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texaschief
09-07-2008, 10:47 PM
Per PFT:
Mike Florio
There was a quarterback injury during Sunday’s Chiefs-Pats game.

Oh, wait. You already know about that one.

But there was another one. Chiefs starter Brodie Croyle left with a shoulder injury. Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that he’ll miss two weeks.

Damon Huard replaced Croyle. It remains to be seen whether Huard or Tyler Thigpen will start the next two games.

Some teams will utilize a veteran backup as the game-day understudy, but use the younger quarterback if there’s a full week to prepare for the next game.
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What would you give up to bring back Brady Quinn?

Bike
09-07-2008, 10:57 PM
Per PFT:
Mike Florio
There was a quarterback injury during Sunday’s Chiefs-Pats game.

Oh, wait. You already know about that one.

But there was another one. Chiefs starter Brodie Croyle left with a shoulder injury. Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that he’ll miss two weeks.

Damon Huard replaced Croyle. It remains to be seen whether Huard or Tyler Thigpen will start the next two games.

Some teams will utilize a veteran backup as the game-day understudy, but use the younger quarterback if there’s a full week to prepare for the next game.
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What would you give up to bring back Brady Quinn?
I think Huard gives us best chance to win...

texaschief
09-07-2008, 11:04 PM
I think Huard gives us best chance to win...

umm, no. the bootleg is an integral part of this offense and Huard is a statue. It's either Thigpen, FA or we trade for a guy.

Bike
09-07-2008, 11:10 PM
umm, no. the bootleg is an integral part of this offense and Huard is a statue. It's either Thigpen, FA or we trade for a guy.
AHH, trade for a guy? Good call. He'll know this offense much better than Huard....

texaschief
09-07-2008, 11:23 PM
AHH, trade for a guy? Good call. He'll know this offense much better than Huard....

Apparently, it's not a tough system to learn. He may not know that system, but at least he'll be able to perform. But, if you're trading for a guy (like Quinn) you'd be making a loud statement about the future of Croyle's future.

The replacement will obviously be Thigpen. I just don't think Croyle should be the guy anymore. The O-line has improved, but its not perfect and the QB needs to be able to take a hit. Croyle would be good behind the Pats O-line. We need a guy who's built like a Mac truck... someone like Quinn.

royalswin100games
09-07-2008, 11:56 PM
Apparently, it's not a tough system to learn. He may not know that system, but at least he'll be able to perform. But, if you're trading for a guy (like Quinn) you'd be making a loud statement about the future of Croyle's future.

The replacement will obviously be Thigpen. I just don't think Croyle should be the guy anymore. The O-line has improved, but its not perfect and the QB needs to be able to take a hit. Croyle would be good behind the Pats O-line. We need a guy who's built like a Mac truck... someone like Quinn.

You can think Croyle shouldn't be the guy all you want. The fact of the matter is Huard will be starting and Herm will still start Croyle when he gets back. It won't even matter if Huard, or even your boy Thigpen plays well. Croyle is Herm's boy and he will be the starter.

Big Daddy Tek
09-08-2008, 12:01 AM
Its easily Huard fellas. Herm said it in the post game conference. Huards starting. With good blocking Damon has never been bad for us. Support him

texaschief
09-08-2008, 12:03 AM
You can think Croyle shouldn't be the guy all you want. The fact of the matter is Huard will be starting and Herm will still start Croyle when he gets back. It won't even matter if Huard, or even your boy Thigpen plays well. Croyle is Herm's boy and he will be the starter.

I think the posted article was accurate in its assessment of the situation. I think they went with Huard today because he was the vet. But if Thigpen gets an whole week to prepare, the offense is better suited for his skill set. Hell, the Chiefs didn't even announce who the backup would be going into the game because Thigpen was probably better in the offense than Huard.

royalswin100games
09-08-2008, 12:06 AM
I think the posted article was accurate in its assessment of the situation. I think they went with Huard today because he was the vet. But if Thigpen gets an whole week to prepare, the offense is better suited for his skill set. Hell, the Chiefs didn't even announce who the backup would be going into the game because Thigpen was probably better in the offense than Huard.

Could be but Big Daddy said he heard what Herm had to say in the press conference - Huard will be starting.

If Thigpen gives us a better chance to win, I would be all for him starting. I guess we will find out.

