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texaschief
03-28-2007, 04:34 PM
for real guys, Allen is now saying he won't be at offseason workouts. he doesn't plan on signing the one year contract until just before training camp. which also means he'll miss the mandatory workout in june. so, lets start the wish list for a trade for Allen. apparently, the guy wants a ginormous contract. i read somewhere that he's looking for Manning money. first, he's a defensive player, so he wont get offensive money...second, he's not THAT good of a defensive end. if we were talking about Freeney, Merriman, or Peppers, then i'd say hell yeah, give 'em the money.... But Jarred Allen???!! really now...

so, i would like a first rd pick, or 2 2nds or a combo of 1 2nd and 2 3rds.
hell, i'd even take a player swap. maybe for a reciever...Moss maybe T.O.? nevermind... lets not open that bag of worms. but seriously, maybe a good WR or young CB that way we fulfill one of our draft needs and we could replace Allen in the draft.

we don't need this cancer on a young team. if he gets what he wants, they'll all start doing it. cut the cancer out now before it spreads.

Coach
03-28-2007, 07:46 PM
I'd hate to see our best d-lineman leave, but I certainly don't think he is worth top tier money.

chief31
03-29-2007, 10:40 AM
Speculation about what players demands are, are generally exaggerated. The one fact that I have heard, in regards to the dispute between Allen and the Chiefs, is that (last I heard) The Chiefs have not made any offer.

The thing I like most, about Allen, is that he is a football player. He does everything he can (on the field) to help the team succeed. He chases running plays from behind, he always gets his hands in the air, when the ball is thrown. He does the kind of things,on every down, that alot of players never do. He puts fourth a "top-tier" effort. He is willing to scratch and claw his way to the football.

Here......he is a better defensive end than Freeney. Freeney is nothing more than a pass-rusher. Jared Allen is a complete player. (again, on the field)

The Chiefs won't be giving him a big contract, because we have to give his money, Sammy Knights money, Kyle Turleys money and a whole lot more, to Larry " I'm gonna cry, no matter how much I get the ball" Johnson.

The salary cap has been raised by, I think, about 35%. We are slashing salaries, so we can give the world to the baby. So, it's O.K. to listen to L.J. pout and whine, but real football players just need to shut up and accept that the real "cancer" is going to get their money.

wolfpack
03-29-2007, 11:56 AM
i use to like this guy but everytime he or his agent open their collective mouths i like him less. a TO in the making. he wont get the money he wants. i think he just wants to pi$$ off the queen. trouble is it seems its backfiring and only turning the fans against him.

Chiefster
03-29-2007, 12:30 PM
Speculation about what players demands are, are generally exaggerated. The one fact that I have heard, in regards to the dispute between Allen and the Chiefs, is that (last I heard) The Chiefs have not made any offer.

The thing I like most, about Allen, is that he is a football player. He does everything he can (on the field) to help the team succeed. He chases running plays from behind, he always gets his hands in the air, when the ball is thrown. He does the kind of things,on every down, that alot of players never do. He puts fourth a "top-tier" effort. He is willing to scratch and claw his way to the football.

Here......he is a better defensive end than Freeney. Freeney is nothing more than a pass-rusher. Jared Allen is a complete player. (again, on the field)

The Chiefs won't be giving him a big contract, because we have to give his money, Sammy Knights money, Kyle Turleys money and a whole lot more, to Larry " I'm gonna cry, no matter how much I get the ball" Johnson.

The salary cap has been raised by, I think, about 35%. We are slashing salaries, so we can give the world to the baby. So, it's O.K. to listen to L.J. pout and whine, but real football players just need to shut up and accept that the real "cancer" is going to get their money.


Exactly, this is how I have always felt about LJ. He is a very tallented RB who needs to quit whining.

The only real problem I have with Allen is that he needs to either attend AA or get a driver.

Chiefster
03-29-2007, 12:32 PM
i use to like this guy but everytime he or his agent open their collective mouths i like him less. a TO in the making. he wont get the money he wants. i think he just wants to pi$$ off the queen. trouble is it seems its backfiring and only turning the fans against him.

I agree, and fear that before long he will be nothing more then a highly paid distraction.

chief31
03-31-2007, 12:32 PM
I agree, and fear that before long he will be nothing more then a highly paid distraction.

Well, if he becomes "highly paid", then I believe he will become a much happier guy. If he stays a "distraction", during the season, then he probably, won't be too highly paid.

I hope for the first scenario.

Canada
03-31-2007, 12:43 PM
My only concern is what they can do on the field. I don't care what any player is doing on tuesday night and I also don't care what they say in interviews or talk shows as long as it does not affect the team or any other players. If u were Allen wouldn't you want to get paid more? I know I would. We all want to be highly paid and if we aren't we go to work anyway. And so what if LJ whines to get the ball...give it to him. I may not like all the players and I may not like some of the stuff they say off the field but if they are gonna get the job done on Sundays then I say let them do their thing.

Coach
03-31-2007, 01:21 PM
My only concern is what they can do on the field. I don't care what any player is doing on tuesday night and I also don't care what they say in interviews or talk shows as long as it does not affect the team or any other players. If u were Allen wouldn't you want to get paid more? I know I would. We all want to be highly paid and if we aren't we go to work anyway. And so what if LJ whines to get the ball...give it to him. I may not like all the players and I may not like some of the stuff they say off the field but if they are gonna get the job done on Sundays then I say let them do their thing.
Agreed, but Allen's off the field antics have now caused him to be suspended next year. That crosses the line. And LJ's antics, affect the lockerroom chemistry.
:bananen_smilies035: :woody7:

chief31
03-31-2007, 01:28 PM
My only concern is what they can do on the field. I don't care what any player is doing on tuesday night and I also don't care what they say in interviews or talk shows as long as it does not affect the team or any other players. If u were Allen wouldn't you want to get paid more? I know I would. We all want to be highly paid and if we aren't we go to work anyway. And so what if LJ whines to get the ball...give it to him. I may not like all the players and I may not like some of the stuff they say off the field but if they are gonna get the job done on Sundays then I say let them do their thing.

I do agree with this statement, for the most part. However, in the Jared Allen case, what he did off the field, has caused him to be missing for four games, this coming season. So, it is understandable to be judgemental. Also, in the L.J. case, he made a racist remark. Something to the effect of...." I could never have that kind of understanding, with a white coach." He has attacked Dick Vermiel, wich isn't a popular decision, with many of his teammates.

Sometimes, "off the field" behavior has an impact "on the field".

Chiefster
03-31-2007, 02:40 PM
Agreed, but Allen's off the field antics have now caused him to be suspended next year. That crosses the line. And LJ's antics, affect the lockerroom chemistry.
:bananen_smilies035: :woody7:

Yup!...


I do agree with this statement, for the most part. However, in the Jared Allen case, what he did off the field, has caused him to be missing for four games, this coming season. So, it is understandable to be judgemental. Also, in the L.J. case, he made a racist remark. Something to the effect of...." I could never have that kind of understanding, with a white coach." He has attacked Dick Vermiel, wich isn't a popular decision, with many of his teammates.

Sometimes, "off the field" behavior has an impact "on the field".

...And yup!

kenny1937
03-31-2007, 06:25 PM
This is almost like beating a dead horse, Allen neds to play football on the field, not cooling his heals in the drunk tank with dui's, and LJ needs to play football on the field with his team, as a member of the team, he is going to need some blockers, and quit shooting off his mouth, and crying. While the soaps are some peoples bag, mine is football, Chief's football to be exact, and players that are unprofiable to a team, playing as a team, are expendable in my book.

:shootingsoldier: :character0074:

Canada
03-31-2007, 06:54 PM
This is almost like beating a dead horse, Allen neds to play football on the field, not cooling his heals in the drunk tank with dui's, and LJ needs to play football on the field with his team, as a member of the team, he is going to need some blockers, and quit shooting off his mouth, and crying. While the soaps are some peoples bag, mine is football, Chief's football to be exact, and players that are unprofiable to a team, playing as a team, are expendable in my book.

:shootingsoldier: :character0074:
Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree that Allen needs to get his sh_t together off the field so he does not affect our team...as far as LJ being a whiner...I work with a ton of winers but I still like my job and I do it very well. If peoples biggest knock on LJ is he is a whiner then I say let him whine while he runs his *** off and who cares what he says.

Canada
03-31-2007, 06:55 PM
Am I off the practice squad yet and is this considered a post?

stlchief
03-31-2007, 08:00 PM
LJ - if whining is not a problem, then why are so many hesitant to take guys like TO. I agree with Canada, but evidentally we are in the minority. When TO was available, I said take him, tell him don't come to practice (much less team meetings), and tell him on Sundays, every play is a streak. If Green / Huard want to launch it, let 'em. if not, TO should pull double coverage every time. Imagine how much better the offense would have been with double coverage on one side of the field every play. Think there would have been more space for Gonzalez & Johnson?

Coach
03-31-2007, 09:32 PM
Am I off the practice squad yet and is this considered a post?
You're almost there. You need 30 posts to be promoted. And yes that does count as a post.
:victory:

Chiefster
04-01-2007, 09:18 AM
This is almost like beating a dead horse, Allen neds to play football on the field, not cooling his heals in the drunk tank with dui's, and LJ needs to play football on the field with his team, as a member of the team, he is going to need some blockers, and quit shooting off his mouth, and crying. While the soaps are some peoples bag, mine is football, Chief's football to be exact, and players that are unprofiable to a team, playing as a team, are expendable in my book.

:shootingsoldier: :character0074:

Agreed, anyone not good for team chemistry is a distraction IMO, however, LJ does seem to do his best running with a chip on his shoulder; I just get sick of hearing about it. LOL!

Canada
10-30-2007, 03:45 PM
Heh...just found this thread and i was wondering if anyone still thinks it is time for Allen to go?

luv
10-30-2007, 04:00 PM
Hermhater will be along any moment to take away their fan cards. LOL

hermhater
10-30-2007, 04:20 PM
Hermhater will be along any moment to take away their fan cards. LOL

Oh no, those days are long gone girly!

I have turned over a new leaf!

Nothing but fluffy kittens and compliments from here on out!

I still feel bad about my rant against people who were here before I arrived.

You guys are the ones who made the site the way it is, and I don't want to see it change!

Thanks for having me guys!

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/386.jpg

Chiefster
10-30-2007, 04:26 PM
Heh...just found this thread and i was wondering if anyone still thinks it is time for Allen to go?

Good point.

texaschief
10-30-2007, 07:32 PM
as long as he's happy, keep him. Let's see how he acts when the Chiefs "franchise" him when the season ends.

Canada
10-30-2007, 07:33 PM
as long as he's happy, keep him. Let's see how he acts when the Chiefs "franchise" him when the season ends.

Always the negative one!!

hermhater
10-30-2007, 07:40 PM
as long as he's happy, keep him. Let's see how he acts when the Chiefs "franchise" him when the season ends.

You mean for the Chiefs? That will be some time in February!

:sign0098: :toast2: :toast2: :toast2:

rbedgood
10-30-2007, 10:22 PM
Oh no, those days are long gone girly!

I have turned over a new leaf!

Nothing but fluffy kittens and compliments from here on out!

I still feel bad about my rant against people who were here before I arrived.

You guys are the ones who made the site the way it is, and I don't want to see it change!

Thanks for having me guys!

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/386.jpg

Who are you? And how did you get access to HermHaters computer?

hermhater
10-30-2007, 10:25 PM
Who are you? And how did you get access to HermHaters computer?

Hilarious dude!

I mean it though!

Respect should be as important as Reputation, and I will start showing it!
:sign0098:

chief31
10-31-2007, 02:19 AM
as long as he's happy, keep him. Let's see how he acts when the Chiefs "franchise" him when the season ends.

Well, players generally don't like being "tagged", and after having been ignored during this past offseason, I imagine he will be a "salty" guy.


he's not THAT good of a defensive end. if we were talking about Freeney, Merriman, or Peppers, then i'd say hell yeah, give 'em the money.... But Jarred Allen???!! really now...



How would texaschief like his crow prepared? :D

McLovin
10-31-2007, 02:28 AM
Well, players generally don't like being "tagged", and after having been ignored during this past offseason, I imagine he will be a "salty" guy.



How would texaschief like his crow prepared? :D

For a sacrilege quote against JA I say we dont cook it at all, Raw baby, and too many of those and we will have to get a crow with the bird flu.

LoL just kiddin but really How good is he really now. Just AWSOME.

As far as the drunk driving thing, I think being smacked on the hand by the league has actually woke him up a little, and I do feel he is much improved from last year.

Thoughts?

hermhater
10-31-2007, 02:31 AM
Well, players generally don't like being "tagged", and after having been ignored during this past offseason, I imagine he will be a "salty" guy.



How would texaschief like his crow prepared? :D

(been saving this one guys)

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/391.jpg

rbedgood
10-31-2007, 02:43 AM
(been saving this one guys)

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/391.jpg

http://sp1.mm-a2.yimg.com/image/2387817581 (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dsylvester%2Bcartoon%2Bcat%26r s%3D0%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3Dmss%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26vf%3D&w=1024&h=768&imgurl=sg.geocities.com%2Ftanwunhui%2FsylvesterWP9 r7.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsg.geocities.com%2Ftanwunhui%2Fi ndex7.html&size=78.8kB&name=sylvesterWP9r7.jpg&p=sylvester+cartoon+cat&type=jpeg&no=14&tt=93&oid=badce78bcbc93e5a&ei=UTF-8) My turn to post a cat...:D

hermhater
10-31-2007, 03:12 AM
Well, players generally don't like being "tagged", and after having been ignored during this past offseason, I imagine he will be a "salty" guy.



How would texaschief like his crow prepared? :D


(been saving this one guys)

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/391.jpg


http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/ (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dsylvester%2Bcartoon%2Bcat%26r s%3D0%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3Dmss%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26vf%3D&w=1024&h=768&imgurl=sg.geocities.com%2Ftanwunhui%2FsylvesterWP9 r7.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsg.geocities.com%2Ftanwunhui%2Fi ndex7.html&size=78.8kB&name=sylvesterWP9r7.jpg&p=sylvester+cartoon+cat&type=jpeg&no=14&tt=93&oid=badce78bcbc93e5a&ei=UTF-8) My turn to post a cat...:D

I tawt I saw a puddycat...

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/10/394.jpg

...and I get another bird. (Sounds like Deion.)

rbedgood
10-31-2007, 03:19 AM
I DID!!! I Did see a Puddy Cat...

http://sp1.mm-a7.yimg.com/image/3793439626 (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Di%2520thought%2520i%2520saw%2520a%2520pudd y%2520cat%26fr2%3Dtab-web%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501-s&w=250&h=188&imgurl=www.ezthemes.com%2Fpreviews%2Ft%2Ftweetyget ssylvesdt.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aaathemes.com%2Fthemes%2Ftwe ety-gets-sylvester-desktop-themes.phtml&size=14.6kB&name=tweetygetssylvesdt.jpg&p=i+thought+i+saw+a+puddy+cat&type=jpeg&no=8&tt=9&oid=108f08f08b782e7e&ei=UTF-8)

hermhater
10-31-2007, 05:17 AM
I DID!!! I Did see a Puddy Cat...

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/ (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Di%2520thought%2520i%2520saw%2520a%2520pudd y%2520cat%26fr2%3Dtab-web%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501-s&w=250&h=188&imgurl=www.ezthemes.com%2Fpreviews%2Ft%2Ftweetyget ssylvesdt.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aaathemes.com%2Fthemes%2Ftwe ety-gets-sylvester-desktop-themes.phtml&size=14.6kB&name=tweetygetssylvesdt.jpg&p=i+thought+i+saw+a+puddy+cat&type=jpeg&no=8&tt=9&oid=108f08f08b782e7e&ei=UTF-8)


Somehow, more than others, that one is a classic.

The stars, the tongue, the mallet, and the bird@!

Classic!

:sign0098: :lol: :toast2:

hermhater
10-31-2007, 05:19 AM
I DID!!! I Did see a Puddy Cat...

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Admin has said "NO REP FOR YOU!"

Gotta wait 24 hours or sumpin' like that.

MEH! :D


Maybe later.

m0ef0e
10-31-2007, 04:59 PM
I would hate to lose the guy that has been leading the NFL in sacks with 2 less games than everybody else. If he keeps playing at the level he has been, he deserves to be paid as one of the top DE's in the league because he is, imo.

Canada
10-31-2007, 05:34 PM
I would hate to lose the guy that has been leading the NFL in sacks with 2 less games than everybody else. If he keeps playing at the level he has been, he deserves to be paid as one of the top DE's in the league because he is, imo.

Agreed!! :bananen_smilies046:

anaeelbackwards
10-31-2007, 05:39 PM
whats wrong with wanting the money? all our other top-tier players whined for it (.i,e t-gunz, LJ, priest and a few more) and got it. its all apart of the business.

rbedgood
10-31-2007, 05:39 PM
I would hate to lose the guy that has been leading the NFL in sacks with 2 less games than everybody else. If he keeps playing at the level he has been, he deserves to be paid as one of the top DE's in the league because he is, imo.

The thing that makes Allen most impressive isn't just his sack total, but most guys who put up the sack numbers are a liability against the run (Julius Peppers, Strahan, KGB, Freeney, and Jason Taylor come to mind) Allen on the other hand is one of your stronger run defenders all the while racking up 8 sacks in 5 games. Only Philly's Cole has more with 9 in 7 games.

Canada
10-31-2007, 05:41 PM
whats wrong with wanting the money? all our other top-tier players whined for it (.i,e t-gunz, LJ, priest and a few more) and got it. its all apart of the business.

Nothing...now that he has sorted out the DUI issues and seems to be past all that bullsh!t.

texaschief
03-13-2008, 05:33 AM
for real guys, Allen is now saying he won't be at offseason workouts. he doesn't plan on signing the one year contract until just before training camp. which also means he'll miss the mandatory workout in june. so, lets start the wish list for a trade for Allen. apparently, the guy wants a ginormous contract. i read somewhere that he's looking for Manning money. first, he's a defensive player, so he wont get offensive money...second, he's not THAT good of a defensive end. if we were talking about Freeney, Merriman, or Peppers, then i'd say hell yeah, give 'em the money.... But Jarred Allen???!! really now...

so, i would like a first rd pick, or 2 2nds or a combo of 1 2nd and 2 3rds.
hell, i'd even take a player swap. maybe for a reciever...Moss maybe T.O.? nevermind... lets not open that bag of worms. but seriously, maybe a good WR or young CB that way we fulfill one of our draft needs and we could replace Allen in the draft.

we don't need this cancer on a young team. if he gets what he wants, they'll all start doing it. cut the cancer out now before it spreads.

Almost the same exact song a year later.....great. Is this JA saga ever going to end? I wonder if we'll have this same problem next year after we "franchise" his overrated *** again.

hermhater
03-13-2008, 05:41 AM
Almost the same exact song a year later.....great. Is this JA saga ever going to end? I wonder if we'll have this same problem next year after we "franchise" his overrated *** again.

You brought it up.

texaschief
03-13-2008, 05:46 AM
You brought it up.

We've been talking about trading JA for weeks now. don't act.

hermhater
03-13-2008, 05:48 AM
We've been talking about trading JA for weeks now. don't act.

Thought this was from last year.

My bad.
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texaschief
03-13-2008, 05:50 AM
Thought this was from last year.

My bad.
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

This thread WAS from last year....and it just goes along with what we're talking about THIS year.....and what we'll probably be talking about a year from now.

hermhater
03-13-2008, 05:56 AM
This thread WAS from last year....and it just goes along with what we're talking about THIS year.....and what we'll probably be talking about a year from now.

Ego much?


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Chiefster
03-13-2008, 02:52 PM
Carl is an idiot! He, practically, did the same thing with LJ last year and we all saw how well that turned out.

Allen has proved himself several times over; time to pay the man!





That is all.

texaschief
03-13-2008, 05:33 PM
Carl is an idiot! He, practically, did the same thing with LJ last year and we all saw how well that turned out.

Allen has proved himself several times over; time to pay the man!





That is all.

EXACTLY!! Now you want to put a whole lot of money into someone who can't stay sober in the offseason? Two springs straight, this guy has done something stupid. I'm still waiting for the hat to drop THIS offseason.

Canada
03-13-2008, 05:35 PM
EXACTLY!! Now you want to put a whole lot of money into someone who can't stay sober in the offseason? Two springs straight, this guy has done something stupid. I'm still waiting for the hat to drop THIS offseason.


hahahahahahahaha :lol::lol::lol: ahahahahahahahah:lol::lol::lol:

rbedgood
03-13-2008, 06:43 PM
EXACTLY!! Now you want to put a whole lot of money into someone who can't stay sober in the offseason? Two springs straight, this guy has done something stupid. I'm still waiting for the hat to drop THIS offseason.


hahahahahahahaha :lol::lol::lol: ahahahahahahahah:lol::lol::lol:

Canada, we know you can't stay sober...but he wasn't talking about YOU!!

Canada
03-13-2008, 07:02 PM
Canada, we know you can't stay sober...but he wasn't talking about YOU!!

I can, I just don't want to!! :D

hermhater
03-14-2008, 02:57 AM
EXACTLY!! Now you want to put a whole lot of money into someone who can't stay sober in the offseason? Two springs straight, this guy has done something stupid. I'm still waiting for the hat to drop THIS offseason.

I can only assume you have never screwed up, so you wouldn't believe someone who has before can actually change their behavior.

chief31
03-15-2008, 03:55 AM
Almost the same exact song a year later.....great. Is this JA saga ever going to end? I wonder if we'll have this same problem next year after we "franchise" his overrated *** again.
:pointlaugh: Way to stick with your story, even when you have been humiliated by it.:yahoo:

texaschief
03-15-2008, 04:32 AM
:pointlaugh: Way to stick with your story, even when you have been humiliated by it.:yahoo:

really? humiliated? uh, no. He's still a cancer on this team that's only going to get worse. How many times does he have to eff up for you to understand this?

I'm all for giving a guy a second chance, but when he's given a THIRD chance, then ****s on the team that gave him that chance because he thinks he isn't getting paid enough and also doesn't try to understand that his past behavior is going to cut into his next contract, then i've got no use for this guy.

I'd say the only person who should be humiliated is the guy who's been caught breaking the law, then *****ing about not getting paid enough to PLAY A GAME.

I STILL don't want him here....obviously.

hermhater
03-15-2008, 04:37 AM
really? humiliated? uh, no. He's still a cancer on this team that's only going to get worse. How many times does he have to eff up for you to understand this?

I'm all for giving a guy a second chance, but when he's given a THIRD chance, then ****s on the team that gave him that chance because he thinks he isn't getting paid enough and also doesn't try to understand that his past behavior is going to cut into his next contract, then i've got no use for this guy.

I'd say the only person who should be humiliated is the guy who's been caught breaking the law, then *****ing about not getting paid enough to PLAY A GAME.

I STILL don't want him here....obviously.

I understand what you're saying about chances given.

My issue with this statement is what I have made bold above.

This is not a game, it's a business.

Players have to do more than just run on the field Sundays.

This is a multi-billion dollar industry that the players are a part of.

You are insulting the players value in that industry.

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/03/45.jpg

texaschief
03-15-2008, 04:41 AM
You're telling me that ANY player in the league is worth what they're getting paid in real life?

I know plenty of people who have worked or work harder than NFL players do and for a MUCH MUCH longer period of time.

The guy needs a reality check.

hermhater
03-15-2008, 05:19 AM
You're telling me that ANY player in the league is worth what they're getting paid in real life?

I know plenty of people who have worked or work harder than NFL players do and for a MUCH MUCH longer period of time.

The guy needs a reality check.

I'm telling you that the NFL IS real life.

jerhart
03-15-2008, 10:34 AM
for real guys, Allen is now saying he won't be at offseason workouts. he doesn't plan on signing the one year contract until just before training camp. which also means he'll miss the mandatory workout in june. so, lets start the wish list for a trade for Allen. apparently, the guy wants a ginormous contract. i read somewhere that he's looking for Manning money. first, he's a defensive player, so he wont get offensive money...second, he's not THAT good of a defensive end. if we were talking about Freeney, Merriman, or Peppers, then i'd say hell yeah, give 'em the money.... But Jarred Allen???!! really now...

so, i would like a first rd pick, or 2 2nds or a combo of 1 2nd and 2 3rds.
hell, i'd even take a player swap. maybe for a reciever...Moss maybe T.O.? nevermind... lets not open that bag of worms. but seriously, maybe a good WR or young CB that way we fulfill one of our draft needs and we could replace Allen in the draft.

we don't need this cancer on a young team. if he gets what he wants, they'll all start doing it. cut the cancer out now before it spreads.


After researching the guy a bit more, I would have done the Lito Shepard plus a draft pic swap....

Canada
03-15-2008, 10:52 AM
You're telling me that ANY player in the league is worth what they're getting paid in real life?

I know plenty of people who have worked or work harder than NFL players do and for a MUCH MUCH longer period of time.

The guy needs a reality check.

Everyone who goes to a game, buts a jersey or pays for NFL Network agrees that these guys are worth what they are getting paid. People at McDonalds work harder than I do, but I get paid more. How hard you work has nothing to do with how much money you make.

I think you might want to get a quick reality check yourself. :bananen_smilies046:

hermhater
03-15-2008, 02:30 PM
Everyone who goes to a game, buts a jersey or pays for NFL Network agrees that these guys are worth what they are getting paid. People at McDonalds work harder than I do, but I get paid more. How hard you work has nothing to do with how much money you make.

I think you might want to get a quick reality check yourself. :bananen_smilies046:

Nicely stated!

Rep.

(As if you needed it rep whore!)

:bananen_smilies046:

dtforever
03-15-2008, 03:31 PM
i think i would rather have allen than johnson. allen will do what it takes to win and he is a better teamate. johnson got his big dollars and quit trying. he does not care about his teamates. allen on the other had has no problem playing goaline offense or on special teams they sould get rid of there long snapper and let him eearn that extra money in other ways than a DE. he is willing to do things that the top of the line DEs wont he wants to win and i dont blame him at all for wanting more money.

Chiefster
03-15-2008, 09:53 PM
Living in the past is so sad. :p

hermhater
03-16-2008, 02:58 AM
Living in the past is so sad. :p

I thought we talked about that pink smilie?

Do I need to give you a better one to use again?

Well here you go!

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/03/46.jpg

Chiefster
03-17-2008, 01:08 AM
I thought we talked about that pink smilie?

Do I need to give you a better one to use again?

Well here you go!

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/03/46.jpg

I hear ya; I'll talk to Coach about it.

hermhater
03-17-2008, 01:11 AM
I hear ya; I'll talk to Coach about it.

Yer a good man Charlie Brown!

(Seriously though, that pink thing is creepy. It looks kind of like that albino in The Da Vinci Code!:scared2:)

Chiefster
03-17-2008, 01:15 AM
Yer a good man Charlie Brown!

(Seriously though, that pink thing is creepy. It looks kind of like that albino in The Da Vinci Code!:scared2:)

...Never saw it, so it doesn't affect me in that way.

hermhater
03-17-2008, 01:17 AM
...Never saw it, so it doesn't affect my in that way.


Did you read the book?

Chiefster
03-17-2008, 01:21 AM
Did you read the book?

Nope.

hermhater
03-17-2008, 01:23 AM
Nope.

OK, we're off subject here, how did that happen?

:D

Chiefster
03-17-2008, 01:50 AM
OK, we're off subject here, how did that happen?

:D


You and I are posting in a thread. :lol: