this year with the Falcons, and Nick Novak, who also worked out for the Chiefs in September when they signed Rayner.


Cundiff also remained in Kansas City on Monday night.
The Chiefs had discussed signing Cundiff as well and using him to kick off but apparently hadn’t made a final decision.


Kickoffs and field-goal range are concerns teams have had with Carney, but not his accuracy from closer distances. He made nine of his 11 field-goal attempts this season with Jacksonville, where he was an injury replacement.


His longest successful kick was 41 yards. He made a 20-yarder in a game against the Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium in October but missed a 48-yard try.


Rayner made 15 of 22 field-goal attempts this season after joining the Chiefs for the season’s second game.
He missed four of his last six tries, including two in a three-point loss to Indianapolis two weeks ago and a 33-yarder in Sunday’s 20-17 loss to Oakland.


Coach Herm Edwards passed on having Rayner try a potential game-tying, 41-yard field goal in the final minutes.

[Guru]

OK, I don't like this move at all. We are having a youth movement right? Seems like we keep getting older.

[hermhater]

This is another desperate attempt by Herm to put a band aid on the severed jugular.

I hate friggin' HERM!!!!

[Guru]

This is another desperate attempt by Herm to put a band aid on the severed jugular.

I hate friggin' HERM!!!!

Hey, it is what the Chiefs do best.

Get the hell out CARL!!!

[hermhater]

Hey, it is what the Chiefs do best.

Get the hell out CARL!!!


What exactly is it that Carl has on Clark, tammietailgator?

Spill the beans...

We will take it upon ourselves to blackmail Carl out of KC once and for all.

[Guru]

What exactly is it that Carl has on Clark, tammietailgator?

Spill the beans...

We will take it upon ourselves to blackmail Carl out of KC once and for all.
We need to sick Fred Phelps on him.

I saw a great idea elsewhere. Somebody stick a for sale sign in Herm's yard.

[Chiefster]

Agreed with most of what you guys have said! None of this is an issue had we just held on to Tynes; he may have been a bit inconsistent but he was getting better IMO.

[hermhater]

We need to sick Fred Phelps on him.

I saw a great idea elsewhere. Somebody stick a for sale sign in Herm's forehead.


FYR!

:mob:

[Chiefster]

We need to sick Fred Phelps on him.

I saw a great idea elsewhere. Somebody stick a for sale sign in Herm's yard.

Heh!:lol:

Well it wouldn't do any good for King Carl to fire him on the internet; Herm doesn't have it.

[Guru]

FYR!

:mob:

I am not sure he would get it.

Plus, people will pay for the house. Not him.

[hermhater]

Agreed with most of what you guys have said! None of this is an issue had we just held on to Tynes; he may have been a bit inconsistent but he was getting better IMO.

Eggsactly and all...

My GF's sister is an NICU nurse and helped out with Tynes babies a few month ago.

She asked him why he was leaving, and he kind of shrugged, and said I will be back, hopefully.

That was bizarre that they let him go.

I thought he won quite a few games for us.

[Chiefster]

Eggsactly and all...

My GF's sister is an NICU nurse and helped out with Tynes babies a few month ago.

She asked him why he was leaving, and he kind of shrugged, and said I will be back, hopefully.

That was bizarre that they let him go.

I thought he won quite a few games for us.

I thought so too.

[hermhater]

We need to sick Fred Phelps on him.

I saw a great idea elsewhere. Somebody stick a for sale sign in Herm's yard.


FYR!

:mob:


I am not sure he would get it.

Plus, people will pay for the house. Not him.


Oh, I didn't mean a sticker on Herm's forehead, I meant a Real Estate For Sale sign actually implanted into his forehead!

That would end this misery!

:D

[tornadospotter]

OK, I don't like this move at all. We are having a youth movement right? Seems like we keep getting older.
Well if we are going for age, lets bring Nick Lowery out of retirement! :wheelchair:

[Chiefster]

Oh, I didn't mean a sticker on Herm's forehead, I meant a Real Estate For Sale sign actually implanted into his forehead!

That would end this misery!

:D

I think Guru got it the first time. :D

[Guru]

Oh, I didn't mean a sticker on Herm's forehead, I meant a Real Estate For Sale sign actually implanted into his forehead!

That would end this misery!

:D

I knew exactly what you meant.