Big Daddy Tek
09-08-2008, 12:09 AM
Herm said Thigpen presses to much and turns the ball over too much for his liking. Almost exact quote. He said Huard is the starter. When a reporter asked him if this team was better with Damon, He said "I dont know"

royalswin100games
09-08-2008, 12:11 AM
Herm said Thigpen presses to much and turns the ball over too much for his liking. Almost exact quote. He said Huard is the starter. When a reporter asked him if this team was better with Damon, He said "I dont know"

Story of Herm's life.

texaschief
09-08-2008, 12:18 AM
At least Thigpen would be able to buy time to make a play. With Huard, the play has to be executed almost perfectly for it to be successful. Thigpen couldn't possibly turn the ball over as much as Huard. Huard throws picks with the best of them... but it's not always about throwing picks... getting sacked at least once per 3 downs isn't exactly productive.

I'm sick of watching him stand back there waiting to get sacked. He doesn't even throw the damn ball out of bounds. I'm pretty pissed he's even still on this team. Anyone know if Printers is still available? I'm sure he could handle this simple offense.

royalswin100games
09-08-2008, 12:23 AM
We could always enter the Chris Simms sweepstakes.

I don't think our leadership is going to make any changes.

texaschief
09-08-2008, 12:40 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to Simms... or even Culpepper at this point.

arrowheadGoon305
09-08-2008, 12:41 AM
Huard shud start...he can pass da ball more accurate and faster den thigpen..give huard a chance and letz c wut happenz

texaschief
09-08-2008, 12:47 AM
we've seen what Huard is. a statue.

royalswin100games
09-08-2008, 12:50 AM
Huard shud start...he can pass da ball more accurate and faster den thigpen..give huard a chance and letz c wut happenz

We aren't texting here. This is an internet forum.

...and I don't necessarily disagree with you.

royalswin100games
09-08-2008, 12:52 AM
Here you go...

Free-agent quarterback Chris Simms is scheduled to arrive in New England Monday morning for a workout and a physical, NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports. If all goes well, Simms could be a Patriot by the end of the day. Kansas City and Tennessee, each of whom had quarterbacks suffer significant injuries on Sunday, also have contacted Simms.

Source: NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=A55A3DA884EA8194F8AA09D65C71647E? id=09000d5d80a95089&template=with-video&confirm=true)

texaschief
09-08-2008, 01:25 AM
Here you go...

Free-agent quarterback Chris Simms is scheduled to arrive in New England Monday morning for a workout and a physical, NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports. If all goes well, Simms could be a Patriot by the end of the day. Kansas City and Tennessee, each of whom had quarterbacks suffer significant injuries on Sunday, also have contacted Simms.

Source: NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=A55A3DA884EA8194F8AA09D65C71647E? id=09000d5d80a95089&template=with-video&confirm=true)

I just heard that Trent Dilfer said the Pats committed to Cassel for the rest of the season. If Simms was to go to New England, it would be with the understanding that he would be the backup. Whereas if he came to Kansas City, he could potentially win the starting spot. He'd be a backup in Tennessee too. He's not going to beat out VY.

The Chiefs aren't sold on Croyle yet and Simms could potentially beat him out.

texaschief
09-08-2008, 02:01 AM
Well, maybe I'm wrong. Apparently, Vince Young has a partially torn MCL. That should only keep him out a couple weeks..... BUT!!!!

According to reports, Young tried to take himself out of the game before his knee was ever an issue. He tried to blame it on a sore hamstring. If y'all remember, Young thought about retiring after his rookie year. The Tennessee fans were booing Young loudly before he got hurt.

I wonder what the Titans would take in a trade for him. I think he'd be a monster in the Chiefs' system.

Three7s
09-08-2008, 03:17 AM
I've never been impressed with Vince Young. Sure, he can run, but his arm is crap. He's not the type of QB that I'd want to depend on to win a game for me.

Bike
09-08-2008, 09:01 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to Simms... or even Culpepper at this point.
Only to backup Huard...

Bike
09-08-2008, 09:41 AM
Apparently, it's not a tough system to learn. He may not know that system, but at least he'll be able to perform. But, if you're trading for a guy (like Quinn) you'd be making a loud statement about the future of Croyle's future.

