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hermhater
03-04-2008, 04:45 AM
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By Nick Athan (javascript:location.href='http://search.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=4&c=1&search=1&sskey=%22' + escape('Nick Athan') + '%22&sssiteid=101';)
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Posted Mar 3, 2008



Since free agency started last Friday, the Chiefs havenít shown much relative activity, and thatís frustrating to some fans. Theyíre looking for their team to do something special this offseason. They want to be shocked and feel the first true rebuilding effort this organization has made in 19 years will prove to be exciting.

But at the moment, there isnít anything shocking going on. To date the Chiefs have cut 16 players and added only two - linebacker DeMorrio Williams and fullback Oliver Hoyte (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2982079).

Whereís the rest?

Itís hasnít arrived in Kansas City just yet, but itís out there. When we talked with head coach Herm Edwards last month, he stated that KCís offseason plan would focus around the NFL draft. So far, heís holding to that course.

So with so many other teams going crazy the last four days, you have to give the Chiefs credit for sticking to their plan. Itís not easy, especially for Edwards, who has drawn some heat after a 4-12 season and is clearly at the epicenter of the change in philosophy.

But no one is panicking. Right now the Chiefs are sifting through game film and deciding which players might be a good fit in Kansas City. But thatís the key Ė they have to be good players. The Chiefs canít reach (and overspend) like Edwardsí former team, the New York Jets, has since free agency began.

Hereís who the Jets have added to their roster in four days:

OL Damien Woody (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2981857) (Lions) - $25.5 Million
LB Calvin Pace (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2990367) (Cardinals) - $42 Million
G Alan Faneca (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2981404) (Steelers) - $40 Million
DT Kris Jenkins (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2985930) (Panthers) - $35 Million

Thatís $142.5 million. The Chiefs have spent around $15 million. Both the Jets and Chiefs went 4-12 last season, but I maintain the Chiefs will win more games than the Jets next season.

Free Agency is about spending your money wisely. The Jets are foolish for overspending on players who all have question marks, but they have to, because Eric Mangini knows this is a do or die season if heís to remain in New York.

The same could be said for Edwards, despite the fact team owner Clark Hunt has given him a thumbs up. Hunt is anticipating improvement in 2008, or else.

But Edwards and Mangini are going about change in different ways. Who will be more successful in the long run? My money is still on Edwards.

Chiefs Notes:

Guard Rex Hadnot (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2979835) (Dolphins) - He could be the first of the next group of players to visit the Chiefs. He left Cleveland without receiving a contract offer, which makes you wonder why the Browns and the Titans didnít sign him. Hadnot wasnít happy the Dolphins let him go, but based on the fact guys like Damien Woody and Jacob Bell (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=3064722) got rich, he has to be asking for similar money. Teams are not willing to pay it at the moment.

Guard Jake Scott (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=3105068) - He might be the best guard on the open market but heís yet to set up any visits. Will he come to the Chiefs? We donít think so. The concern is his size. Heís not a mauler, the type of lineman Chan Gailey covets. If this line is going to make the jump back to elite status, it needs two guards and a center that all weigh over 300 pounds. That means Scott likely isnít a good fit for the Chiefs.

Fullback Boomer Grigsby (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2980127) - To date four teams have stepped up in their efforts to lure the Chiefs converted linebacker. Grigsby has several offers but would like to stay in Kansas City despite the fact the team picked up Oliver Hoyte.

Tight End Michael Gaines (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2706852) - The Chiefs had him in on Sunday but didnít offer him a contract. Monday he was off the market as he signed a long-term contract with the Detroit Lions.

Kicker Jason Elam (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=2983616) - NFL.com reported that Elam was going to take his show on the road in the next couple of weeks. One of the teams reportedly on his list is the Kansas City Chiefs, but per our source in the organization, it appears KCís only gameplan might be to get Denver to overspend to retain Elam. These two teams have entered into these types of shenanigans before. When Brian Griese (http://den.scout.com/a.z?s=101&p=8&c=1&nid=3630241) was a free agent a few years ago, a report out of Kansas City indicated the Chiefs would offer him a large contract. Denver took notice and gave him $40 million.


Nick.

texaschief
03-04-2008, 10:40 PM
I for one think this is the best strategy. I like this approach. Just because you HAVE the money, doesn't mean you should SPEND the money on marginal talent this year. If the guys you need aren't out there, wait. If you can't hit on EVERY SINGLE NEED you have for the upcoming season, the key is patience because next offseason brings a whole new crop of Free Agents.

Nobody in this organization, NFL, or the City thinks this team is on the verge of competing for a Super Bowl this season and as an organization, you have to take the approach that this is going to take more than one offseason to rebuild.

I like the fact that they wouldn't bite on Faine's asking price. He is vastly overpaid. Brown no longer wanted to kick outside which is understandable. I like the "Cold War" games the Chiefs are playing with the Broncos over their kicker.

I know nobody here likes what's going on, but i for one have agreed with almost EVERY approach the Chiefs have taken this offseason.

hermhater
03-05-2008, 04:43 AM
I for one think this is the best strategy. I like this approach. Just because you HAVE the money, doesn't mean you should SPEND the money on marginal talent this year. If the guys you need aren't out there, wait. If you can't hit on EVERY SINGLE NEED you have for the upcoming season, the key is patience because next offseason brings a whole new crop of Free Agents.

Nobody in this organization, NFL, or the City thinks this team is on the verge of competing for a Super Bowl this season and as an organization, you have to take the approach that this is going to take more than one offseason to rebuild.

I like the fact that they wouldn't bite on Faine's asking price. He is vastly overpaid. Brown no longer wanted to kick outside which is understandable. I like the "Cold War" games the Chiefs are playing with the Broncos over their kicker.

I know nobody here likes what's going on, but i for one have agreed with almost EVERY approach the Chiefs have taken this offseason.

I'm sure glad you're here to point out how long it's gonna take for us to get back to a championship!

:bananen_smilies046:

chief31
03-05-2008, 06:18 AM
I for one think this is the best strategy. I like this approach. Just because you HAVE the money, doesn't mean you should SPEND the money on marginal talent this year. If the guys you need aren't out there, wait. If you can't hit on EVERY SINGLE NEED you have for the upcoming season, the key is patience because next offseason brings a whole new crop of Free Agents.

Nobody in this organization, NFL, or the City thinks this team is on the verge of competing for a Super Bowl this season and as an organization, you have to take the approach that this is going to take more than one offseason to rebuild.

I like the fact that they wouldn't bite on Faine's asking price. He is vastly overpaid. Brown no longer wanted to kick outside which is understandable. I like the "Cold War" games the Chiefs are playing with the Broncos over their kicker.

I know nobody here likes what's going on, but i for one have agreed with almost EVERY approach the Chiefs have taken this offseason.

I too agree that we don't want to go out and spend big money on free agents.

But, this will be Herms third offseason, not his first. Noone is asking him to rebuild in one offseason. We are asking him to do it in three offseasons, and it isn't looking too good so far.

I will keep my fingers crossed.

m0ef0e
03-05-2008, 12:56 PM
I too agree that we don't want to go out and spend big money on free agents.

But, this will be Herms third offseason, not his first. Noone is asking him to rebuild in one offseason. We are asking him to do it in three offseasons, and it isn't looking too good so far.

I will keep my fingers crossed.

Three strikes and Herm is out?? :mob:

hermhater
03-05-2008, 01:44 PM
Three strikes and Herm is out?? :mob:

God I wish this was baseball!

:lol:

texaschief
03-05-2008, 03:35 PM
I too agree that we don't want to go out and spend big money on free agents.

But, this will be Herms third offseason, not his first. Noone is asking him to rebuild in one offseason. We are asking him to do it in three offseasons, and it isn't looking too good so far.

I will keep my fingers crossed.

this is his first offseason where he'll be concentrating on offense. he's brought our defense from close to dead last to AT LEAST middle of the pack. The Chiefs' total defense was ranked 13th in the league according to ahead of Oakland, Denver AND San Diego and just behind Jacksonville and Green Bay.

He drafted Bowe...(an obvious Bust) and Croyle (presumably next year's starting QB) and Kolby Smith (our #2 RB) and Jeff Webb (presumably our #2 WR). He drafted all these guys while he was trying to rebuild our defense.

What makes you think he won't be able to draft ANY good offensive players in this draft?
Just because they didn't draft any Olinemen in the past couple years?

rbedgood
03-05-2008, 03:45 PM
this is his first offseason where he'll be concentrating on offense. he's brought our defense from close to dead last to AT LEAST middle of the pack. The Chiefs' total defense was ranked 13th in the league according to ahead of Oakland, Denver AND San Diego and just behind Jacksonville and Green Bay.

He drafted Bowe...(an obvious Bust) and Croyle (presumably next year's starting QB) and Kolby Smith (our #2 RB) and Jeff Webb (presumably our #2 WR). He drafted all these guys while he was trying to rebuild our defense.

What makes you think he won't be able to draft ANY good offensive players in this draft?
Just because they didn't draft any Olinemen in the past couple years?

O-line...Herm don't need no stinkin' O-line...

texaschief
03-05-2008, 03:48 PM
O-line...Herm don't need no stinkin' O-line...

neither does Tom Brady apparently.

chief31
03-06-2008, 07:21 AM
this is his first offseason where he'll be concentrating on offense. he's brought our defense from close to dead last to AT LEAST middle of the pack. The Chiefs' total defense was ranked 13th in the league according to ahead of Oakland, Denver AND San Diego and just behind Jacksonville and Green Bay.

He drafted Bowe...(an obvious Bust) and Croyle (presumably next year's starting QB) and Kolby Smith (our #2 RB) and Jeff Webb (presumably our #2 WR). He drafted all these guys while he was trying to rebuild our defense.

What makes you think he won't be able to draft ANY good offensive players in this draft?
Just because they didn't draft any Olinemen in the past couple years?

I said my fingers are crossed. Meaning that I hope he can.

And it has been eight drafts that Herm hasn't drafted o-linemen.

Buu-uut... I think he has to this offseason. Either way, who gets more than three years to rebuild? Offense and defense. Who gets that kind of time?

I think that this team had better start to shine, or Hermie could be getting his walking papers.

wolfpack
03-06-2008, 10:00 AM
they day of "rebuilding" though drafts are over. fans wont wait 5 years anymore. fans dont buy tickets,merchandise,ect it hits the owners pocketbooks.
i do agree in not going overboard on FA spending and spend it on younger players but there is OG`S on the market that is better than we have and has started.(Scott,Starks,ect). these are the people that can fill in now and help out.
Hermmie has never drafted any kind of o-lineman. from the jets to us.

Hayvern
03-06-2008, 10:23 AM
I am just shocked that KC would not be luring at least ONE o-lineman to the team. We are so short at that position, and have so many holes to fill that I just cannot believe they are not looking at least one player to come in.

Look, the fans, those outside of Chiefscrowd.com are going to be asking for Croyle's head on a plate if Edwards fields another O Line like he did last year.

Chiefster
03-06-2008, 10:22 PM
Ugh!

kcmodore
03-07-2008, 12:39 AM
I think JA will get a long term contract but the big money won't be spent until the draft.

hermhater
03-07-2008, 01:11 AM
Have I mentioned how much I hate Herm lately?

Three7s
03-07-2008, 01:12 AM
You aren't hermhater for nothing!

hermhater
03-07-2008, 01:15 AM
You aren't hermhater for nothing!

Too true!

:bananen_smilies046:

Chiefster
03-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Carl is going to do whatever puts coin back into the Hunt's pocket. How else do you think he has held on to his job for the past 18 years or so? trust me, it isn't his five year plan to get to the Super Bowl.

hermhater
03-08-2008, 04:11 PM
Carl is going to do whatever puts coin back into the Hunt's pocket. How else do you think he has held on to his job for the past 18 years or so? trust me, it isn't his five year plan to get to the Super Bowl.

Disgusting!

:mob: