Matt Ryan???????

[nigeriannightmare]

What;s up crowd? Just finished up with this weeks sports illustrated and the chiefs seemed to have interest in Matt Ryan. If Ryan is available at 5 what do you think management will do. Don't know who they talked to from the Chiefs organization but it seems "they" think very highly of Matt Ryan.

[Three7s]

He won't be because the Falcons are gonna grab him, however if Long and Dorsey are gone, but Ryan isn't, somehow, still available, then it would be worth thinking about.

[texaschief]

If we do take Ryan, we need to trade Brodie Croyle and let it be known that the job is Matt Ryan's. The biggest thing is that we need to make sure he gets to camp on time. It's not like we don't have the cap room to pay him what he wants.

But, like i've said before, I'd much rather have Flacco in a later round. Matt Ryan just doesn't seem to be much of an athlete...and for the next couple years, that's what this team is going to need as we rebuild this line. Even if we rebuild this line thru the draft with stud linemen, they're still going to be rookies and will need a couple years of NFL experience before they will make a dominant line.

[jaytray]

I'd love to take ryan but I really don't see the falcons passing him up. With the whole vick situation the team knows that it has to get a new face of the falcons even if its not the guy they really want.

I am crossing my fingers for jake long.

First post BTW. weeeeeeeeeee.

[royalswin100games]

If we do take Ryan, we need to trade Brodie Croyle and let it be known that the job is Matt Ryan's. The biggest thing is that we need to make sure he gets to camp on time. It's not like we don't have the cap room to pay him what he wants.

But, like i've said before, I'd much rather have Flacco in a later round. Matt Ryan just doesn't seem to be much of an athlete...and for the next couple years, that's what this team is going to need as we rebuild this line. Even if we rebuild this line thru the draft with stud linemen, they're still going to be rookies and will need a couple years of NFL experience before they will make a dominant line.

Flacco did look cool as a cucumber at the combine. What about Henne or maybe Ainge? Matt Ryan has a cannon for an arm but he isn't very mobile.

[texaschief]

Flacco did look cool as a cucumber at the combine. What about Henne or maybe Ainge? Matt Ryan has a cannon for an arm but he isn't very mobile.

I don't like Henne or Ainge. If we were to take a QB that late, I'd look at Woodson from Kentucky first.

[royalswin100games]

I don't like Henne or Ainge. If we were to take a QB that late, I'd look at Woodson from Kentucky first.

Woodson is slower than Ryan. Granted he does have a cannon, but he can't move.

[texaschief]

Woodson is slower than Ryan. Granted he does have a cannon, but he can't move.

i disagree. i watched him several times this season and he's more mobile than most of the QBs in this draft.

[royalswin100games]

i disagree. i watched him several times this season and he's more mobile than most of the QBs in this draft.

I watched him too but I guess we're both entitled to our opinions. He did look impressive against LSU.

What do you think about Brohm? I think he was overhyped at the beginning of this season but the "experts" think he has the skills.

[texaschief]

I watched him too but I guess we're both entitled to our opinions. He did look impressive against LSU.

What do you think about Brohm? I think he was overhyped at the beginning of this season but the "experts" think he has the skills.

I don't like him.....at all. he reminds me of a Chris Simms. I watched enough of Texas football to know i don't like Simms. lol

[OTR Chiefs fan]

Guys! Guys! What are we doing talking about a QB in the first round? Even if Matt Ryan was available to the Chiefs (which I don't think he will be) I think it would be a wasted pick on him at this time. QB is not our most pressing need. O-line, O-line, O-LINE!!! :D If we can get a good prospect in the later rounds, then fine. We need to see what Croyle can do with a full season under his belt and we have a decent backup in Huard. So, lets turn our thoughts to the real issues at hand. Note to Carl; GET THE DEAL DONE WITH ALLEN!!! :D

[hermhater]

I don't like him.....at all. he reminds me of a Chris Simms. I watched enough of Texas football to know i don't like Simms. lol


They have football in Texas?

:lol:

[hermhater]

Guys! Guys! What are we doing talking about a QB in the first round? Even if Matt Ryan was available to the Chiefs (which I don't think he will be) I think it would be a wasted pick on him at this time. QB is not our most pressing need. O-line, O-line, O-LINE!!! :D If we can get a good prospect in the later rounds, then fine. We need to see what Croyle can do with a full season under his belt and we have a decent backup in Huard. So, lets turn our thoughts to the real issues at hand. Note to Carl; GET THE DEAL DONE WITH ALLEN!!! :D

What's going on OTR?

Where ya at tonight?

[Coach]

I'd love to take ryan but I really don't see the falcons passing him up. With the whole vick situation the team knows that it has to get a new face of the falcons even if its not the guy they really want.

I am crossing my fingers for jake long.

First post BTW. weeeeeeeeeee.

I hope Ryan isn't there. Because if he is, that means that J Long is almost certainly gone.


I don't like Henne or Ainge. If we were to take a QB that late, I'd look at Woodson from Kentucky first.

I'm not against the Chiefs taking a chance on a QB late on the first day if there are some good prospects left. I'd be really surprised if Woodson is still there though.

[AkChief49]

a QB only after other needs have been met!! OL and CB are our (first)needs.

[DrunkHillbilly]

If Long is gone, I hope we don't reach and take a flyer on an O lineman just because of need. O linemen are few and far between this year. In the draft and free agency.

[hermhater]

If Long is gone, I hope we don't reach and take a flyer on an O lineman just because of need. O linemen are few and far between this year. In the draft and free agency.

I say we throw a sack over Long's head and kidnap the guy!

When pre season rolls around we let him out of his cage to run wild over opposing defensive lineman!

:yahoo:

[Coach]

If Long is gone, I hope we don't reach and take a flyer on an O lineman just because of need. O linemen are few and far between this year. In the draft and free agency.

I'd agree that I hope that we don't reach for another OL if J Long is gone. But as far as OL being few and far between, most analysts view this draft as being very deep for O-lineman.

[Three7s]

Especially OTs.

[jaytray]

I say we throw a sack over Long's head and kidnap the guy!

When pre season rolls around we let him out of his cage to run wild over opposing defensive lineman!

:yahoo:

Best idea I've heard all week!!!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

I'd agree that I hope that we don't reach for another OL if J Long is gone. But as far as OL being few and far between, most analysts view this draft as being very deep for O-lineman.
I couldn't disagree more!!! I don't want to see us reach for a guy like Clady and then be back to square one. I'd rather trade the pick!

[hermhater]

I couldn't disagree more!!! I don't want to see us reach for a guy like Clady and then be back to square one. I'd rather trade the pick!

What's wrong with Clady?

[Canada]

I say we throw a sack over Long's head and kidnap the guy!

When pre season rolls around we let him out of his cage to run wild over opposing defensive lineman!

:yahoo:

Yeah...You ....kidnap Long!! :lol:

[hermhater]

Yeah...You ....kidnap Long!! :lol:

I said "we"! :sign0104:

Pay attention!

[jaytray]

I said "we"! :sign0104:

Pay attention!

Add me to the "we" list. When is this kidnapping takeing place? I'll buy my plane tix right now!

[hermhater]

Add me to the "we" list. When is this kidnapping takeing place? I'll buy my plane tix right now!

As soon as we get every one on board!

We have to keep quiet about it or he will be on guard!

[Three7s]

We're gonna need at least 20 people! The dude is a monster!

[hermhater]

How many do we have on board?

[Canada]

Including you and jaytray...one and a half!!

[hermhater]

Including you and jaytray...one and a half!!

Hah!

(That was actually kind of funny!)

:lol:

[Canada]

Hah!

(That was actually kind of funny!)

:lol:

:D :bananen_smilies046:

[hermhater]

:D :bananen_smilies046:

Shouldn't you be cleaning the vomit off of a crack head or something?

:bananen_smilies046:

[royalswin100games]

Shouldn't you be cleaning the vomit off of a crack head or something?

:bananen_smilies046:

Geez, what does Canada do? Does he work in an emergency room?
:drunkhb:

[Canada]

Shouldn't you be cleaning the vomit off of a crack head or something?

:bananen_smilies046:

Too early...I just watched the Simpsons and Dexter, now I am waitin for the Family Guy to start! ...and gettin paid for it!! :D

[royalswin100games]

Too early...I just watched the Simpsons and Dexter, now I am waitin for the Family Guy to start! ...and gettin paid for it!! :D

PETER IS THE MAN! So is Quagmire... Alllllllrighhhht.

[Canada]

gigiddy gigiddy

[Canada]

Geez, what does Canada do? Does he work in an emergency room?
:drunkhb:

Paramedic....I bring 'em in to the emergency room!! :D

[royalswin100games]

Paramedic....I bring 'em in to the emergency room!! :D

Sweet. I'm trying to get into PA school. I'm thinking about specializing in emergency medicine. Am I getting off topic? Let's trade #5 for two first rounders or maybe a first and second.

[Canada]

Sweet. I'm trying to get into PA school. I'm thinking about specializing in emergency medicine. Am I getting off topic? Let's trade #5 for two first rounders or maybe a first and second.

I teach Paramedics at the college where I live too. I would love to trade the #5 if Long is not available.

[royalswin100games]

I teach Paramedics at the college where I live too. I would love to trade the #5 if Long is not available.

I've fixed broken Marines and Seabees for 11 years. A lot of field stuff. Malingering in homeport, seabees are always trying to get out of work.

I'll be good with Godser Cherilus from BC, Clady from Boise, or Otah from Pitt.

[Canada]

I've fixed broken Marines and Seabees for 11 years. A lot of field stuff. Malingering in homeport, seabees are always trying to get out of work.

I'll be good with Godser Cherilus from BC, Clady from Boise, or Otah from Pitt.

I like being out on the road. I am not a big fan of the controlled invironment. I gotta have things goin on all around me to really enjoy my work!!

[hermhater]

I like being out on the road. I am not a big fan of the controlled invironment. I gotta have things goin on all around me to really enjoy my work!!

Family guy starts in 7 minutes!

What about the #5 spot?

giggity

[royalswin100games]

Family guy starts in 7 minutes!

What about the #5 spot?

giggity

Trade the # 5 for some more 1st/2nd round picks.

Alllrighhht

[Three7s]

I'd only do it if Long and Dorsey are gone. Both of those guys could fill a much needed hole, obviously.

[royalswin100games]

I'd only do it if Long and Dorsey are gone. Both of those guys could fill a much needed hole, obviously.

I'm not sold on Dorsey but if Long is available, I completely agree we should take him.
:toast2:

[hermhater]

Trade the # 5 for some more 1st/2nd round picks.

Alllrighhht

But what if Long is still there at #5?

[Three7s]

I'm not sold on Dorsey but if Long is available, I completely agree we should take him.
:toast2:
:lol:

[hermhater]

Looks like I waited a little too long before posting!

3-7's sort of beat me too it!

[royalswin100games]

:lol:

What'd I do? Am I missing something?
:sign0104:

[Three7s]

Oh, nope, that was to HH for being a bit late!

[hermhater]

:lol:

[Coach]

I couldn't disagree more!!! I don't want to see us reach for a guy like Clady and then be back to square one. I'd rather trade the pick!
Nobody said they shouldn't trade the pick if J Long isn't there. I was just saying that it is a deep draft in terms of o-lineman.

[hermhater]

Nobody said they shouldn't trade the pick if J Long isn't there. I was just saying that it is a deep draft in terms of o-lineman.

See this is where I get confused.

I have heard on this board that it is a deep draft for O linemen, and that it isn't deep.

Which is it?

[royalswin100games]

See this is where I get confused.

I have heard on this board that it is a deep draft for O linemen, and that it isn't deep.

Which is it?

It seems there are several tackles that are hyped up to be good pros. Guard, however is a different story.

[Coach]

See this is where I get confused.

I have heard on this board that it is a deep draft for O linemen, and that it isn't deep.

Which is it?
Obviously that is subject to interpretation. The experts that I have read refer to it being deep. The only person I've read that didn't think it was a deep o-lineman draft was drunkhillbilly.

[hermhater]

It seems there are several tackles that are hyped up to be good pros. Guard, however is a different story.

We are gonna need guards too. I think they are gonna move Waters to Center.


Obviously that is subject to interpretation. The experts that I have read refer to it being deep. The only person I've read that didn't think it was a deep o-lineman draft was drunkhillbilly.

There were a couple of others that said the draft wasn't that deep as well.

Can't remember who it was now though...

[royalswin100games]

They're gonna need to move Waters to center. I haven't heard of any quality free agents left. The top center i've seen in the draft hype is Mike Pollak out of Arizona State and he's not projected as a 1st or 2nd rounder.

[Chiefster]

See this is where I get confused.

I have heard on this board that it is a deep draft for O linemen, and that it isn't deep.

Which is it?

Well it is, but it isn't.

:p

[kcmostwanted]

Definitely a deep draft for Tackles... as for other positions i'm not sure.

We can see 4+ tackles go in the 1st round..
and then in the later rounds there are other guys too such as Collins from KU, the Vandy Kid, Maryland Kid, Nebraska Kid... Lots to choose from this Draft..

The Chiefs could go..1st rnd O-line, 2nd - CB, 3rd - O-line... and they would still get a quality Offensive Linemen for that 3rd rounder...

[hermhater]

When is the draft?

[Chiefster]

When is the draft?

http://www.nfl.com/draft

[chief31]

If Long is gone, I hope we don't reach and take a flyer on an O lineman just because of need. O linemen are few and far between this year. In the draft and free agency.

In my opinion, and most of the talking heads on T.V. that you lend so much credibility to usually, this is one of the best draft years for OTs in a very long time.

I would rather see us trade the pick if Long isn't there, but I won't be dissapointed if we do take Clady. And, depending on which guy we get, I won't throw a hissy if we wind up getting our OT in the second round.

As far as taking a QB in the first... Just go ahead and shoot me now. :D

[hermhater]

http://www.nfl.com/draft

Thanks for personalizing it.

[hermhater]

In my opinion, and most of the talking heads on T.V. that you lend so much credibility to usually, this is one of the best draft years for OTs in a very long time.

I would rather see us trade the pick if Long isn't there, but I won't be dissapointed if we do take Clady. And, depending on which guy we get, I won't throw a hissy if we wind up getting our OT in the second round.

As far as taking a QB in the first... Just go ahead and shoot me now. :D


Matt Ryan!

(You asked for it!)

[texaschief]

These should be the ONLY 3 options the Chiefs should do with their #5 pick.

1) Draft J. Long
2) Draft Vernon Gholston
3) Trade to Cowboys for 2 #1 picks and a 2nd or 3rd.


PERIOD!!!! Nothing else should even be talked about!!!!

If Matt Ryan is still on the board, I'm affraid Chan Gailey will talk them into drafting Ryan. That's just my gut feeling.

[hermhater]

You know what?

I think we will get Chris Long, and I am happy with that.

[chief31]

I'd still be satisfied with drafting Clady there, or trading down just a few spots with either N.O, or Cincinnati. (There are other spots that we could trade to as well.)

[hermhater]

I'd still be satisfied with drafting Clady there, or trading down just a few spots with either N.O, or Cincinnati. (There are other spots that we could trade to as well.)

Do we get Brees or Ocho Cinco in that trade?

[DrunkHillbilly]

I'd still be satisfied with drafting Clady there, or trading down just a few spots with either N.O, or Cincinnati. (There are other spots that we could trade to as well.)
I think Clady is a reach. I would much rather trade the pick.

[Chiefster]

Thanks for personalizing it.


Meh!

I do what I can. :D

[texaschief]

I think Clady is a reach. I would much rather trade the pick.

I agree. Clady IS a reach at #5. If he's the guy we want, we need to trade down and pick up more picks.

[nigeriannightmare]

a QB only after other needs have been met!! OL and CB are our (first)needs.

I know the more pressing needs are OL and CB, but to read an article in which the chiefs are analyzing Matt Ryan's strenths and weaknesses was just a l ittle weird to me.

[chief31]

I think Clady is a reach. I would much rather trade the pick.


I agree. Clady IS a reach at #5. If he's the guy we want, we need to trade down and pick up more picks.

I don't think it would be a huge reach, as if Jake Long were not in this class, then Clady would be ranked higher. But that is just my opinion.

[DrunkHillbilly]

I don't think it would be a huge reach, as if Jake Long were not in this class, then Clady would be ranked higher. But that is just my opinion.
My point is that Clady is no where near the lineman Long is. I don't want to take a chance on a flyer and have him turn out to be a bust ( anything short of an absolute stud at #5 overall ) when we could trade the pick for possibly a small bundle of picks or even a player trade.

[chief31]

My point is that Clady is no where near the lineman Long is. I don't want to take a chance on a flyer and have him turn out to be a bust ( anything short of an absolute stud at #5 overall ) when we could trade the pick for possibly a small bundle of picks or even a player trade.


No doubt, I would rather trade down. But if the Chiefs can't find a decent trade, then I don't think that we should use our #5 pick to add a fifth starting LB, with the void of starters on the o-line and at CB.

[texaschief]

No doubt, I would rather trade down. But if the Chiefs can't find a decent trade, then I don't think that we should use our #5 pick to add a fifth starting LB, with the void of starters on the o-line and at CB.

This is where teams get in trouble in the draft. You can't draft for need when your pick is going to be an obvious reach. You just pick the best available player. If you can't find a trade partner, that's all you can do. You can't reach.....ESPECIALLY at #5.

[chief31]

This is where teams get in trouble in the draft. You can't draft for need when your pick is going to be an obvious reach. You just pick the best available player. If you can't find a trade partner, that's all you can do. You can't reach.....ESPECIALLY at #5.

That is just as foolish as drafting for position, regardless.

You can't draft a RB if you have three studs already. Clady isn't some major reach, maybe a slight reach, but nothing absurd.

By your reasoning here, some teams would have to find room for eight or nine players at a single position.

Every team ranks players in the draft based on their value to that particular team. If I already have Ladanian Tonlinson and Michael Turner, how valuable is a RB in the first round?

Not as valuable to me, as he is to a team without a solid starting RB.

Along with how good you feel a player is, you have to weigh-in how usefull he would be to building your team. And fillinf-out your depth-chart is far more important than having Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees all on the same team.

Basically, with a first round pick, you want to find a starter, not a backup. And if I already have a starter that I like, then why draft his backup?

Slight exaggeration, but I don't want to field a team that has five starting LBs and three starting offensive linemen because the league forces me to field five offensive linemen, and three or four linebackers.

[DrunkHillbilly]

No doubt, I would rather trade down. But if the Chiefs can't find a decent trade, then I don't think that we should use our #5 pick to add a fifth starting LB, with the void of starters on the o-line and at CB.
Totally agree. It would have to be the right player obviously.

[DrunkHillbilly]

That is just as foolish as drafting for position, regardless.

You can't draft a RB if you have three studs already. Clady isn't some major reach, maybe a slight reach, but nothing absurd.

By your reasoning here, some teams would have to find room for eight or nine players at a single position.

Every team ranks players in the draft based on their value to that particular team. If I already have Ladanian Tonlinson and Michael Turner, how valuable is a RB in the first round?

Not as valuable to me, as he is to a team without a solid starting RB.

Along with how good you feel a player is, you have to weigh-in how usefull he would be to building your team. And fillinf-out your depth-chart is far more important than having Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees all on the same team.

Basically, with a first round pick, you want to find a starter, not a backup. And if I already have a starter that I like, then why draft his backup?

Slight exaggeration, but I don't want to field a team that has five starting LBs and three starting offensive linemen because the league forces me to field five offensive linemen, and three or four linebackers.

What about drafting that player to trade to a different team? This is where I think they could be working the phones a little to benefit us.

[chief31]

What about drafting that player to trade to a different team? This is where I think they could be working the phones a little to benefit us.

I totally agree with that concept. I brought up that idea somewhere awhile back. It's basically the same as trading down, except that you can wait and see if the player you want down at the other spot is still available.

The Chargers drafted Eli Manning, and would have kept him, had Rivers been gone at the Giants' pick. But, since the guy they were willing to trade for was still available when the Giants' spot came up, they got the deal done.

[hermhater]

I totally agree with that concept. I brought up that idea somewhere awhile back. It's basically the same as trading down, except that you can wait and see if the player you want down at the other spot is still available.

The Chargers drafted Eli Manning, and would have kept him, had Rivers been gone at the Giants' pick. But, since the guy they were willing to trade for was still available when the Giants' spot came up, they got the deal done.

So that's how that whole thing went down.

I was under the impression Eli refused to play in SD, and was gonna hold out if he didn't get traded.

[chief31]

So that's how that whole thing went down.

I was under the impression Eli refused to play in SD, and was gonna hold out if he didn't get traded.

He had made that threat, but he would have played, had they not traded him. IMO.

[hermhater]

He had made that threat, but he would have played, had they not traded him. IMO.

I would wager you are right.

Who was that guy that wouldn't play for Seattle(Some QB?) about 10 years ago, and after skipping the draft no one wanted him?

[chief31]

I would wager you are right.

Who was that guy that wouldn't play for Seattle(?) about 10 years ago, and after skipping the draft no one wanted him?

Couldn't tell ya off-hand.

[hermhater]

Couldn't tell ya off-hand.

Well then tell me on-hand.

Dang mods...

[rbedgood]

Including you and jaytray...one and a half!!

Jaytray must be huge...

[rbedgood]

Some guy named Elway did that to the Colts too!!!

[hermhater]

Some guy named Elway did that to the Colts too!!!

He did?

I never knew that.

Interesting...