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YZILLA
03-18-2008, 07:50 PM
Posted: Today 1:40 PM
Oakland paying j.russel $20 mil bonus? and hall?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3299615


Al Davis likes to talk about the Raiders' commitment to excellence. This offseason, the world is wondering if he's committed to debt.
The pending DeAngelo Hall (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6767) trade, which won't be completed until Hall agrees to an Asante Samuel (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6456)-like contract, is Davis' latest venture into a wild spending spree. He gave safety Gibril Wilson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6895) a six-year, $39 million contract. Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5968) received a seven-year, $52.5 million deal. Offensive tackle Kwame Harris (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6362) moved across the bay from the 49ers for a three-year, $14 million deal. Wide receiver Javon Walker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5906) caught a six-year, $55 million pass.

With quarterback JaMarcus Russell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=8255) receiving a $19.9 million option bonus this year, the Raiders' payroll has soared to $137 million -- $21 million over the salary cap -- and Davis isn't done yet. His plan is to keep CB Nnamdi Asomugha (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6367), whose franchise tag will count $9.465 million against the cap. Davis also plans to keep the No. 4 pick in the draft, which will net a contract worth between $5 million and $9 million a year. Davis, impatient about the team's football fortunes (only 19 victories over the past five seasons), is going against the financial bottom line to improve the team's football bottom line.
In 2005, he tried to give the franchise a jolt by trading for wide receiver Randy Moss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4262) and making free-agent moves such as the signings of RB LaMont Jordan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5496), DE Derrick Burgess (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5510) and others. It didn't work, and Moss became so disinterested in football in Oakland that he was traded to New England for the fourth-round pick.
Those moves seem modest compared to 2008, and the interesting part about it is that Davis is the one pulling the trigger. After a disappointing 4-12 season, Davis removed head coach Lane Kiffin from the personnel decision-making process. It's Davis himself working the deals with the help of selected front-office employees.
Unlike the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=tam) and other cost-conscious teams, Davis isn't looking for bargains. He didn't blink about coughing up $107.5 million in contracts for Kelly, coming off ACL surgery, and Walker, who is coming off a knee injury that limited him to eight games in Denver last season. Last weekend, Davis instructed negotiators within the organization to make the Hall deal a priority after agreeing to trade terms with the Falcons.
Recently, Davis sold non-voting shares in the Raiders, which gave him the money to go on this spending spree and invest in so many players.

Still, the timing of these moves is unusual because of the uncertainty of the head coaching position. Kiffin comes to work each day not knowing for sure if he's going to be the head coach by the start of the 2008 season.
Reports surfaced in January that Kiffin was asked to resign. He didn't, and even though the Raiders have denied the resignation story, numerous sources have backed up the tenuous relationship between the coach and owner. One sign of the discord was Davis' hiring of James Lofton as wide receivers coach without getting Kiffin's blessing.
Of course, Davis has always believed in getting the best players to win, and he's showing an aggressiveness reminiscent of the Al Davis of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.
Davis believes in man-to-man cornerback play. Putting Hall at cornerback with Asomugha gives the Raiders their best man-to-man cornerback tandem since Charles Woodson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4271) and Eric Allen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=1005). In many ways, Davis is flashing back to the Mike Haynes-Lester Hayes days in making this trade. It probably means former first-round choice Fabian Washington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7199) will be traded.
Davis believes in big-play passing ability. With strong-armed Russell at quarterback, the Raiders added some deep speed with Walker and Drew Carter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6922), who signed a one-year deal for around $2 million. Ronald Curry (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6092) will be the possession receiver.
Kelly received his big payday to make the conversion from defensive end to defensive tackle, replacing the retiring Warren Sapp (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3140). Davis is hoping Kelly's athletic ability will replace the inside pass rush lost with Sapp's departure.

The Wilson signing was one of the most debatable. The Raiders' defensive schemes require their safeties to play more man coverage. Two years ago, the Raiders drafted Michael Huff (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7756) in the first round because of his coverage ability at safety, but he has been up and down. Safety is a tough job with the Raiders, but Davis didn't mind making Wilson the third highest paid safety in football.
Not everything has gone right for the Raiders. While the team was wrapping up the Kelly contract, it lost defensive end Chris Clemons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6704), an eight-sack pass-rusher on the rise. He signed for less than $3 million a year with the Eagles.
Once the Hall trade is completed, it creates problems in trying to keep Asomugha. He's on the one-year franchise tender, and he's not going to sign for much less than the six-year, $57 million deal given to Samuel. To keep him as a franchise player next year, the price goes to $11.35 million.
But Davis isn't thinking about the green. He's thinking about the silver and black. He's just trying to win, baby.

royalswin100games
03-18-2008, 08:31 PM
Please let him continue to make decisions for that team until he dies.

:toast2:

DrunkHillbilly
03-18-2008, 09:01 PM
Please let him continue to make decisions for that team until he dies.

:toast2:
While I agree that Davis is an idiot, I also believe that team is significantly better than it was at the end of last season. Wish I could say the same for our team!!!

royalswin100games
03-18-2008, 09:03 PM
While I agree that Davis is an idiot, I also believe that team is significantly better than it was at the end of last season. Wish I could say the same for our team!!!

You are correct as far as talent goes. I guess we will have to wait and see.

DrunkHillbilly
03-18-2008, 09:05 PM
You are correct as far as talent goes. I guess we will have to wait and see.
Wait and see what???? How many games ahead of us they finish? SUCKS!!!!!

royalswin100games
03-18-2008, 09:07 PM
Wait and see what???? How many games ahead of us they finish? SUCKS!!!!!

Maybe we can wish they all will pull a Randy Moss like when he went to Oakland.

:bananen_smilies046:

YZILLA
03-18-2008, 09:57 PM
All this is a bandaid only and when they fall apart it will be like ripping a bandaid off.They will still suck this year and next and all the money he has spent has been for nothing. They will not be better. The reciever from Denver is coming off a knee repair, the guy they already had and spent millions on is coming off injuries, Hall is ok at best( if they get him). He cannot cover any of the best recievers one on one. They are gonna stink and we will have the last laugh going the route we are building young and developing. Now that you can wait and see !

YZILLA
03-18-2008, 09:57 PM
oh and F*** the raiders !

royalswin100games
03-18-2008, 10:00 PM
oh and F*** the raiders !

I concur.

:bananen_smilies046:

DMN
03-18-2008, 10:39 PM
If they keep spending like this how will they keep up the fan promotions like "free switchblade sunday"? not to mention the annual maintenance costs of the Bail Bonds kiosk inside the stadium.

Seriously F@#K the raiders.

royalswin100games
03-18-2008, 10:44 PM
If they keep spending like this how will they keep up the fan promotions like "free switchblade sunday"? not to mention the annual maintenance costs of the Bail Bonds kiosk inside the stadium.

Seriously F@#K the raiders.

:lol: All I gotta say is at least you don't have to be subjected to these idiot fans everyday. I can't drive down the street without seeing an idiot sticker on the back of a vehicle.

DMN
03-18-2008, 10:51 PM
:lol: All I gotta say is at least you don't have to be subjected to these idiot fans everyday. I can't drive down the street without seeing an idiot sticker on the back of a vehicle.

Oh man dont tell me you live in oakland. I am sorry. A guy walked into my store the other day wearing a raiders hat and I wouldnt even say hi to him.

royalswin100games
03-18-2008, 10:53 PM
Oh man dont tell me you live in oakland. I am sorry. A guy walked into my store the other day wearing a raiders hat and I wouldnt even say hi to him.

Nah, socal, but the friggen idiots are down here too. They're mixed in with the dolt fans.

Coach
03-19-2008, 12:17 AM
Spending moneyyin free agency to make your team better can make a lot of sense. But they have way overspent on margiial players. I think this off-season will haunt the Raiders for several years to come. The Jets have thrown out some huge dough as well. Mangini must be fearful for his job.

AkChief49
03-19-2008, 02:59 AM
Let Al keep spending that money. This isn't baseball, you cannot buy a championship!

DrunkHillbilly
03-19-2008, 03:05 AM
All this is a bandaid only and when they fall apart it will be like ripping a bandaid off.They will still suck this year and next and all the money he has spent has been for nothing. They will not be better. The reciever from Denver is coming off a knee repair, the guy they already had and spent millions on is coming off injuries, Hall is ok at best( if they get him). He cannot cover any of the best recievers one on one. They are gonna stink and we will have the last laugh going the route we are building young and developing. Now that you can wait and see !
I'm not sure who you have been watching but Hall is an outstanding player! He covers guys one on one all the time.

hermhater
03-19-2008, 03:13 AM
Agree with DH on this one. Hall is one of the premier CB's and will be for at least a couple more years.

Hayvern
03-19-2008, 04:08 AM
:lol: All I gotta say is at least you don't have to be subjected to these idiot fans everyday. I can't drive down the street without seeing an idiot sticker on the back of a vehicle.

OMG how that is so true, I know you are in my area out here, I had to put a huge Arrowhead on the back of my truck just to try and upset the cart a little bit.

In the end, I know that I am going to be eating a lot of derision from Raiders fans out here when the Chiefs finish 4 and 12, in last place and 2 games behind the Raiders in the division.

At least I can say that at least we don't have Al Davis. Not much I know, but it is reassuring.

Canada
03-19-2008, 08:56 AM
OMG how that is so true, I know you are in my area out here, I had to put a huge Arrowhead on the back of my truck just to try and upset the cart a little bit.

In the end, I know that I am going to be eating a lot of derision from Raiders fans out here when the Chiefs finish 4 and 12, in last place and 2 games behind the Raiders in the division.

At least I can say that at least we don't have Al Davis. Not much I know, but it is reassuring.

It never ceases to amaze me...the amount of optimism that people have about our team. Possibly the psychic abilities considering no one even know who will be playing on the team next season. Can you tell me the winning lottery numbers too? :sign0098:

Hayvern
03-19-2008, 10:27 AM
Can you tell me the winning lottery numbers too? :sign0098:
Actually I can, I just can't tell you when they are going to win, nor can I tell you all the numbers on the same day.

No one knows who is playing on the team, but we certainly know who is not!

Canada
03-19-2008, 10:58 AM
Actually I can, I just can't tell you when they are going to win, nor can I tell you all the numbers on the same day.

No one knows who is playing on the team, but we certainly know who is not!

Yeah, the guys who took us to 4-12. We are going to suck no matter what happens!! :sign0098:

DrunkHillbilly
03-19-2008, 01:17 PM
It never ceases to amaze me...the amount of optimism that people have about our team. Possibly the psychic abilities considering no one even know who will be playing on the team next season. Can you tell me the winning lottery numbers too? :sign0098:
Another 10 or 15 years of this and your optimism may subside a bit. That's what my experience has been. Been watchin the same s*** for too many years!! It just seems like some of the teams that sucked for soooo long have either been to the Superbowl or won it. We on the other hand continue to get bounced when we are lucky enough to make the playoffs! One constant for the last 20 years is Peterson!! Think it's time for a change??:bananen_smilies046:

YZILLA
03-19-2008, 02:52 PM
I agree hall is a great player , all I am saying is show my one of the Top Tier recievers he has shut down one on one ?

rbedgood
03-19-2008, 02:58 PM
Hall can play well against big, physical receivers (ala Terrell Owens)...he has trouble against the small, quick guys (ala Chris Chambers, Brandon Stokely, or Brandon Marshall)...oh wait, are those guys all in his new division.

Hall is a very good corner, however he IS NOT worth the $70 million he was signed for...7 years, and around $50 million would've been good value for the salary cap. My family and friends that are Raiders fans (I pity the fools...) are not pleased!

DrunkHillbilly
03-19-2008, 04:21 PM
I agree hall is a great player , all I am saying is show my one of the Top Tier recievers he has shut down one on one ?
He shuts down top tier receivers as weel as ANY corner in the league. Ask TO. Hall put him on his *** a few times!!!

Canada
03-19-2008, 06:18 PM
Another 10 or 15 years of this and your optimism may subside a bit. That's what my experience has been. Been watchin the same **** for too many years!! It just seems like some of the teams that sucked for soooo long have either been to the Superbowl or won it. We on the other hand continue to get bounced when we are lucky enough to make the playoffs! One constant for the last 20 years is Peterson!! Think it's time for a change??:bananen_smilies046:

No it won't. If you know they suck then why watch?

DrunkHillbilly
03-19-2008, 06:33 PM
No it won't. If you know they suck then why watch?
Don't start with the whole "fan" thing!! I've been watching the Chiefs for 36 years now! My point was I used to be as optimistic as you but since they haven't made it to the Superbowl in my lifetime and haven't been to the AFC Championship very often, I would like to see a change in the way things are done! You can't say they have done that!! After about 10 years of Peterson not getting the job done, something should have changed. ALL of the other teams in football and all other sports sure do!!

I know you don't agree but it sucks to know your team is going to have a bad season!! And yes, I did know last season was going to suck and yes, this season is going to be a long one as well. Doesn't mean I'm going to watch any less or become any less of a fan but I am tired of watching teams that have been worse than us for longer, pass us by and make their teams better and get to and win Superbowls!!!

Canada
03-19-2008, 06:44 PM
Don't start with the whole "fan" thing!! I've been watching the Chiefs for 36 years now! My point was I used to be as optimistic as you but since they haven't made it to the Superbowl in my lifetime and haven't been to the AFC Championship very often, I would like to see a change in the way things are done! You can't say they have done that!! After about 10 years of Peterson not getting the job done, something should have changed. ALL of the other teams in football and all other sports sure do!!

I know you don't agree but it sucks to know your team is going to have a bad season!! And yes, I did know last season was going to suck and yes, this season is going to be a long one as well. Doesn't mean I'm going to watch any less or become any less of a fan but I am tired of watching teams that have been worse than us for longer, pass us by and make their teams better and get to and win Superbowls!!!

I did not question you "fandom" I just asked why you watch. I hear a ton of people who piss and moan about the team no matter what they do. I don't understand why they watch. I am not saying anyone is less of a fan, I just don't understand the logic. I like watching sports becase you don't KNOW until the season is over, until then we are all guessing what is gonna happen. How many giants fans had this conversation last season?

DrunkHillbilly
03-19-2008, 06:58 PM
I did not question you "fandom" I just asked why you watch. I hear a ton of people who piss and moan about the team no matter what they do. I don't understand why they watch. I am not saying anyone is less of a fan, I just don't understand the logic. I like watching sports becase you don't KNOW until the season is over, until then we are all guessing what is gonna happen. How many giants fans had this conversation last season?
You know as well as I that as a fan of a certain team, you have some idea of what your team is going to be like in a given season. IMO, this is what fans do. They wonder why they aren't better each year. If you don't win the Big One that is!! How many years is a fan of a team that hasn't been to the Superbowl or conference championship in forever suppose to sit idley by and say nothing?

royalswin100games
03-19-2008, 07:02 PM
Hall can play well against big, physical receivers (ala Terrell Owens)...he has trouble against the small, quick guys (ala Chris Chambers, Brandon Stokely, or Brandon Marshall)...oh wait, are those guys all in his new division.

Hall is a very good corner, however he IS NOT worth the $70 million he was signed for...7 years, and around $50 million would've been good value for the salary cap. My family and friends that are Raiders fans (I pity the fools...) are not pleased!

Chambers is pretty big isn't he?

Canada
03-19-2008, 07:50 PM
You know as well as I that as a fan of a certain team, you have some idea of what your team is going to be like in a given season. IMO, this is what fans do. They wonder why they aren't better each year. If you don't win the Big One that is!! How many years is a fan of a team that hasn't been to the Superbowl or conference championship in forever suppose to sit idley by and say nothing?

I didn't say people shouldn't say anything, but can you honestly say that there is anything positive being said about the team at all? Is there no upside to the team whatsoever. You rarely hear that....I keep hearing the ever so popular "CP had his run and it is time to go" or "Herm will find a way to screw it up" posts. How about the Brodie will probablly look better next season with some protection, or Bowe is a great WR threat, Tony G should have another Pro Bowl season, our defense is gonna kick some *** this season. There is hardly anything positive ever said on here and if it does get said then you are obviously just a homer and you are unrealistic. I spent the entire offseason last year saying the same thing, but people would prefer to be able to bring up their posts from last year and say I told you they suck. There is a fine line between being realistic and being downright negative for the sake of being negative. Too bad the Chiefs don't have any commitment to winning.

royalswin100games
03-19-2008, 08:03 PM
I didn't say people shouldn't say anything, but can you honestly say that there is anything positive being said about the team at all? Is there no upside to the team whatsoever. You rarely hear that....I keep hearing the ever so popular "CP had his run and it is time to go" or "Herm will find a way to screw it up" posts. How about the Brodie will probablly look better next season with some protection, or Bowe is a great WR threat, Tony G should have another Pro Bowl season, our defense is gonna kick some *** this season. There is hardly anything positive ever said on here and if it does get said then you are obviously just a homer and you are unrealistic. I spent the entire offseason last year saying the same thing, but people would prefer to be able to bring up their posts from last year and say I told you they suck. There is a fine line between being realistic and being downright negative for the sake of being negative. Too bad the Chiefs don't have any commitment to winning.

Roger that...

GO CHIEFS!!!
:bananen_smilies046:

Hayvern
03-19-2008, 08:26 PM
I didn't say people shouldn't say anything, but can you honestly say that there is anything positive being said about the team at all? Is there no upside to the team whatsoever. You rarely hear that....I keep hearing the ever so popular "CP had his run and it is time to go" or "Herm will find a way to screw it up" posts. How about the Brodie will probablly look better next season with some protection, or Bowe is a great WR threat, Tony G should have another Pro Bowl season, our defense is gonna kick some *** this season. There is hardly anything positive ever said on here and if it does get said then you are obviously just a homer and you are unrealistic. I spent the entire offseason last year saying the same thing, but people would prefer to be able to bring up their posts from last year and say I told you they suck. There is a fine line between being realistic and being downright negative for the sake of being negative. Too bad the Chiefs don't have any commitment to winning.

These things are being said, many of them being said by me. I am the first to say that we don't know how good Croyle is going to be and I for one would like to see the kid behind a good offensive line.

We all know Gonzales is good, and we want to see all of Gonzos hard work pay off for him at some point with a superbowl ring. Dewayne Bowe had a great season, much better than Edwards would have thought since he was really not slated to play at all before Kennison got hurt.

We all know these things, but the team cannot win on the backs of one good defensive end and two good receivers. There has to be more to the puzzle and the leadership of this team does not seem to be looking for the pieces. Maybe they are and they have some remarkable moves in store for us.

Canada
03-19-2008, 09:10 PM
These things are being said, many of them being said by me. I am the first to say that we don't know how good Croyle is going to be and I for one would like to see the kid behind a good offensive line.

We all know Gonzales is good, and we want to see all of Gonzos hard work pay off for him at some point with a superbowl ring. Dewayne Bowe had a great season, much better than Edwards would have thought since he was really not slated to play at all before Kennison got hurt.

We all know these things, but the team cannot win on the backs of one good defensive end and two good receivers. There has to be more to the puzzle and the leadership of this team does not seem to be looking for the pieces. Maybe they are and they have some remarkable moves in store for us.

We all know the O line stinks, but I hear a ton of posts talking about it, we all would have liked a little more out of Free Agency and I hear a ton of posts about it. but we had to get to this point for you to acknowledge the upside of the team.

Do you truly believe that the leadership is not looking to win? Maybe the pieces you are looking for can't be found over one offseason. :bananen_smilies046:

rbedgood
03-19-2008, 09:17 PM
Chambers is pretty big isn't he?

5'11"...

hermhater
03-20-2008, 02:16 AM
We all know the O line stinks, but I hear a ton of posts talking about it, we all would have liked a little more out of Free Agency and I hear a ton of posts about it. but we had to get to this point for you to acknowledge the upside of the team.

Do you truly believe that the leadership is not looking to win? Maybe the pieces you are looking for can't be found over one offseason. :bananen_smilies046:

Chiefs win the Super Bowl next year!

:yahoo:

royalswin100games
03-20-2008, 02:36 AM
5'11"...

210lb, not the fastest guy, but great hands.

DrunkHillbilly
03-20-2008, 02:45 AM
We all know the O line stinks, but I hear a ton of posts talking about it, we all would have liked a little more out of Free Agency and I hear a ton of posts about it. but we had to get to this point for you to acknowledge the upside of the team.

Do you truly believe that the leadership is not looking to win? Maybe the pieces you are looking for can't be found over one offseason. :bananen_smilies046:
I don't expect it to be found over 1 season.....but....How about 20????? CP's tenure with the Chiefs! Is that too much to ask for? Bowe had a good season, Tony had another Pro Bowl season, Croyle still sucks.... Where did that get us? Say what you want, I don't believe the team is as committed to winning as they should be!! No other team in ANY sport has had a GM for this long!! Period! Who's job is it to improve this team? We've had several coaches during CP's time. 31 believes the coach has as much or more say than the GM as to who plays for us. Well, none of those coaches got us anywhere. Only staple CP!! At some point, a change HAS to occur. What happens if we continue to not make it to the playoffs every year and we don't get to a Superbowl for the next 10 years? Should we keep CP on until he gets one? Obviously there is a problem here!!!

hermhater
03-20-2008, 02:56 AM
I don't expect it to be found over 1 season.....but....How about 20????? CP's tenure with the Chiefs! Is that too much to ask for? Bowe had a good season, Tony had another Pro Bowl season, Croyle still sucks.... Where did that get us? Say what you want, I don't believe the team is as committed to winning as they should be!! No other team in ANY sport has had a GM for this long!! Period! Who's job is it to improve this team? We've had several coaches during CP's time. 31 believes the coach has as much or more say than the GM as to who plays for us. Well, none of those coaches got us anywhere. Only staple CP!! At some point, a change HAS to occur. What happens if we continue to not make it to the playoffs every year and we don't get to a Superbowl for the next 10 years? Should we keep CP on until he gets one? Obviously there is a problem here!!!

Don't hold back!

:11:

Let us know how you really feel!

:lol:

Seriously though we could afford to be a bit more upbeat.

We all hate Carl, but I personally like this Darling guy we got.

Hows that for optimism?

:yahoo:

royalswin100games
03-20-2008, 03:12 AM
I have to... ahem, admit I actually root for Brodie. I have a lot of family in Alabama.

:toast2:

chief31
03-20-2008, 03:17 AM
It never ceases to amaze me...the amount of optimism that people have about our team. Possibly the psychic abilities considering no one even know who will be playing on the team next season. Can you tell me the winning lottery numbers too? :sign0098:

When the organization does something to make me feel confident about our chances, then I will be more optimistic. But when everything that I see looks like they are taking another year off, then I don't have a whole lot of optimism.

Maybe they can pull-off a Giants-type of surprise. But it would be just that for me, a surprise.


I didn't say people shouldn't say anything, but can you honestly say that there is anything positive being said about the team at all? Is there no upside to the team whatsoever. You rarely hear that....I keep hearing the ever so popular "CP had his run and it is time to go" or "Herm will find a way to screw it up" posts. How about the Brodie will probablly look better next season with some protection, or Bowe is a great WR threat, Tony G should have another Pro Bowl season, our defense is gonna kick some *** this season. There is hardly anything positive ever said on here and if it does get said then you are obviously just a homer and you are unrealistic. I spent the entire offseason last year saying the same thing, but people would prefer to be able to bring up their posts from last year and say I told you they suck. There is a fine line between being realistic and being downright negative for the sake of being negative. Too bad the Chiefs don't have any commitment to winning.

Well, until they do something to improve the pass-protection, I am not so sure that Croyle will have time in the pocket.

hermhater
03-20-2008, 03:18 AM
I have to... ahem, admit I actually root for Brodie. I have a lot of family in Alabama.

:toast2:

I like Brodie!

I don't know whether he will be able to last, but I want him to be the starter if he can get some protection and be able to have just a little bit of time to make a decision!

GO BRODIE!!!!

Canada
03-20-2008, 07:38 AM
Well, until they do something to improve the pass-protection, I am not so sure that Croyle will have time in the pocket.

I give up trying to get my point across. Criticize away. I don't listen to all the complainers anymore, but this statement is my point. NO ONE KNOWS what kind of O line we are going to have but the *****ing about it is going on all the time. Thank you to those members who
do have some good things to say. :bananen_smilies046: See u at the opener

DrunkHillbilly
03-20-2008, 01:46 PM
I give up trying to get my point across. Criticize away. I don't listen to all the complainers anymore, but this statement is my point. NO ONE KNOWS what kind of O line we are going to have but the *****ing about it is going on all the time. Thank you to those members who
do have some good things to say. :bananen_smilies046: See u at the opener
I think everyone knows your point!! You aren't the resident optimist for nothin!!! I, for one, just don't agree that I should continue to be optimistic when they don't, in my eyes, seem to be doing anything to get better. That's all. Don't go leave now just because you don't agree. Right now the Chiefs undefeated!!!!! Hows that for optimism!!:toast2: :bananen_smilies046:

Canada
03-20-2008, 01:56 PM
I think everyone knows your point!! You aren't the resident optimist for nothin!!! I, for one, just don't agree that I should continue to be optimistic when they don't, in my eyes, seem to be doing anything to get better. That's all. Don't go leave now just because you don't agree. Right now the Chiefs undefeated!!!!! Hows that for optimism!!:toast2: :bananen_smilies046:

Why would I leave now? I put up with all you dipsh!ts this long! :D :bananen_smilies046:

hermhater
03-20-2008, 01:59 PM
Why would I leave now? I put up with all you dipsh!ts this long! :D :bananen_smilies046:

Awesome!

Can't wait to see you bring the Chiefs a home opener win!!!!!

GO CANADA!!!!!



:bananen_smilies046:

royalswin100games
03-20-2008, 04:43 PM
Why would I leave now? I put up with all you dipsh!ts this long! :D :bananen_smilies046:

Get out there and play tackle dude! That beer gut should give you some leverage!

:bananen_smilies046:

DrunkHillbilly
03-20-2008, 06:37 PM
Why would I leave now? I put up with all you dipsh!ts this long! :D :bananen_smilies046:
SWEET!!! DIPSH!:bananen_smilies046: TS UNITE!!!!!!!!

Canada
03-20-2008, 06:42 PM
SWEET!!! DIPSH!:bananen_smilies046: TS UNITE!!!!!!!!

see.....you want me to stay around. :bananen_smilies046:

hermhater
03-20-2008, 07:10 PM
see.....you want me to stay around. :bananen_smilies046:

Just because you have beer!

:bananen_smilies046:

Canada
03-20-2008, 07:58 PM
Just because you have beer!

:bananen_smilies046:

Yeah, but I don't share :sign0104:

hermhater
03-20-2008, 09:47 PM
Yeah, but I don't share :sign0104:

Doesn't matter. I will still take it from you!

:bananen_smilies046:

hermhater
03-21-2008, 04:40 AM
When the organization does something to make me feel confident about our chances, then I will be more optimistic. But when everything that I see looks like they are taking another year off, then I don't have a whole lot of optimism.

Maybe they can pull-off a Giants-type of surprise. But it would be just that for me, a surprise.



Well, until they do something to improve the pass-protection, I am not so sure that Croyle will have time in the pocket.


I give up trying to get my point across. Criticize away. I don't listen to all the complainers anymore, but this statement is my point. NO ONE KNOWS what kind of O line we are going to have but the *****ing about it is going on all the time. Thank you to those members who
do have some good things to say. :bananen_smilies046: See u at the opener


Why would I leave now? I put up with all you dipsh!ts this long! :D :bananen_smilies046:


Awesome!

Can't wait to see you bring the Chiefs a home opener win!!!!!

GO CANADA!!!!!



:bananen_smilies046:


Get out there and play tackle dude! That beer gut should give you some leverage!

:bananen_smilies046:


SWEET!!! DIPSH!:bananen_smilies046: TS UNITE!!!!!!!!


see.....you want me to stay around. :bananen_smilies046:

I don't know what that last statement means, but it sounds a lot like you're thinking of becoming a Buffalo Bills fan to me...

When were you thinking of leaving????

:bananen_smilies046:

Hayvern
03-21-2008, 10:22 AM
I don't know what that last statement means, but it sounds a lot like you're thinking of becoming a Buffalo Bills fan to me...



Not that there is anything wrong with that, some of my best friends are Bills fans.

Canada
03-21-2008, 11:11 AM
I don't know what that last statement means, but it sounds a lot like you're thinking of becoming a Buffalo Bills fan to me...

When were you thinking of leaving????

:bananen_smilies046:

You know...sometimes you cross the line. Just don't know when to shut your fu&@in mouth faders fan. learn to handle a beer or learn to walk with my foot in your *** cause i won't forget you said it and in 170 days i will beat your midget *** into a silver and black pile of sh!t!! :bananen_smilies046:

royalswin100games
03-21-2008, 11:27 AM
You know...sometimes you cross the line. Just don't know when to shut your fu&@in mouth faders fan. learn to handle a beer or learn to walk with my foot in your *** cause i won't forget you said it and in 170 days i will beat your midget *** into a silver and black pile of sh!t!! :bananen_smilies046:

:lol:

hermhater
03-21-2008, 02:07 PM
You know...sometimes you cross the line. Just don't know when to shut your fu&@in mouth faders fan. learn to handle a beer or learn to walk with my foot in your *** cause i won't forget you said it and in 170 days i will beat your midget *** into a silver and black pile of sh!t!! :bananen_smilies046:

But you said to criticize away?

:bananen_smilies046:

Chiefster
03-21-2008, 05:07 PM
Next thing you know Al Davis will keep only to himself and refuse to bath or groom himself while groping over his blue print plans to build a new and improved Spruce Goose.

Canada
03-21-2008, 10:09 PM
But you said to criticize away?

:bananen_smilies046:

There is a consequence to every action.

hermhater
03-21-2008, 10:55 PM
There is a consequence to every action.

I'm a big boy, I can handle the consequences!!

When you get down here for the Home Opener I'll just give you two beers at all times.

You wouldn't dare punch a guy with a beer in your hands!

You might spill it!

:bananen_smilies046:

tornadospotter
03-21-2008, 11:00 PM
I'm a big boy, I can handle the consequences!!

When you get down here for the Home Opener I'll just give you two beers at all times.

You wouldn't dare punch a guy with a beer in your hands!

You might spill it!

:bananen_smilies046:
Now that is what I consider to be a personal safety plan well thought out! :D

Chiefster
03-22-2008, 02:56 AM
I'm a big boy, I can handle the consequences!!

When you get down here for the Home Opener I'll just give you two beers at all times.

You wouldn't dare punch a guy with a beer in your hands!

You might spill it!

:bananen_smilies046:

Unless he was Jack Bauer.

Canada
03-22-2008, 06:35 PM
I'm a big boy, I can handle the consequences!!

First off...you are NOT a big boy.

When you get down here for the Home Opener I'll just give you two beers at all times.

Yes you will.

You wouldn't dare punch a guy with a beer in your hands!

Yes I would.

You might spill it!

No I won't.

:bananen_smilies046:

Dipsh!t

hermhater
03-22-2008, 07:00 PM
Dipsh!t


You're gonna be eating those words come Chiefs season!

:bananen_smilies046:

Canada
03-22-2008, 07:07 PM
You're gonna be eating those words come Chiefs season!

:bananen_smilies046:

Bring it on little one!!:drunkhb:

hermhater
03-22-2008, 07:10 PM
Dipsh!t


You're gonna be eating those words come Chiefs season!

:bananen_smilies046:


Bring it on little one!!:drunkhb:

No, no, no... you misunderstand.

I meant you are literally going to be eating those words you posted when you come to the opener.

I have a special "dip" that I will be preparing just for you, and you can bet there will be "sh!t" in it ***!

:bananen_smilies046:

Canada
03-22-2008, 07:16 PM
No, no, no... you misunderstand.

I meant you are literally going to be eating those words you posted when you come to the opener.

I have a special "dip" that I will be preparing just for you, and you can bet there will be "sh!t" in it ***!

:bananen_smilies046:
I won't even notice your special dip cause it will probably be in one of your little tiny bowls...besides...i don't eat dip. I eat steak, ribs and burgers. :sign0104: Dips and vegetables cause the flu.

hermhater
03-22-2008, 07:25 PM
I won't even notice your special dip cause it will probably be in one of your little tiny bowls...besides...i don't eat dip. I eat steak, ribs and burgers. :sign0104: Dips and vegetables cause the flu.

I like 7 layer dip. That's good stuff...

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/03/71.jpg

Canada
03-22-2008, 07:29 PM
I like 7 layer dip. That's good stuff...

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/03/71.jpg

Awesome....I am sure all of the other FOOTBALL fans on the site will be glad to know that you like 7 layer dip. Do you like Oranges too? :iamwithstupid:

hermhater
03-22-2008, 07:41 PM
Awesome....I am sure all of the other FOOTBALL fans on the site will be glad to know that you like 7 layer dip. Do you like Oranges too? :iamwithstupid:

I like orange juice. Does that count?

Canada
03-22-2008, 07:42 PM
I like orange juice. Does that count?

Sure...it is not the question i asked but why wouldn't you answer a totally different question that I never asked?:sign0098:

hermhater
03-22-2008, 07:44 PM
Sure...it is not the question i asked but why wouldn't you answer a totally different question that I never asked?:sign0098:

Okay then, I do like ZigZag Oranges.

Is that better?
:bananen_smilies046:

Canada
03-22-2008, 07:45 PM
Okay then, I do like ZigZag Oranges.

Is that better?
:bananen_smilies046:

Honestly...I stopped caring a long time ago.

hermhater
03-22-2008, 07:50 PM
Honestly...I stopped caring a long time ago.

You don't care what color the package your skins come in?

Canada
03-22-2008, 07:51 PM
You don't care what color the package your skins come in?

white

hermhater
03-22-2008, 07:53 PM
white

me too

Canada
03-22-2008, 07:54 PM
alright then....Seacrest OUT!!

hermhater
03-22-2008, 07:55 PM
alright then....Seacrest OUT!!


Yep...

Always suspected it, and now we know...

The big red guy really is a homo...

Chiefster
03-23-2008, 12:50 AM
Yep...

Always suspected it, and now we know...

The big red guy really is a homo...

...sapien???

hermhater
03-23-2008, 03:41 AM
...sapien???

Homo Seacrestien.

Canada
03-23-2008, 10:01 AM
who is seacrest? i just know a guy who said that a lot

hermhater
03-23-2008, 02:28 PM
who is seacrest? i just know a guy who said that a lot

Wow.

That was convincing.

I really believe you.


http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

Canada
03-23-2008, 08:44 PM
Wow.

That was convincing.

I really believe you.


http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

Didn't he used to play corner for the Giants?

Chiefster
03-24-2008, 11:55 AM
What was this thread about???

Chiefster
03-24-2008, 11:57 AM
Considering the thread starter, this one should have been moved to another venue a long time ago.

hermhater
03-24-2008, 01:18 PM
Considering the thread starter, this one should have been moved to another venue a long time ago.

:sign0098:

rbedgood
03-24-2008, 04:32 PM
Didn't he used to play corner for the Giants?

That's Jason Sehorn...Seacrest is the queer host of American Karaoke.

royalswin100games
03-24-2008, 04:33 PM
That's Jason Sehorn...Seacrest is the queer host of American Karaoke.

Sehorn's not much better... although his wife is quite attractive.

:bananen_smilies046:

Chiefster
03-24-2008, 04:39 PM
That's Jason Sehorn...Seacrest is the queer host of American Karaoke.

Simon is hilarious! I like watching just to who he's going to offend and how often Paula gets disgusted with him.:D

hermhater
03-24-2008, 05:04 PM
That's Jason Sehorn...Seacrest is the queer host of American Karaoke.

And Canada thinks he's cute!

:bananen_smilies046:



Sehorn's not much better... although his wife is quite attractive.

:bananen_smilies046:

Yes she is!


:bananen_smilies046:


Simon is hilarious! I like watching just to who he's going to offend and how often Paula gets disgusted with him.:D

You watch it because your wife makes you!

:11:

Chiefster
03-27-2008, 01:43 AM
And Canada thinks he's cute!

:bananen_smilies046:




Yes she is!


:bananen_smilies046:



You watch it because your wife makes you!

:11:

I like watching the first episodes were the judges decide who goes and who stays, and seeing Simon rudely crush the hopes and dreams of those who come on with absolutely no musical talent at all whatsoever.

hermhater
03-27-2008, 02:54 PM
I like watching the first episodes were the judges decide who goes and who stays, and seeing Simon rudely crush the hopes and dreams of those who come on with absolutely no musical talent at all whatsoever.


Me too!

I quit watching it as soon as they get to Hollywood. Then it's so boring I want to tear my eyeballs out!

:mob:

Chiefster
03-28-2008, 10:01 PM
Me too!

I quit watching it as soon as they get to Hollywood. Then it's so boring I want to tear my eyeballs out!

:mob:

Ditto that; I seriously have no interest in it at this point.

Canada
03-29-2008, 12:06 AM
I like watching the first episodes were the judges decide who goes and who stays, and seeing Simon rudely crush the hopes and dreams of those who come on with absolutely no musical talent at all whatsoever.

I want to go on and attack Simon when he says bad stuff about me!!

hermhater
03-29-2008, 12:42 AM
I want to go on and attack Simon when he says bad stuff about me!!

Do it!

:bananen_smilies046:

Canada
03-29-2008, 03:24 AM
Do it!

:bananen_smilies046:

I would but I am a really good singer so he would want me to stay!!

hermhater
03-29-2008, 03:27 AM
I would but I am a really good singer so he would want me to stay!!

I'm not sure if you're sticking up for Simon or not.

Let's just leave this situation right here alone.

Canada
03-29-2008, 03:30 AM
I'm not sure if you're sticking up for Simon or not.

Let's just leave this situation right here alone.

just sayin i am a really good singer.

hermhater
03-29-2008, 04:00 AM
I would but I am a really good singer so he would want me to stay!!


I'm not sure if you're sticking up for Simon or not.

Let's just leave this situation right here alone.


just sayin i am a really good singer.

Well then how the hell are gonna be able to beat him upif you're so good?

Are you just gonna do whatever everyone else wants to do and punch him anyway?

Do it!


:bananen_smilies046:

Canada
03-29-2008, 04:01 AM
I am sad and I don't want to talk anymore.....timsatt gave me negative rep. i dont think he likes me :(

hermhater
03-29-2008, 04:14 AM
I am sad and I don't want to talk anymore.....timsatt gave me negative rep. i dont think he likes me :(

Again?

You will probably be the first one to get the elusive "red" 58...


Don't worry about it guy.

It will be alright.