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BarryinStlouis
07-15-2008, 02:36 PM
(BarryinStlouis)
For those of you who have not read my posts, Im sure you will be able to tell, I like Bob Gretz and the way he is writing this year about this team.I went to the Arby's Minicamp at Arrowhead, and made the evening news for my time on Fox4 that night, so alot of What Mr. Gretz talks about here, I seen first hand.

Mini-Camp Surprises
Jun 08, 2008, 2:45:16 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ

For those fans that used part of their Saturday and attended the Chiefs mini-camp practice session at Arrowhead Stadium there had to be shock and great surprise.

We arenít talking about all the big holes dug into the ground outside the stadium that are part of the stadium renovation. We also are not talking about all the new names on the roster. Fans have been hearing about the new young faces for months now and knew walking into the building that of the 92 players that were on the field, only 35 had been there the last time the Chiefs took to the playing surface.

What had to be surprising is some of what the Chiefs showed their fans during the 90-minute practice. There were three very noticeable items:

* Bootlegs by the Chiefs quarterbacks.
* Audibles by the Chiefs quarterbacks.
* Man-to-man pass defense by the Chiefs defense.

Letís start with the bootlegs. The Chiefs defense has had the quarterback (http://www.chiefshuddle.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87645#) boot thrown in their face, especially by the Denver Broncos, for the better part of the last two decades. It started with John Elway and has rolled through to Jay Cutler, and it was especially popular in those seasons with Jake Plummer at quarterback.

One reason the Chiefs struggled with the bootleg is because they never saw it during practice. Under Marty Schottenheimer, Gunther Cunningham and Dick Vermeil, plays were not often designed for quarterback movement. Oh, the scout team would run bootlegs in the week of the Denver game (http://www.chiefshuddle.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87645#) especially, but seldom was it shown in practice.

Thereís one thing about defensive players that never changes: the more they see a particular play, the more they understand how to stop the same play. Based on that, the Chiefs defense should be the best in the league playing against the boot in 2008. Since the first OTA practice session, new offensive coordinator Chan Gailey has had his quarterbacks (http://www.chiefshuddle.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=87645#) on the move. Itís something both Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen seem comfortable doing. Same for the left-handed David Greene. Given the Chiefs rebuilding on the offensive line, it only makes sense to give the scheme some options that would help the blockers.

Fans may have noticed something else about the offense during the practice: the quarterbacks were actually calling audibles. They would come to the line of scrimmage, start the snap count and then pull back and either verbally or visually announce a change in the play.

This is not a new concept in offensive football, but itís not something the Chiefs quarterback has been able to do over the previous seven seasons. Under the old Vermeil-Saunders-Solari offense, there was no established audible system. There were times when the offense might go to the line with two plays and the quarterback would pick one, but there was no planned way for the offense to get out of a bad play.

(BarryinStlouis) Look, Im not ****y, and A Mr. "knowitall" but MAN IM TIRED OF BEING RIGHT!!

Thatís changed now. The Chiefs will have an audible system.

Defensively during the Saturday afternoon workout, fans got to see the new young defensive backs on the roster play some man-to-man pass coverage. The Chiefs have not done much man-to-man over the last two years; theyíve been predominately in zone pass coverage. Why? A lack of cornerbacks who combined the coverage skills and knowledge with the foot speed and quickness necessary to play the defense.

But youngsters Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Maurice Leggett are growing in confidence and understanding of the Chiefs defense and in the last few practices, they have played man-to-man coverage. If the young cornerbacks continue to improve, Cunningham will have many more options when it comes to calling his defenses.

On those three items alone, it has to be a surprising Saturday for Chiefs fans.

(BarryinStlouis)
Well even I was delightfully surprised by alot when I attended Minicamp,..

Ya, Man coverage is what I have been asking for with this defense for a while. I am sick of the free 8-10 yrds we have been giving as a cush. Its time to stand at the line of scrimmage, and chuck that reciever to slow him down. This will give our D-line more of a chance to bury the quarterback. These younger kids are opening up alot of options for Gunther. This has to have gunther smiling behind the scenes. He must be excited about his defense, and its potential.

Brodie looked real good on those roll outs. He did have a "swagger" to him in minicamp, like I expected. Boy his line looked GOOD in front of him. My only problem was McDonaldtosh, he is probably going to get beat out at camp if he dosent play better. I'm fine with that, bring on Barry Richardson. Throw him in there, let him learn.

