New England Patriots

[chief31]

16-0? Who will beat them? How far will this thing go?

[hermhater]

I'll take those odds!

Thanks chief31!

[m0ef0e]

Miami ruins their perfect season and gets their first win at the same time-- poetic justice.

[chief31]

Miami ruins their perfect season and gets their first win at the same time-- poetic justice.


I like that idea. I want to see the Pats reach 15-0, then pull the starters and lose. Let the '72 Dolphins celebrate that for awhile.

"Woo-hoo!!! We are the only team to ever do it! Hooray for us!!" I think that would take alot of the fizz out of their annual champagne party.

[hermhater]

The bet depends on who might get covered more.

Double team doesn't do it for the Brady-Moss combo.

Welcher could have another great day.

[prough91]

The bet depends on who might get covered more.

Double team doesn't do it for the Brady-Moss combo.

Welcher could have another great day.

Welker
:beer:

[Guru]

Undefeated season doesn't count if they lose the SB. At least, that is what Miami will say.

[DrunkHillbilly]

Undefeated season doesn't count if they lose the SB. At least, that is what Miami will say.
If they go to the SB, won't they have already beaten the Dolphin's record? 18 wins as opposed to 17?

[Guru]

If they go to the SB, won't they have already beaten the Dolphin's record? 18 wins as opposed to 17?
17-0 is still greater than 18-1

[Coach]

If they go to the superbowl, they won't be losing. They are more likely to lose in the AFC playoffs.

[Chiefster]

If they go to the superbowl, they won't be losing. They are more likely to lose in the AFC playoffs.

I don't know that the Colts can beat 'em this year, but you could be right.

[prough91]

I don't know that the Colts can beat 'em this year, but you could be right.

Colt-Patriots game should be a very fun game to watch.

[rbedgood]

Just someone beat them. It serves multiple purposes. First of all Bellicheck needs to lose...he's an a$$. Secondly it makes the '72 Dolphins go away until next year. Also my neighbor is a Patriots fan, ugh make the noise stop.

[Guru]

Just someone beat them. It serves multiple purposes. First of all Bellicheck needs to lose...he's an a$$. Secondly it makes the '72 Dolphins go away until next year. Also my neighbor is a Patriots fan, ugh make the noise stop.

BUT..... I don't want to hear about the 72 Dolphins EVER AGAIN.

I would just as soon the Pats pull this off. I know the Dolphins will still claim the "greatest" title because of the friggin * the Pats will have though.

Todays Pats would DESTROY the 72 dolphins in every simulation they could come up with.

[rbedgood]

Yeah, but almost any team from today would destroy the 1972 Dolphins...the game has changed, nutrition & training have a much larger role, and the caliber of athletes at all positions has increased logarithmically.

[Guru]

I get so sick of hearing about the 72 Dolphins popping their champagne every damn year. It is like all the announcers are drinking with them.

[anaeelbackwards]

i wouldn't be surprised if they lose in these upcoming games

i also wouldn't be surprised to see them go down in the afc playoffs either

but now would be the greatest time to catch them, they are in pursuit of that perfect season and what would be better than to see them not get it? i definitely dont want to see them get it, i have no idea why i dont like the patriots, dont ask, i just dont.

who do they have left? im not sure..... i think they have teams with losing records, not sure.....

[prough91]

I'd like to see the Patriots win out for one reason, and one reason alone. How often do you get to see history in the making?

[rbedgood]

Ummm, I'd actually like to see the 49ers win out...not just because I'm a 49ers fan, but also because these same Patriots have the 49ers 1st round pick next year (currently #2 or #3 not sure on tiebreakers)

[hermhater]

It would be especially nice to see Mangino and the Jets give them a loss!

[nigeriannightmare]

Yeah, but almost any team from today would destroy the 1972 Dolphins...the game has changed, nutrition & training have a much larger role, and the caliber of athletes at all positions has increased logarithmically.

Depends on which rule book you are using. I would imagine if you played by 1972 standards there weren't all that many penalties, especially in regards to protecting the quarterback, they played ruthless back then, not that they don't now, but they couldn't do those things now.

[IlovetheChiefs]

As the old saying goes, any given sunday....

Cliched, but true. The Pats almost lost to the 6-8 Eagles, the 4-10 Ravens, and beat the 3-11 Jets 20-10. And were losing to the Colts 20-10 in the 4th quarter. They can be had.

I'd love to see Miami take em' this Sunday but wouldn't predict that. I have a feeling the Pats will go 16-0, make it to the Super Bowl (but that's no given by any means) and then lose to Green Bay. Brett Favre is having the kind of year where I can see him and his team taking it all.

Can't stand that arrogant Belichick. Hope his team goes down. Besides, they've won enough this decade!

[prough91]

Depends on which rule book you are using. I would imagine if you played by 1972 standards there weren't all that many penalties, especially in regards to protecting the quarterback, they played ruthless back then, not that they don't now, but they couldn't do those things now.

I agree to a certain extent, but look at the average weight of the offensive line men now compared to then, that right there would give a team, IMO, a huge advantage.

[rbedgood]

Nigeriannightmare,

The rulebook issue is a point, beyond the QB, more important would be pass interference and holding calls (or lack thereof), additionally chop blocks, horsecollar tackles, facemasks and other penalties either didn't exist or were virtually never called in the 70s.

However beyond the weight issue that is mentioned, also to be considered should be the speed, height and general athleticism of the players not only at the skill positions, but on both lines and on special teams.

I'm sorry, but I'd put up this years struggling Chiefs against the 72 Dolphins and expect the current players to outperform the previous era.

What the Dolphins did was special...VERY SPEciAL...but to suggest that their players who didn't train year around, didn't have the advantage of sports nutrition, and the technology of today, and didn't have coaching staffs and trainers of today's standards to keep up with todays athlete is just absurd.

[nigeriannightmare]

I agree to a certain extent, but look at the average weight of the offensive line men now compared to then, that right there would give a team, IMO, a huge advantage.

True, true...but highlight reals from that era are insane. They weren't called the purple people eater for nothing...

[hermhater]

True, true...but highlight reals from that era are insane. They weren't called the purple people eater for nothing...


Hence the need for the massive O linemen we see today!

:D

[nigeriannightmare]

Nigeriannightmare,

The rulebook issue is a point, beyond the QB, more important would be pass interference and holding calls (or lack thereof), additionally chop blocks, horsecollar tackles, facemasks and other penalties either didn't exist or were virtually never called in the 70s.

However beyond the weight issue that is mentioned, also to be considered should be the speed, height and general athleticism of the players not only at the skill positions, but on both lines and on special teams.

I'm sorry, but I'd put up this years struggling Chiefs against the 72 Dolphins and expect the current players to outperform the previous era.

What the Dolphins did was special...VERY SPEciAL...but to suggest that their players who didn't train year around, didn't have the advantage of sports nutrition, and the technology of today, and didn't have coaching staffs and trainers of today's standards to keep up with todays athlete is just absurd.

When Madden 2008 comes out i will simulate a game between the 07 Pats and the 72 Dolphins and we'll have to see who wins....

[nigeriannightmare]

Rbedgood,

I keep forgetting to tell you that I also am a huge niners fan. Dolphins/niners superbowl in 84 was the first one I remembered watching and a fan ever since. I was fortunate to receive a birthday card and football signed by Joe in 1993. Those of you wondering my dad was the GM at Trader Vic's at the Westin from 1992-1996. All visiting teams stayed there and a lot Chief players dined there. Talk about being a luck kid!!!!

[Canada]

Rbedgood,

I keep forgetting to tell you that I also am a huge niners fan. Dolphins/niners superbowl in 84 was the first one I remembered watching and a fan ever since. I was fortunate to receive a birthday card and football signed by Joe in 1993. Those of you wondering my dad was the GM at Trader Vic's at the Westin from 1992-1996. All visiting teams stayed there and a lot Chief players dined there. Talk about being a luck kid!!!!

thats pretty cool....except for the part about you being a niners fan!! :lol: :bananen_smilies046:

[hermhater]

Rbedgood,

I keep forgetting to tell you that I also am a huge niners fan. Dolphins/niners superbowl in 84 was the first one I remembered watching and a fan ever since. I was fortunate to receive a birthday card and football signed by Joe in 1993. Those of you wondering my dad was the GM at Trader Vic's at the Westin from 1992-1996. All visiting teams stayed there and a lot Chief players dined there. Talk about being a luck kid!!!!

That sounds awesome man!

The Dolphins are my second fav team, and everyone loves Joe.

Being a huge 49'er fan is a little over the top though...

:bananen_smilies046:

[nigeriannightmare]

That sounds awesome man!

The Dolphins are my second fav team, and everyone loves Joe.

Being a huge 49'er fan is a little over the top though...

:bananen_smilies046:

Chiefs vs. Niners always the Chiefs. Been to2 niners/Chiefs games and always sported Chiefs colors...always.

[Canada]

Chiefs vs. Niners always the Chiefs. Been to2 niners/Chiefs games and always sported Chiefs colors...always.

My buddy is a neners fan and we go back and forth to games....u in san fran??

[nigeriannightmare]

My buddy is a neners fan and we go back and forth to games....u in san fran??


Lived there from 2001-2004 went to the California Culinary Academy. How often you get out there, I try to go back twice a year once in the fall for a game and then in the spring to go get drunk in Napa.

[Canada]

Lived there from 2001-2004 went to the California Culinary Academy. How often you get out there, I try to go back twice a year once in the fall for a game and then in the spring to go get drunk in Napa.

Only when the Chiefs are n town!!

[Coach]

I decided since I'm Mr. Moneybags all of the sudden that I would go ahead and lay $200,000,000 on the Pats at 6:1 odds. That would make me a arrowcash billionaire!

[Canada]

I decided since I'm Mr. Moneybags all of the sudden that I would go ahead and lay $200,000,000 on the Pats at 6:1 odds. That would make me a arrowcash billionaire!

Only 200 000 000? Cheapskate.

[hermhater]

I decided since I'm Mr. Moneybags all of the sudden that I would go ahead and lay $200,000,000 on the Pats at 6:1 odds. That would make me a arrowcash billionaire!

You cant' take it with you!

:lol:

[chief31]

More than two hundred million on the 19-0 season, down the drain.

[Chiefster]

I decided since I'm Mr. Moneybags all of the sudden that I would go ahead and lay $200,000,000 on the Pats at 6:1 odds. That would make me a arrowcash billionaire!


Peanuts; drop in the bucket. :D

[hermhater]

Those odds on the Giants beating them look pretty good about now...

Could we open this even for just a couple more hours?

:biggrin:

[Guru]

Damn!!! Why didn't I bet on that?

[hermhater]

Damn!!! Why didn't I bet on that?

Yep!

I usually throw money around on anything that has great odds, just didn't see the Pats having such a crappy game yesterday.

How much would 10,000 in Arrowcash have won?

[Guru]

655,360,000

[hermhater]

655,360,000

Crap why didn't I put 10,000 on all the huge odds like I usually do.

Never bet on a sure thing!

:11:

[chief31]

Peanuts; drop in the bucket. :D

I don't know. He dropped 200 million, and is left with 53 million. Although 53 Million is still plenty. :D

[Chiefster]

I don't know. He dropped 200 million, and is left with 53 million. Although 53 Million is still plenty. :D


HA! I laugh at 200 million, especially if it ain't mine. :D

[AkChief49]

Crap why didn't I put 10,000 on all the huge odds like I usually do.

Never bet on a sure thing!

:11:always bet on RED!!!!!:D

[hermhater]

always bet on RED!!!!!:D

Hard to do, when both those teams are Red, White, and Blue!

:11:

[AkChief49]

Hard to do, when both those teams are Red, White, and Blue!

:11:O.K. then always bet on RED and GOLD!!!:bananen_smilies046:

[hermhater]

O.K. then always bet on RED and GOLD!!!:bananen_smilies046:

That's more like it!

(Nice monkeys, by the way!)

:yahoo: :bananen_smilies046: :lol:

[AkChief49]

That's more like it!

(Nice monkeys, by the way!)

:yahoo: :bananen_smilies046: :lol:Hear no evil.....:D

[chief31]

O.K. then always bet on RED and GOLD!!!:bananen_smilies046:
That's how I went broke this season. :D

[Canada]

That's how I went broke this season. :D

Me too 2.8 million!! :bananen_smilies046: