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hermhater
02-02-2008, 03:11 PM
What percentage of plays on 4th down result in a first down for offenses?

IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 06:20 PM
I'm not sure. But I think the success rate is higher on 4th and short (like inches, 1 yard, 2 yards) than it is for 4th and long (like 10 or 15 yards). Heh!

It SEEMS like 4th and short works about 40-50% of the time and 4th and long (when they have no choice to go for it because of the little time remaining) works less than 20% of the time.

So maybe about one third of the time overall. Total supposition on my part, though!

IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 06:29 PM
Oh but wait, I found an article from October 2004 that said this:

"The NFL's 32 teams have converted 70 of 128 fourth-down tries (55%) vs. 53 of 116 (46%) in the same period last season."

Guess it could very well be at or near 50% then.

How about how often is the on sides kick successful? That would seem like only about 10%.

IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 06:38 PM
And just found a stat on the on side kick too: "23% of onside kicks were successful (12 out of 52)." Again, that's just in a small period of time. But maybe the overall % is still a bit higher than I surmised at 10%.

hermhater
02-02-2008, 06:45 PM
Seems like catching Defenses off guard would raise that On Sides kick a bit!

Coaches should use it more often!

IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 06:50 PM
A few years ago Andy Reid of the Eagles tried that play on the opening kickoff against Dallas and it worked, so there indeed is a case in point.

Canada
02-02-2008, 07:11 PM
Dallas v fubbalo on Monday nite the year!! Greatest onside kick EVER!!

IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 07:22 PM
Dallas v fubbalo on Monday nite the year!! Greatest onside kick EVER!!

Found it; here it is:

YouTube - Unbelieveable Comeback

Canada
02-02-2008, 07:27 PM
My wife loved reliving that!! Thanks!! :funnypost: :bananen_smilies046: I am getting in trouble, but I gotta go to wok now so it is OK :D

IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 07:39 PM
My wife loved reliving that!! Thanks!! :funnypost: :bananen_smilies046: I am getting in trouble, but I gotta go to wok now so it is OK :D

That's great that your gal is a football gal!

And I guess you're having Chinese food for dinner, mmmmm! (since you have to go to wok, heh!)

Canada
02-02-2008, 07:43 PM
awwww now sparkles, you know you have a deep heartfelt respect for the bills and their legions of fans somewhere.




BTW, you left your account logged in when you went to work, hoser.


-the wiphe

IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 08:15 PM
Canada's wiphe! What an honor this is! :)

hermhater
02-02-2008, 08:50 PM
awwww now sparkles, you know you have a deep heartfelt respect for the bills and their legions of fans somewhere.




BTW, you left your account logged in when you went to work, hoser.


-the wiphe

Hi!

Don't remember talking to you last night, hope I wasn't too much of an ***!

:lol:

Chiefster
02-02-2008, 08:59 PM
What percentage of plays on 4th down result in a first down for offenses?

There's a one in four chance that it might work. :D

Canada
02-02-2008, 10:34 PM
awwww now big daddy, you know you have a deep hole dug for the bills and their legions of fans somewhere.




BTW, you left your account logged in when you went to work, hoser.


-the trophy wiphe

heh heh....fixed her post!!

hermhater
02-02-2008, 10:49 PM
heh heh....fixed her post!!

Heh!

Nice...

:bananen_smilies046:

chief31
02-03-2008, 04:55 AM
Seems like catching Defenses off guard would raise that On Sides kick a bit!

Coaches should use it more often!

Yeah, I'm sure Herm is going to jump right on that.


A few years ago Andy Reid of the Eagles tried that play on the opening kickoff against Dallas and it worked, so there indeed is a case in point.

My favorite on-side kick was in '95-6, when the Steelers opened the second half of the Super Bowl against the Cowboys with it.


heh heh....fixed her post!!

Now Sparkles.....

:lol: :lol: :lol:

hermhater
02-03-2008, 01:10 PM
That was just cold blooded how you ended the "Last one to post in this thread wins" thread!

:lol:

Sparkles...

tornadospotter
02-03-2008, 01:55 PM
That was just cold blooded how you ended the "Last one to post in this thread wins" thread!

:lol:

Sparkles...
Yes and I had my Trophy all shined up for my win!
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chief31
02-03-2008, 01:59 PM
Yes and I had my Trophy all shined up for my win!
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I'll take that.

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Thank you very much!

tornadospotter
02-03-2008, 02:02 PM
I'll take that.

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Thank you very much!
No!!! Unless you share it with all of us citizens of the Chiefs Nation!

chief31
02-03-2008, 02:06 PM
No!!! Unless you share it with all of us citizens of the Chiefs Nation!

Whenever the Chiefs are up to the challenge to come and get it. :D

hermhater
02-03-2008, 02:06 PM
Yes and I had my Trophy all shined up for my win!
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/


I'll take that.

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Thank you very much!

It's mine I tell ya!

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