View Full Version : What are the stats concerning 4th down conversions?
hermhater
02-02-2008, 02:11 PM
What percentage of plays on 4th down result in a first down for offenses?
IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 05:20 PM
I'm not sure. But I think the success rate is higher on 4th and short (like inches, 1 yard, 2 yards) than it is for 4th and long (like 10 or 15 yards). Heh!
It SEEMS like 4th and short works about 40-50% of the time and 4th and long (when they have no choice to go for it because of the little time remaining) works less than 20% of the time.
So maybe about one third of the time overall. Total supposition on my part, though!
IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 05:29 PM
Oh but wait, I found an article from October 2004 that said this:
"The NFL's 32 teams have converted 70 of 128 fourth-down tries (55%) vs. 53 of 116 (46%) in the same period last season."
Guess it could very well be at or near 50% then.
How about how often is the on sides kick successful? That would seem like only about 10%.
IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 05:38 PM
And just found a stat on the on side kick too: "23% of onside kicks were successful (12 out of 52)." Again, that's just in a small period of time. But maybe the overall % is still a bit higher than I surmised at 10%.
hermhater
02-02-2008, 05:45 PM
Seems like catching Defenses off guard would raise that On Sides kick a bit!
Coaches should use it more often!
IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 05:50 PM
A few years ago Andy Reid of the Eagles tried that play on the opening kickoff against Dallas and it worked, so there indeed is a case in point.
Canada
02-02-2008, 06:11 PM
Dallas v fubbalo on Monday nite the year!! Greatest onside kick EVER!!
IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 06:22 PM
Dallas v fubbalo on Monday nite the year!! Greatest onside kick EVER!!
Found it; here it is:
YouTube - Unbelieveable Comeback
Canada
02-02-2008, 06:27 PM
My wife loved reliving that!! Thanks!! :funnypost: :bananen_smilies046: I am getting in trouble, but I gotta go to wok now so it is OK :D
IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 06:39 PM
My wife loved reliving that!! Thanks!! :funnypost: :bananen_smilies046: I am getting in trouble, but I gotta go to wok now so it is OK :D
That's great that your gal is a football gal!
And I guess you're having Chinese food for dinner, mmmmm! (since you have to go to wok, heh!)
Canada
02-02-2008, 06:43 PM
awwww now sparkles, you know you have a deep heartfelt respect for the bills and their legions of fans somewhere.
BTW, you left your account logged in when you went to work, hoser.
-the wiphe
IlovetheChiefs
02-02-2008, 07:15 PM
Canada's wiphe! What an honor this is! :)
hermhater
02-02-2008, 07:50 PM
awwww now sparkles, you know you have a deep heartfelt respect for the bills and their legions of fans somewhere.
BTW, you left your account logged in when you went to work, hoser.
-the wiphe
Hi!
Don't remember talking to you last night, hope I wasn't too much of an ***!
:lol:
Chiefster
02-02-2008, 07:59 PM
What percentage of plays on 4th down result in a first down for offenses?
There's a one in four chance that it might work. :D
Canada
02-02-2008, 09:34 PM
awwww now big daddy, you know you have a deep hole dug for the bills and their legions of fans somewhere.
BTW, you left your account logged in when you went to work, hoser.
-the trophy wiphe
heh heh....fixed her post!!
hermhater
02-02-2008, 09:49 PM
heh heh....fixed her post!!
Heh!
Nice...
:bananen_smilies046:
chief31
02-03-2008, 03:55 AM
Seems like catching Defenses off guard would raise that On Sides kick a bit!
Coaches should use it more often!
Yeah, I'm sure Herm is going to jump right on that.
A few years ago Andy Reid of the Eagles tried that play on the opening kickoff against Dallas and it worked, so there indeed is a case in point.
My favorite on-side kick was in '95-6, when the Steelers opened the second half of the Super Bowl against the Cowboys with it.
heh heh....fixed her post!!
Now Sparkles.....
:lol: :lol: :lol:
hermhater
02-03-2008, 12:10 PM
That was just cold blooded how you ended the "Last one to post in this thread wins" thread!
:lol:
Sparkles...
tornadospotter
02-03-2008, 12:55 PM
That was just cold blooded how you ended the "Last one to post in this thread wins" thread!
:lol:
Sparkles...
Yes and I had my Trophy all shined up for my win!
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chief31
02-03-2008, 12:59 PM
Yes and I had my Trophy all shined up for my win!
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I'll take that.
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Thank you very much!
tornadospotter
02-03-2008, 01:02 PM
I'll take that.
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Thank you very much!
No!!! Unless you share it with all of us citizens of the Chiefs Nation!
chief31
02-03-2008, 01:06 PM
No!!! Unless you share it with all of us citizens of the Chiefs Nation!
Whenever the Chiefs are up to the challenge to come and get it. :D
hermhater
02-03-2008, 01:06 PM
Yes and I had my Trophy all shined up for my win!
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/
I'll take that.
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/
Thank you very much!
It's mine I tell ya!
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:yahoo:
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