Its So great to be able to see so many results in MINICAMP with our new offensive coordinator. Brodie has been spending alot of time with him, and the proof is starting to show in big ways. As far as the Bootlegs, this gets me excited too, because even if we assume the worst (like most WRITERS do), our QB will be able to get outside and make a play. He only has the best TE in NFL history to check down too, Or Larry, Or Jamaal, Or Kolby, or even Brad Cottham, who is a monster.

Another thing that stuck out was Dajuan Morgan. This Kid was all over the place, and I see him making a BIG contribution this year. He was only the 2nd best safty in the draft. Just Like FLowers was rated the 2nd best corner, and with Mayok, was his first ranked corner. Our Secondary is going to be impressive this year. Fast, Ball Hungry, and Physical. WOW, I cant Wait!

CHEERS!!!!
As Always,
HAIL TO THE CHIEFS
THE GREATEST TEAM IN ALL OF THE LAND!!

YZILLA
07-15-2008, 02:49 PM
I like the post and agree ! I was at the minicamp and it really got me excited for the new season.


positive Rep given !

Three7s
07-15-2008, 08:03 PM
Pre-season should be very interesting.

jerhart
07-15-2008, 10:04 PM
GREAT POST!:sign0098: :bananen_smilies046:

Cant wait till Aug. 7th! :yahoo: :yahoo:

Chiefster
07-15-2008, 10:11 PM
Pre-season should be very interesting.


Yup! I'm looking forward to it.

tornadospotter
07-16-2008, 01:03 PM
I am getting fired up and ready for some Chiefs Football!

milkman
07-16-2008, 01:36 PM
Pre-season should be very interesting.

I hope that preseason is a bore.

I hope we don't show too much during the preseason, so that when we come out against New England to start the season we catch 'em by surprise a couple of times, thus giving us a chance to come away from the game without being embarrased.

BarryinStlouis
07-16-2008, 01:39 PM
I would like to see them go 3-1 or 4-0. I am one that thinks this team needs to create some good habits in the preseason, especially with scoring. I think they will look good.

milkman
07-16-2008, 01:44 PM
I would like to see them go 3-1 or 4-0. I am one that thinks this team needs to create some good habits in the preseason, especially with scoring. I think they will look good.

We'll be playing guys late in preseason games as we look at putting together this roster who will end up being starters or big contributors during the season, so we'll have players making plays that will contribute to winning in the preseason without having to show too much of our new offense.

Chiefster
07-16-2008, 10:08 PM
I hope that preseason is a bore.

I hope we don't show too much during the preseason, so that when we come out against New England to start the season we catch 'em by surprise a couple of times, thus giving us a chance to come away from the game without being embarrased.

Heck, we don't show anything in the regular season. I don't think you have to worry about Herm showing anything in the preseason.

Three7s
07-17-2008, 12:59 AM
I know anything can happen in football, but there is a better chance of a pig flying by my house right now, and it asking me if it will turn into a football when it grows up, than us beating the Patriots.

After that, the schedule does soften up a little, so hopefully we can get some wins!

doomsday
07-17-2008, 10:36 AM
Gailey wont give anything away in the preseason. We will be fine playcalling all season.

BarryinStlouis
07-17-2008, 07:12 PM
We'll I hope a pig flys by your house. And First week games historically have been awesome in the NFL. Upsets happen, and we are JUST the kind of team the Patriots could overlook. I like our chances.

bigpoppachief
07-17-2008, 07:25 PM
IM going to say it F the patriots !! Randy Moss is going to get shut down by Brandon Flowers !!!!! :D Hali and dorsey are going to have a QB sandwhich !!! I BELIEVE !!!!!!!!!!!!

Canada
07-17-2008, 07:29 PM
We got nothin to lose....Pats win...everyone expected it, but when the Chiefs whoop ***, EVERY new Patriots fan is gonna have to listen to me for years!!!

milkman
07-17-2008, 10:48 PM
I know anything can happen in football, but there is a better chance of a pig flying by my house right now, and it asking me if it will turn into a football when it grows up, than us beating the Patriots.

After that, the schedule does soften up a little, so hopefully we can get some wins!

I agree,

All I want to see is the team competing, and come away with some confidence.

Chiefster
07-17-2008, 11:06 PM
I know anything can happen in football, but there is a better chance of a pig flying by my house right now, and it asking me if it will turn into a football when it grows up, than us beating the Patriots.

After that, the schedule does soften up a little, so hopefully we can get some wins!


If by some small chance we win I want to see a youtube vid of a pig flying by your house and holding a conversation with you. :D

AkChief49
07-18-2008, 05:08 AM
Pre-season should be very interesting.
Barrrry interesting...Ja! like your(Barry) post!!:bananen_smilies046: