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hermhater
01-18-2008, 04:04 PM
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Bobby Fischer Passes Away
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Robert James Fischer, former world champion in chess, is dead. Bobby Fischer, almost 65, was seriously ill and reportedly died of kidney failure. The chess master was born and raised in New York but became an Icelandic citizen in 2005 where he lived for the remainder of his life. Bobby Fischer became World Chess Champion in ReykjavŪk Iceland in 1972.


Fischer became the US chess champion at only 14, the youngest in history. He became world champion after a victory over Spassky in 1972 following one of the most famous duels in chess. Fischer renounced the title in 1975 and played publicly only onceóagainst Spassky in Yugoslaviaófollowing his win.
Bobby Fischer became the world's youngest grandmaster in chess in 1959 at the age of 15. Icelandic grandmaster Fridrik ”lafsson said that there was no doubt that Fischer was the greatest chess player who ever lived. The two both played in the final round of the world chess championship in 1959, the Candidate's tournament. Fisher did not do so well in his first attempts to win the world championship, and claimed that the Soviets, who had dominated the game for more than 40 years, had conspired against him to make sure that he would not finish first in tournaments.


World Champion in ReykjavŪk 1972
In 1970 to 1972 Fischer dominated the game completely. He won a tournament in Yugoslavia for qualifying for the final eight spots to compete for the right to challenge Russian World Champion Boris Spassky. Fischer won three top chess masters on the way to fighting Boris Spassky. First he won Russian Taimanov 6-0, then Dane Bent Larsen 6-0 and finally former world champion Petrosian 6,5-2,5. This was unique in chess history since all three were among the best ten players in the world.


In 1972 Iceland offered to host the championship between Fischer and Spassky. After a very complicated and exciting row of events Fischer finally agreed to come to play. The two played in a sports hall in ReykjavŪk and 5.000 people came to watch every game in the best of 24 match. In the first game Fischer finally seemed to have met his match because Spassky won the game after Fischer had taken the now famous "poisoned pawn." In the second game Fischer did not show up and lost.


It now looked as if the match was over but Fischer finally agreed to play the third game in a back room, a spacious room in the back of the hall but with no spectators allowed. Fischer won the game and after Spassky refused to play again in the back moved back to the stage in the hall. The remainder of the match was played on the stage. But Fischer had returned to his winning mood.


After 10 games Fisher had won five, Spassky only the first two and the games ended in a draw. After Fischer won the 21st game he had 12,5 points against Spassky's 8,5. The USA had its first world champion in chess.


Most Icelanders probably sided with Fischer even though Spassky was quite popular. Fischer's fighting spirit and superior talent impressed most young people.


The Years 1972-2005
Even though Fischer seemed to be odd and eccentric in 1972 he was still closer to being normal than sick. He did not seem to have many close friends but formed a friendship with a policeman Saemundur PŠlsson, called Saemi Rock in Iceland because of his dancing talents. The two got to know each other in 1972 and kept contact until Fischer died. Fischer did not play chess again for 20 years but finally agreed to play again against Spassky in Yugoslavia in 1992. Fischer won again, now 10-5 in more than 30 games (draws did not count).


American authorities pressed charges against Fischer after he played chess with Boris Spassky in former Yugoslavia while the US was boycotting the country.


Fischer had been on Icelandic television once when he lived in Japan. Everyone who heard the interview understood that the man had serious mental problems and most of all needed help. He did not see it that way and it was not until he had been in jail for months in Japan and faced extradition to the US that he applied for asylum in Iceland. Then foreign minister DavŪd Oddsson took up his cause and Althingi, Iceland's parliament, decided unanimously to grant him Icelandic citizenship for humanitarian reasons. He came to Iceland in March 2005, looking like a hermit and ranting about the US government and Jews.


Fischer in Iceland
Fischer did not give many interviews after he come to Iceland. He claimed that regular chess was no longer interesting but recommended the game called Fischer random in which the back row of the chess pieces was arranged in a random fashion. He claimed this was the only way to keep the game interesting after computers had analyzed the regular game so that no excitement remained.


Fischer was often seen in book stores. He was usually on his own and seemed to look for books about outlaws and rebels. He was in contact with a few people; some of whom had been instrumental in insuring his release from jail. Grandmaster Helgi ”lafsson talked to Fischer regularly and said that he clearly followed chess news up to a point a least. Sometimes chess matches are televised in Iceland and on one such occasion Fischer, in a phone call with Helgi ”lafsson, pointed out a brilliant move that had escaped the attention of all Icelandic experts.


Fridrik ”lafsson, Iceland's first grandmaster and one of the players who knew Fischer from the very early days in 1958, kept some contact with Fischer. ”lafsson said that he had suggested that Fischer join him on a trip to Tallinn in Estonia for a chess conference but Fischer would not go, amybe out of fear that the US government would try to have him jailed again.
Boris Spassky came to Iceland in 2005 to play Fridrik ”lafsson in the occasion of the latter becoming 70 years old. At the time a meeting with Fischer was arranged and finally took place after Fischer had shown almost paranoid behavior, insisting that the meeting place be kept secret and all windows sealed and covered. The meeting itself was reportedly friendly.


Fischer was sometimes seen in bars in ReykjavŪk and was usually not disturbed by the other customers. He was often seen walking alone in ReykjavŪk, unshaven and looking like a hobo. His Japanese girlfriend visited him often and was with him over the new year's celebrations. After that she left for Japan.


Bobby Fischer died on January 17 at the Icelandic National Hospital of kidney failure. He had not been well for the last year. According to mbl.is he had not been a believer in Western medicine and was not an easy patient to help.


His friend Saemundur remembers him fondly and says that he is proud to have been part of a teem effort to bring Fischer to Iceland. He believed Fischer had generally been happy to be in the country.


Until his dying day Bobby Fischer remained popular in Iceland. Nobody subscribed to his extreme views but people saw that he was a sick man needing help. The Icelandic people drew the line between Fischer's mental condition and his brilliance at chess. Like his friend Saemundur said to mbl.is: "Fischer was a brilliant chess player and a good friend. In some other ways he was not so brilliant. But who is brilliant in everything?"

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IlovetheChiefs
01-18-2008, 04:18 PM
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Bobby Fischer Passes Away
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Yeah I saw this this morning too. 64 is young but boy how he looked aged. A very bizarre individual but one of the best chess players ever. I've always loved chess and had a couple of books about him.

Now the grim reaper has checkmated Bobby.

Oh and hey, in his memory here is a pretty funny clip of a rare park bench interview he did in the early 70's. He never graduated from high school and I love how he responds with silly grins when the reporter asks him about not graduating! It's like Bobby was saying, "I don't even have a diploma but HA HA who cares cuz Ive hit it big in chess now!"

YouTube - Bobby Fischer interview

hermhater
01-18-2008, 05:09 PM
Good video!

I like his attitude about beating Spasky!

IlovetheChiefs
01-18-2008, 05:43 PM
I used to love to play out those games with Spasky on my chessboard (one book I had had all the moves of every game).

I then did the same thing in their '92 rematch.

It's too bad we'll never know what would have happened if you put Fischer vs. Kasparov in their primes.

I'm pretty sure if we could play the '69 Chiefs vs. the current Patriots, the Chiefs would win by at least 17. But again, we'll never know for sure. heh

hermhater
01-18-2008, 05:52 PM
I tried, and tried to beat my old roommate but he was better than me and I could never win a game.

I gave up after seeing him play against some really good players, deciding I would never be a very good player.

It is still fun to play (especially against someone new to the game :biggrin:)!

IlovetheChiefs
01-18-2008, 05:55 PM
Do you have any chess computers? Of course, there's programs online you can play now too. I have a lot of chess computers. It's not only fun playing the computer but I also enjoy playing one machine against the other.

And that's what I still use my old Atari 2600 for sometimes: The Video Chess cartridge!

prough91
01-18-2008, 06:02 PM
I can never find anyone to play chess with.

hermhater
01-18-2008, 06:04 PM
I lose to the computer on the easiest levels!

:lol:

I'm just not devious to outwit anyone!

:biggrin:

prough91
01-18-2008, 06:06 PM
I lose to the computer on the easiest levels!

:lol:

I'm just not devious to outwit anyone!

:biggrin:

I had a computer chess game installed on my computer. It had like 200 "people" you could play and had their pictures. I kept getting beat by the easiest guy and went and looked at his picture, it was a monkey.

hermhater
01-18-2008, 06:13 PM
I know it man the computer is just too dang hard.

ILoveTheChiefs would love to play against you I would wager.

prough91
01-18-2008, 06:27 PM
I know it man the computer is just too dang hard.

ILoveTheChiefs would love to play against you I would wager.

I bet he would love to play me with a wager.

hermhater
01-18-2008, 06:47 PM
I bet he would love to play me with a wager.

He just paid $400 for plumbing repairs, so I doubt it would be a big one!

rbedgood
01-18-2008, 08:10 PM
I play chess...I was actually one of the nerds in my High School in the Chess Club. Before the wisecracks come I also was on the baseball team, Xcountry team, and wrestling.

I play online at Yahoo! Games...

DrunkHillbilly
01-18-2008, 08:22 PM
Sad?????? I am not a chess player but I did read the article. Didn't he hate the USA?

hermhater
01-18-2008, 08:38 PM
Sad?????? I am not a chess player but I did read the article. Didn't he hate the USA?

He was deranged in his later years (possibly earlier in his life as well) but was the representative for the U.S. when he beat Spasky during the Cold War, so he is generally considered a hero.

DrunkHillbilly
01-18-2008, 08:56 PM
He was deranged in his later years (possibly earlier in his life as well) but was the representative for the U.S. when he beat Spasky during the Cold War, so he is generally considered a hero.
Yea I knew that stuff just didn't know why he went against the US law and bypassed the boycott. Was it because he went mad?

hermhater
01-18-2008, 09:07 PM
Yea I knew that stuff just didn't know why he went against the US law and bypassed the boycott. Was it because he went mad?

I would say probably so.

The reason I say it is sad is because he inspired a lot of young people to get interested in chess and will be missed by many.

I wouldn't put him in the category of a saint by any means, but he was mostly harmless.

IlovetheChiefs
01-18-2008, 09:16 PM
He had a genius mind that could look an amazing amount of moves ahead. But sometimes genuises can be a little eccentric or even mad I guess!

By the way, in addition to over $400 to the plumber today, I now might have to pay an electrician. The lights stopped working in part of my basement from one switch. Maybe it's an inside wire somewhere. So probably just as well there's no gf in my life right now, cuz I can't afford it! Like Valentine's Day is coming up soon so I'll be able to save $ there.

hermhater
01-18-2008, 09:34 PM
He had a genius mind that could look an amazing amount of moves ahead. But sometimes genuises can be a little eccentric or even mad I guess!

By the way, in addition to over $400 to the plumber today, I now might have to pay an electrician. The lights stopped working in part of my basement from one switch. Maybe it's an inside wire somewhere. So probably just as well there's no gf in my life right now, cuz I can't afford it! Like Valentine's Day is coming up soon so I'll be able to save $ there.

Get a flash light and kill the breaker and get in there and fix it yourself!

:bananen_smilies046:

Save ya some money!


I know a little about electrical wiring and what I don't know I can ask my cousin about!

We can save ya some money!

I fixed tammietailgators speaker problem last night and all it took was putting up with my sorry a$$ for a couple of minutes!

:lol:

tammietailgator
01-18-2008, 09:43 PM
Get a flash light and kill the breaker and get in there and fix it yourself!

:bananen_smilies046:

Save ya some money!


I know a little about electrical wiring and what I don't know I can ask my cousin about!

We can save ya some money!

I fixed tammietailgators speaker problem last night and all it took was putting up with my sorry a$$ for a couple of minutes!

:lol:
Yes you did, Thank you!!! You can figure out how to fix anything on the internet. I have fixed many things, plumbing, car, car, car, car, washer, dryer, garbage disposal (never again, its the only job that made me physically sick - thats not easy seeing how I work at a veterinarian hospital) telephone lines. For computers though, I will just ask HH!

hermhater
01-18-2008, 09:45 PM
Yes you did, Thank you!!! You can figure out how to fix anything on the internet. I have fixed many things, plumbing, car, car, car, car, washer, dryer, garbage disposal (never again, its the only job that made me physically sick - thats not easy seeing how I work at a veterinarian hospital) telephone lines. For computers though, I will just ask HH!

Well asking HH is still kind of like using the internet!

:lol:

IlovetheChiefs
01-18-2008, 10:02 PM
Yeah I did surf the net a little but hard to phrase the question in the right way since I'm not exactly sure what the problem is.
I work tomorrow and I'll ask a maintenence worker about it (theres 2 electricians as well) before I call anyone commercially. Thanks fo rthe help and suggestions my fellow Chiefs lovers! :)


ANd the lights had been flickering a while at times for a few weeks. So something was indeed starting to go wrong. I should have inquired about it then!

prough91
01-18-2008, 10:04 PM
I bought chessmaster. I'm practicing up for ilove

hermhater
01-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Yeah I did surf the net a little but hard to phrase the question in the right way since I'm not exactly sure what the problem is.
I work tomorrow and I'll ask a maintenence worker about it (theres 2 electricians as well) before I call anyone commercially. Thanks fo rthe help and suggestions my fellow Chiefs lovers! :)


ANd the lights had been flickering a while at times for a few weeks. So something was indeed starting to go wrong. I should have inquired about it then!

Is it a fluorescent light?

IlovetheChiefs
01-18-2008, 10:08 PM
I bought chessmaster. I'm practicing up for ilove

ooh I got chessmaster 2 for playstation. I can beat some of the computer players but some, especially the chessmaster himself, no can do!

prough91
01-18-2008, 10:09 PM
Sounds like the ballast, if you only have one and it went out

prough91
01-18-2008, 10:10 PM
ooh I got chessmaster 2 for playstation. I can beat some of the computer players but some, especially the chessmaster himself, no can do!

I got the first one

Canada
01-22-2008, 01:36 PM
I saw some guys playing chess in a park once.

hermhater
01-22-2008, 01:37 PM
I saw some guys playing chess in a park once.


Did you tell them that Football isn't Chess, it's Checkers?


:lol:

prough91
01-22-2008, 02:35 PM
I saw some guys playing chess in a park once.

Could you post a pic of it?

Canada
01-22-2008, 02:37 PM
Could you post a pic of it?

I could if I wanted to!!









....and if my wife was here!

Canada
01-22-2008, 02:38 PM
YouTube - speed chess at seabreeze park

I got that for ya though!!

hermhater
01-22-2008, 02:40 PM
YouTube - speed chess at seabreeze park (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V2grjwWl3k)

I got that for ya though!!

That's speed chess?

Taking to long to watch, just tell me who wins!

:bananen_smilies046:

Canada
01-22-2008, 02:43 PM
That's speed chess?

Taking to long to watch, just tell me who wins!

:bananen_smilies046:
Chiefster wins!! :lol:

rbedgood
01-22-2008, 05:45 PM
Chiefster wins!! :lol:

Both of those guys are much to young to be Chiefster...

prough91
01-22-2008, 07:36 PM
Both of those guys are much to young to be Chiefster...

I think those are his sons.

rbedgood
01-29-2008, 03:41 PM
Both of those guys are much to young to be Chiefster...


I think those are his great grandsons.


FYP...

Chiefster
01-30-2008, 09:40 PM
Both of those guys are much to young to be Chiefster...

Heh! Those are just young pups!


I think those are his sons.


...Grandsons.

Canada
01-31-2008, 08:59 AM
Could you post a pic of it?

sure thing buddy!!

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/01/356.jpg

YZILLA
01-31-2008, 12:32 PM
Isnt he the guy who said he was happy to see the Americans get their heads bashed in , or something like that ? How is it sad he died other than he was a great chess player ? I know extremely little of this guy so Dont rip me on this , All I have heard was he hates America!

Canada
01-31-2008, 03:29 PM
Isnt he the guy who said he was happy to see the Americans get their heads bashed in , or something like that ? How is it sad he died other than he was a great chess player ? I know extremely little of this guy so Dont rip me on this , All I have heard was he hates America!

Who dosn't hate Americans?? :lol: j/k

YZILLA
01-31-2008, 07:11 PM
At least he followed the old American saying " America, if you don't like it get the F*** out " !

hermhater
01-31-2008, 08:20 PM
At least he followed the old American saying " America, if you don't like it get the F*** out " !


Yep!

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