[hermhater]

I think Guru got it the first time. :D


I knew exactly what you meant.

My bad!

:bananen_smilies046:

[hermhater]

Chiefs reach deal with 18-year veteran Carney

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
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Updated: November 27, 2007, 11:31 AM ET

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In their latest attempt to remedy a kicking problem that has affected coach Herm Edwards' in-game decisions, the Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan) have reached a contract agreement with 18-year veteran placement specialist John Carney (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=549).
Carney, 43, will become the third different kicker for the Chiefs this season.
The fourth-leading scorer in NFL history, with 1,796 points, Carney was one of three free agent kickers auditioned on Monday by Kansas City officials, joining Billy Cundiff (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6154) and Nick Novak (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7505). The Chiefs are replacing third-year veteran Dave Rayner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7378), who converted 15 of 22 field goal tries and all 14 extra point attempts in 10 games this season.
But Rayner made just five of eight field goals from 40 yards or more and, in the fourth quarter of last Sunday's loss to the Oakland Raiders (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak), he was wide left on a 33-yard attempt. Later in the quarter, Edwards eschewed what would have been a 41-yard try, and instead tried to convert on fourth-and-one from the Oakland 23-yard line. Rookie tailback Kolby Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=8402) was stopped for a loss of one yard.
Rookie Justin Medlock (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=8414), a fifth-round draft choice, opened the season as the Kansas City kicker. But after struggling in training camp, and making just one of two tries in the season opener, Medlock was released and the Chiefs signed Rayner to replace him. Rayner had been cut by Green Bay, where he made 26 of 35 field goals in 2006.
Carney was released by New Orleans this spring after six seasons with the team, following a trade that brought the Saints former Miami standout kicker Olindo Mare (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3888). But Carney was subsequently signed by Jacksonville when incumbent Josh Scobee (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6896) suffered a quadriceps injury. In eight games with the Jaguars, Carney made nine of 11 field goals and 20 of 21 extra points, for 47 points.
For his career, Carney has converted 422 of 516 field goal attempts and 530 of 538 extra point attempts. The former Notre Dame standout has scored 100 or more points in 10 different seasons. Carney has appeared in 258 games with Tampa Bay (1988), San Diego (1990-2000), New Orleans (2001-2006), and Jacksonville (2007).
Details of the contract Carney will sign in Kansas City were not immediately available.
Len Pasquarelli covers the NFL for ESPN.com.




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[Chiefster]

Well if we are going for age, lets bring Nick Lowery out of retirement! :wheelchair:

I'll bet Nick-the kick-Lowery could still put these young whippersnappers to shame!

:yahoo:

[hermhater]

I went to Nick's house. He is an ***.

That crap about slapping the ball boy, still ticks me off.

[Canada]

I went to Nick's house. He is an ***.

That crap about slapping the ball boy, still ticks me off.

I went to your house....you are an ***!! :bananen_smilies046:

[hermhater]

I went to your house....you are an ***!! :bananen_smilies046:

Good point!

Plus I am too scared to even think of slapping a ball boy!

:bananen_smilies046:

[Canada]

Good point!

Plus I am too scared to even think of slapping a ball boy!

:bananen_smilies046:

I thought you were the ball boy!!

[Chiefster]

I went to your house....you are an ***!! :bananen_smilies046:


:lol::lol:

Alright I have to draw the line when Chiefs fans start accusing one another of being associated in any way to the donks! :D
j/k

[Canada]

:lol::lol:

Alright I have to draw the line when Chiefs fans start accusing one another of being associated in any way to the donks! :D
j/k

:lol: :bananen_smilies046:

[hermhater]

:lol::lol:

Alright I have to draw the line when Chiefs fans start accusing one another of being associated in any way to the donks! :D
j/k

Nice!

:yahoo: :lol:

[Chiefster]

Thought you two would like...:D

[anaeelbackwards]

i just dont get it. i really dont.


first we draft a young player to develop and to kick field goals. then we release him

we sign rayner to kick field goals, he miss some crucial ones, and he's out the door.

now we sign old man carney. sure he might be good, but damn he's old. if we were lookin for old-timer we should of just took a jersey and slapped it on ol'man chiefster:11: and wheelchaired his butt out to kick field goals... probably coulda of got him to do it for free, who knows... im just jokin chiefster :wheelchair:

but ****..... we went from youngster rookie, experienced, and to the nursing home in a season, and its not even the end yet....

[hermhater]

i just dont get it. i really dont.


first we draft a young player to develop and to kick field goals. then we release him

we sign rayner to kick field goals, he miss some crucial ones, and he's out the door.

now we sign old man carney. sure he might be good, but damn he's old. if we were lookin for old-timer we should of just took a jersey and slapped it on ol'man chiefster:11: and wheelchaired his butt out to kick field goals... probably coulda of got him to do it for free, who knows... im just jokin chiefster :wheelchair:

but ****..... we went from youngster rookie, experienced, and to the nursing home in a season, and its not even the end yet....

I'm about to post Herm's Press Conference on the site.

Listen to him squirm about his decision making abilities.

One of the best times is when he is trying to explain away his abysmal decision to skip Mason Crosby.

Herm is a moron.

[Coach]

OK, I don't like this move at all. We are having a youth movement right? Seems like we keep getting older.

So would you have preferred the Chiefs to just keep Rayner?

Now I'm wondering if the Chiefs will use another draft pick on a kicker.

[anaeelbackwards]

So would you have preferred the Chiefs to just keep Rayner?

Now I'm wondering if the Chiefs will use another draft pick on a kicker.

i would of preferred to keep medlock. i hear he is still unsigned, we should atleast try and get him back. it was just to early for him.

[Canada]

i would of preferred to keep medlock. i hear he is still unsigned, we should atleast try and get him back. it was just to early for him.

I got nothing goin on next weekend if they want to give me a shot!!



Edit I could not kick a field goal to save my life!!

[Coach]

OK, I don't like this move at all. We are having a youth movement right? Seems like we keep getting older.



Edit I could not kick a field goal to save my life!!

Neither could Rayner.

I'd be willing to learn for the league minimum.

[Canada]

Neither could Rayner.

I'd be willing to learn for the league minimum.

But how old are you??

[Coach]

But how old are you??

34. That's means I've got 9 good years left in me by Carney's standards.

[Canada]

34. That's means I've got 9 good years left in me by Carney's standards.

:lol:

[anaeelbackwards]

i thought carney was only 40?

atleast your not morten anderson old

whats up with us gettin the old fellas?

[Canada]

i thought carney was only 40?

atleast your not morten anderson old

whats up with us gettin the old fellas?

I prefer to call it "experienced" :lol: ....besides....it makes the young guys look really young!!

[Coach]

i thought carney was only 40?

atleast your not morten anderson old

whats up with us gettin the old fellas?

43
http://www.nfl.com/players/johncarney/profile?id=CAR243867

[DrunkHillbilly]

I think he may be the all time most accurate kicker??????

[Canada]

I think he may be the all time most accurate kicker??????

ahhhh....the voice of negativity!! We suck!! :bananen_smilies046:

[Coach]

I think he may be the all time most accurate kicker??????

No question about his accuracy. His distance and kickoff ability are the major concerns. Get ready to see a lot of kickoffs being received at the 15-20 yrd line.

[hermhater]

No question about his accuracy. His distance and kickoff ability are the major concerns. Get ready to see a lot of kickoffs being received at the 15-20 yrd line.


Gilbert Harris stunk up the field on every play Sunday.
Should have kept Rayner for kickoffs, and ditched Gilbert, he sucked.

[wolfpack]

Gilbert Harris stunk up the field on every play Sunday.
Should have kept Rayner for kickoffs, and ditched Gilbert, he sucked.
just have brodie knee on the ball for three downs. its about as exciting as watching herm`s play calling.

[hermhater]

just have brodie knee on the ball for three downs. its about as exciting as watching herm`s play calling.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Sad but true!

[McLovin]

I think he may be the all time most accurate kicker??????

I thought Vanderjagt was, and he is available, He is younger (Old but still younger), He has a better range, and the Chiefs have never even talked to him. Wonder what Dingy told his buddy Herm bout him.

Herm Sucks.

[Polleo Pit Man]

Was Rayners dad a kicker? Just wonderin he could be an option? j/k

[DrunkHillbilly]

ahhhh....the voice of negativity!! We suck!! :bananen_smilies046:
Can you believe all the negativity here Canada? Terrible! Put on your magical rosey glasses and do something for god's sake! Oh, don't forget the head paint!

[DrunkHillbilly]

I thought Vanderjagt was, and he is available, He is younger (Old but still younger), He has a better range, and the Chiefs have never even talked to him. Wonder what Dingy told his buddy Herm bout him.

Herm Sucks.
I think statistically Carney is just because of how long he's been around but I'm not sure.

Your right though, why didn't we even look at Vandy???? I wonder if he wants to even play anymore?

[Canada]

Can you believe all the negativity here Canada? Terrible! Put on your magical rosey glasses and do something for god's sake! Oh, don't forget the head paint!

I only paint my head because I want to be as big a fan as you are, and have lots of money and OWN lots of bars. You are the man cool guy...we are all just strivin to be like you!! :bananen_smilies046:

[DrunkHillbilly]

Great!!!! You'll be a better person for it!! Good Luck!

Man, signing that kicker was a good thing right? Come on, where's the positive side of things this mornin?? It's a great day!

[Canada]

Great!!!! You'll be a better person for it!! Good Luck!

Man, signing that kicker was a good thing right? Come on, where's the positive side of things this mornin?? It's a great day!

The positive side this morning??? I am still a Chiefs fan...hey I saw a site you might like....raiderschat.com. Why don't you go there, somone might actually like you. :bananen_smilies046: bye now!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

The positive side this morning??? I am still a Chiefs fan...hey I saw a site you might like....raiderschat.com. Why don't you go there, somone might actually like you. :bananen_smilies046: bye now!!
OK buddy have a great day!!!! Don't get the blood pressure cuff too tight like some of the other nurses do!!

[Canada]

OK buddy have a great day!!!! Don't get the blood pressure cuff too tight like some of the other nurses do!!

I meant to ask why u are up so early....feedin the pigs?? Or are you changing the kegs and doin the dishes before the morning drunks show up??

[DrunkHillbilly]

I'm always up this early! Gotta start drinkin!!

The pigs cleaned the dishes before they met the meat man!

Are you sometimes referred to as a Candy Striper by the rest of the old lady's?

[Canada]

I'm always up this early! Gotta start drinkin!!

The pigs cleaned the dishes before they met the meat man!

Are you sometimes referred to as a Candy Striper by the rest of the old lady's?

I am just glad that you are so comfortable doing dishes and serving drinks to men. Glad to see you are so liberated!! :bananen_smilies046: Now get me a beer *****!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

I am just glad that you are so comfortable doing dishes and serving drinks to men. Glad to see you are so liberated!! :bananen_smilies046: Now get me a beer *****!!
They tip just as well as you women do! Oh yea, we don't serve Old Style at any of my bars! Sorry!

[Canada]

They tip just as well as you women do! Oh yea, we don't serve Old Style at any of my bars! Sorry!

Maybe u shoulda just stayed quiet on that one. Anyways....where's my beer *****?? :beer:

[Canada]

They tip just as well as you women do! Oh yea, we don't serve Old Style at any of my bars! Sorry!

I like that you are so comitted to "owning bars" lol. Keep them dishes clean boy!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

Maybe u shoulda just stayed quiet on that one. Anyways....where's my beer *****?? :beer:
Why?

[Canada]

Why?

mostly cause no on e wants to hear fro you!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

I like that you are so comitted to "owning bars" lol. Keep them dishes clean boy!!
It does wonders when your in the real estate business!!

Also nice to not have to report to work like most of the world. Come on down some time, I'll be sure to get a couple cases of whatever gut rott you drink!

[McLovin]

mostly cause no on e wants to hear fro you!!
No that would be because you don't want to hear from him, other then the times you two are fighting like little girls, I find his opinions valid.
Speak for yourself.

[DrunkHillbilly]

mostly cause no on e wants to hear fro you!!
You ever thought about starting up a motivational/positivity business? You provide the paint and everybody could sit around and sing Cumbaya!

[DrunkHillbilly]

No that would be because you don't want to hear from him, other then the times you two are fighting like little girls, I find his opinions valid.
Speak for yourself.
Thanks B shizzle!!! He's just havin a bad day! :D

[Canada]

Not having a bad day at all, quite the opposite actually. This is what you wanted is it not?? You start calling me out and then bash my opinions and start in on the personal attacks. Glad that is what you and Bryon want to turn this site into. I guess you have not driven away enough good members, but at least bryon is still here. Hey b shizzle....got any pics you can post in the faces and names thread??

[Canada]

It does wonders when your in the real estate business!!

Also nice to not have to report to work like most of the world. Come on down some time, I'll be sure to get a couple cases of whatever gut rott you drink!

Man, you have the life....show up and wash dishes on your own schedule....and you can afford a case of beer. Livin double wide has its perks i guess!! :bananen_smilies046:

[DrunkHillbilly]

Anything is possible in the good ole U S A!!!

[Canada]

It would appear so.

[kcchiefsfan]

Whatever should be done to help should be done... I guess.. .(?)

[Canada]

Whatever should be done to help should be done... I guess.. .(?)

Aww, you have to get to know hillbilly. He makes himself feel good by pashing people and telling us how much money he makes and how many bars he owns. In reality him and bryon just sit out on the porches of their double wides and wish they were me!! :bananen_smilies046:

[DrunkHillbilly]

Aww, you have to get to know hillbilly. He makes himself feel good by pashing people and telling us how much money he makes and how many bars he owns. In reality him and bryon just sit out on the porches of their double wides and wish they were me!! :bananen_smilies046:
Do you know how much money I make or how many bars I own?? I only think one person here knows how many I own and nobody knows how much money I make. Trust me, it's not that much. A dishwasher only makes minimum wage in these parts.

I don't own enough paint to be you!!! I'll pash you whenever I want LOL!!!

Question.....

Would you rather have a million dollars or Canada's head full of nickles??????

[Canada]

Do you know how much money I make or how many bars I own?? I only think one person here knows how many I own and nobody knows how much money I make. Trust me, it's not that much. A dishwasher only makes minimum wage in these parts.

I don't own enough paint to be you!!! I'll pash you whenever I want LOL!!!

Question.....

Would you rather have a million dollars or Canada's head full of nickles??????

Oh plese don't pash me!!

Head full of nickles?? That is a good one. Do you have a book of funny jokes there beside your computer cause that one was gold...head full of nickles!! hahaha That is AWESOME!! :iamwithstupid:

[Canada]

Do you know how much money I make or how many bars I own?? I only think one person here knows how many I own and nobody knows how much money I make. Trust me, it's not that much. A dishwasher only makes minimum wage in these parts.

I don't own enough paint to be you!!! I'll pash you whenever I want LOL!!!

Question.....

Would you rather have a million dollars or Canada's head full of nickles??????

boy you sure do hate FANS of the team don't you!! And the first question....i don't care how much you make and probably none.

[DrunkHillbilly]

Oh plese don't pash me!!

Head full of nickles?? That is a good one. Do you have a book of funny jokes there beside your computer cause that one was gold...head full of nickles!! hahaha That is AWESOME!! :iamwithstupid:
That's a great word you created!!! Pashing!! I'm gonna use that!

I just thought of that joke after looking at your picture! WOW!!!

How are the Chiefs going to do this week?

[DrunkHillbilly]

boy you sure do hate FANS of the team don't you!! And the first question....i don't care how much you make and probably none.
Last time I checked we didn't all paint our heads!

[Canada]

That's a great word you created!!! Pashing!! I'm gonna use that!

I just thought of that joke after looking at your picture! WOW!!!

How are the Chiefs going to do this week?

That is awesome....i get it....u made fun of a spelling mistake!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha That is hilarious!! Are you sure you don't do any part time stand up comedy?? Chiefs are gonna win. I like to cheer for my team, but then I am a Chiefs fan so I do that. It is a wierd thing to cheer for your favorite team. You really should try it. Feels good.

[Canada]

Last time I checked we didn't all paint our heads!

ohhhhhh.....so now you are a fan??

[DrunkHillbilly]

ohhhhhh.....so now you are a fan??
I spell things wrong all the time bud. It's ok.

Look, we can't all be as dedicated as you but we try! Your a joke!!!:funnypost:

[Canada]

I spell things wrong all the time bud. It's ok.

Look, we can't all be as dedicated as you but we try! Your a joke!!!:funnypost:

There is always room for the casual fan who only likes the team when they are winning. :bananen_smilies046:

[DrunkHillbilly]

There is always room for the casual fan who only likes the team when they are winning. :bananen_smilies046:
Will that be any time in the near future?

[Canada]

Will that be any time in the near future?

Sunday!! :bananen_smilies046:

[DrunkHillbilly]

Sunday!! :bananen_smilies046:
I should have known. Is that a guarantee??

[Canada]

I should have known. Is that a guarantee??

I think you know that there is no such thing as a guarantee. You know....any given Sunday and all that!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

I think you know that there is no such thing as a guarantee. You know....any given Sunday and all that!!
Should I be questioning your fanhood in front of the ladies?

[Canada]

Should I be questioning your fanhood in front of the ladies?

:lol:

[Canada]

sooo.....what do you want to fight about next?

[DrunkHillbilly]

sooo.....what do you want to fight about next?
Politics?

[Canada]

Politics?

I don't like George's Bush!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

I don't like George's Bush!!
Who does?

[Chiefster]

Should I be questioning your fanhood in front of the ladies?


Ladies???

hermhater isn't here right now. :D

[sling58]

I hope Carney helps us NOT lose games.....

[Chiefster]

I hope Carney helps us NOT lose games.....


That's what Herm has been trying to do; it hasn't worked out so well.

[hermhater]

Should I be questioning your fanhood in front of the ladies?


Ladies???

hermhater isn't here right now. :D

:lol:

Don't encourage that behaviour.

Bad Chiefster, bad Canada!



:lol:

[greg3564]

Why are the Chiefs even bothering with a new kicker? We're 4-7 and totally out of playoff contention and we're just now signing a new kicker? Save your money and let Rayner seal the coffin on the rest of his career until the season is over. Then go and get a real kicker under the age of 30. Carney isn't going to do squat. He's strictly a feel good stop gap measure. The front office is just trying to cut down on the booing for the televised games.

[hermhater]

Why are the Chiefs even bothering with a new kicker? We're 4-7 and totally out of playoff contention and we're just now signing a new kicker? Save your money and let Rayner seal the coffin on the rest of his career until the season is over. Then go and get a real kicker under the age of 30. Carney isn't going to do squat. He's strictly a feel good stop gap measure. The front office is just trying to cut down on the booing for the televised games.


Herm can't smell talent when it farts in his face.



We are not out of any play off race at this moment.

If we lose this week then we start talking rebuilding.

[tammietailgator]

Herm can't smell talent when it farts in his face.



We are not out of any play off race at this moment.

If we lose this week then we start talking rebuilding.
and the only reason that we are still in contention is because our whole division sucks

[McLovin]

Why are the Chiefs even bothering with a new kicker? We're 4-7 and totally out of playoff contention and we're just now signing a new kicker? Save your money and let Rayner seal the coffin on the rest of his career until the season is over. Then go and get a real kicker under the age of 30. Carney isn't going to do squat. He's strictly a feel good stop gap measure. The front office is just trying to cut down on the booing for the televised games.
Or maybe go back to Medlock and see if he is really good or if he sucks as bad as he looked, He may end up a great kicker with some more experience, (Rayner may also but man he is sucking it up and he isnt a rookie) Carney does nothing for the team, he isn't the future and he doesn't have the leg to kick the 50+ just another way for Herm to give up.

Somehow I doubt this will quiet the booing, fire Herm if you want to quiet the booing.

[tornadospotter]

Or maybe go back to Medlock and see if he is really good or if he sucks as bad as he looked, He may end up a great kicker with some more experience, (Rayner may also but man he is sucking it up and he isnt a rookie) Carney does nothing for the team, he isn't the future and he doesn't have the leg to kick the 50+ just another way for Herm to give up.

Somehow I doubt this will quiet the booing, fire Herm if you want to quiet the booing.
We should bring Medlock back to the team to get some time to develope, same could be said about Rayner, at least keep him for kick offs.

[Canada]

:lol:

Don't encourage that behaviour.

Bad Chiefster, bad Canada!



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[hermhater]

Kiss my a$$ HH





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:bananen_smilies046:

Are you watching this absolutely friggin' awesome game?

I got NFL network tonight, and it it freakin' awesome!!!!

:bananen_smilies046:

[tornadospotter]

Whats the Score HH?

[Chiefster]

Whats the Score HH?

Yeah, score please!

[tornadospotter]

Yeah, score please!
Give us your end game recap.

[Chiefster]

Give us the your end game recap.

What he said.

[hermhater]

This was an awesome game! Dallas wins it!

I wanted GB to win but Favre got hurt and somehow the backup kept them in it!

The play calling at the end of the game by GB was ridiculous!! I think Herm was calling in the plays!!!

[tornadospotter]

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/ (http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2007/11/26/22/335-Sp1127Carney_11-27-2007_B7VT4FU.standalone.prod_affiliate.81.jpg)


That pic kinda makes you glad they have face mask on helmets these days! Cause I'd hate to see grown men kissing! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :lol: :11:

[tornadospotter]

This was an awesome game! Dallas wins it!

I wanted GB to win but Favre got hurt and somehow the backup kept them in it!

The play calling at the end of the game by GB was ridiculous!! I think Herm was calling in the plays!!!
Whats Favre status, how bad was he hurt.

[greg3564]

and the only reason that we are still in contention is because our whole division sucks

What are we in contention for? The AFC West? The playoffs? Hahahahaha!! I think we're in contention for who finishes last in the West right now. Those "lowly" Raiders are one game behind us in last place!

Oh puhleease! We're 4-7 and I have not seen the Chiefs on any list for even a wildcard, let alone winning the West. Even if, and I mean a big if, the Chiefs won the West and got in the playoffs what then? We got walloped on the road with another embarrasing playoff loss. The last time we lost 23-8 and that was with a offense that could actually do something and wasn't ranked 30th.

Here ya go-

NFL AFC Playoff Seed
1 y-New England (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/NE)11-0
2 Indianapolis (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/IND)9-2
3 Pittsburgh (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/PIT)8-3
4San Diego (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/SD)6-5
5 Jacksonville (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/JAC)8-3
6 Cleveland (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/CLE)7-4

Top six teams qualify
7 Tennessee (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN)6-5
8Denver (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/DEN)5-6
9 Buffalo (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BUF)5-6
10 Houston (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/HOU)5-6
11 Kansas City (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/KC)4-7
12 Cincinnati (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/CIN)4-7
13 Baltimore (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL)4-7
14 Oakland (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/OAK)3-8
15 N.Y. Jets (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ)2-9

Eliminated
16 Miami (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA)0-11

[Guru]

And Herm thought Medlock was better than Crosby.

[Chiefster]

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/ (http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2007/11/26/22/335-Sp1127Carney_11-27-2007_B7VT4FU.standalone.prod_affiliate.81.jpg)


That pic kinda makes you glad they have face mask on helmets these days! Cause I'd hate to see grown men kissing! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :lol: :11:

Heh!:lol:

[tammietailgator]

What are we in contention for? The AFC West? The playoffs? Hahahahaha!! I think we're in contention for who finishes last in the West right now. Those "lowly" Raiders are one game behind us in last place!

Oh puhleease! We're 4-7 and I have not seen the Chiefs on any list for even a wildcard, let alone winning the West. Even if, and I mean a big if, the Chiefs won the West and got in the playoffs what then? We got walloped on the road with another embarrasing playoff loss. The last time we lost 23-8 and that was with a offense that could actually do something and wasn't ranked 30th.

Here ya go-

NFL AFC Playoff Seed
1 y-New England (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/NE)11-0
2 Indianapolis (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/IND)9-2
3 Pittsburgh (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/PIT)8-3
4San Diego (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/SD)6-5
5 Jacksonville (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/JAC)8-3
6 Cleveland (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/CLE)7-4

Top six teams qualify
7 Tennessee (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN)6-5
8Denver (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/DEN)5-6
9 Buffalo (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BUF)5-6
10 Houston (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/HOU)5-6
11 Kansas City (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/KC)4-7
12 Cincinnati (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/CIN)4-7
13 Baltimore (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL)4-7
14 Oakland (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/OAK)3-8
15 N.Y. Jets (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ)2-9

Eliminated
16 Miami (http://sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA)0-11
List's smist's - if all the stars lined up just right, and some of the teams result in spontaneous combustion - It could still happen!!!!
And then you, my friend will be eating crow!!

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[rbedgood]

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Careful Canada...that's just the invitation that cat-loving freak has been waiting for.

[Chiefster]

Careful Canada...that's just the invitation that cat-loving freak has been waiting for.

No doubt!
:mob:

[hermhater]

Careful Canada...that's just the invitation that cat-loving freak has been waiting for.


No doubt!
:mob:

I only like having two cats.

Four seems like a feline zoo.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h278/yakuza_II/BatCountry.jpg

[hermhater]

Go Chiefs!