The replacement will obviously be Thigpen. I just don't think Croyle should be the guy anymore. The O-line has improved, but its not perfect and the QB needs to be able to take a hit. Croyle would be good behind the Pats O-line. We need a guy who's built like a Mac truck... someone like Quinn.
He'll be able to perform? How do you know this? Is Quinn available? Who do we give up for him? Has he won an NFL game? Huard is a proven QB that got us to the playoffs in 06. I agree - not real mobile. But neither was Green. Sometimes its all about making good reads and decisions and gaining the confidence of your teammates...

McLovin
09-08-2008, 09:58 AM
At least Thigpen would be able to buy time to make a play. With Huard, the play has to be executed almost perfectly for it to be successful. Thigpen couldn't possibly turn the ball over as much as Huard. Huard throws picks with the best of them... but it's not always about throwing picks... getting sacked at least once per 3 downs isn't exactly productive.

I'm sick of watching him stand back there waiting to get sacked. He doesn't even throw the damn ball out of bounds. I'm pretty pissed he's even still on this team. Anyone know if Printers is still available? I'm sure he could handle this simple offense.

Agreed I think that Printers would be an upgrade but I also believe that Testeverde would be an upgrade if he could keep his depends on. Hmm Bedgood think we can talk Montana into coming back for just a couple more weeks. At this point I would almost rather see LJ at QB then Hutard. Maybe to honor Hutard we could have him stand outside the stadium, you would hear people talking how it is the most lifelike statue they have ever seen, well except when he is in the pocket.

Bike
09-08-2008, 10:03 AM
Agree we need a qb upgrade, but before we can do that, we will need a GM upgrade to get it done. But for next couple weeks, its gonna be Huard, Thigpen, and whoever we can p/u this week to back them up.

wolfpack
09-08-2008, 10:32 AM
as much as i hate to say it, Haurd gives us a chance to win maybe 8 games,maybe. Croyle dosen`t.
Croyle`s bootleg`s are pretty good for throwing 5 yards down field. but we didnt seem to throw down field till huard came in.
At least Huard isn`t afraid to throw down field.
This young team cannot take loss after loss with Croyle. They already have 2 strikes against them for being inexprenced and having Hermmie as a head coach.

Chief_kickingtale
09-08-2008, 11:07 AM
It doesn't matter who is throwing, when you have four recievers running 5 yard curls and 5 yard outs all day long! Oh, I forgot, we run against 10 in the box on first and second down and then we throw a 5 yard out on third and 8!!!

wolfpack
09-08-2008, 11:17 AM
did the chiefs even throw on 1st down? can`t remember,but knowning them, probably not.

jtandcrew
09-08-2008, 12:32 PM
Throwing 5 yards down field all the time isnt going to cut it! Its the same as running against a run defense! There is really no diffrence! If we are going to do this then we might as well call it a weaker version of the west coast offense. If we cant make the other teams DB's think we might go downfield from time to time, even if we dont hit the WR's then they will rush the line everytime!

Chief_kickingtale
09-08-2008, 12:40 PM
Amen! K.C. so simple to defend. All D coor. have to do is say, "Safeties move up, Line Backers on the line watch the run. Don't worry about the pass, if they do pass they only throw 5 yards and most of them are to guys running out of bounds that don't have a chance to make a play!" Stack the line of scrimmage and you beat them!

wolfpack
09-08-2008, 02:54 PM
here`s something to think about,,,,trade our 1st or 2nd for Quinn or somebody else. there is no college QB thats a stand out. This team needs a QB bad, and also a young one.

TRB05
09-08-2008, 02:56 PM
did the chiefs even throw on 1st down? can`t remember,but knowning them, probably not.


Pretty sure Huards interception was a downfield throw on first down.

Chief_kickingtale
09-08-2008, 02:57 PM
Quinn? Brady Quinn? What has he won? What has he done that would make you give up draft picks for. He isn't even a starter on his own team.

wolfpack
09-08-2008, 03:19 PM
Quinn? Brady Quinn? What has he won? What has he done that would make you give up draft picks for. He isn't even a starter on his own team.
What has Croyle done? NOTHING! he hasnt even thrown a td pass. or better yet he hasnt even won a game.
Quinn maynot do it either but it was a name and he can`t do any worse.
this team needs a QB period. without one we will be nowhere. but then again if this is what it takes to get rid of the queen and hermmie, power to it.

Chief_kickingtale
09-08-2008, 04:19 PM
I'm not saying Croyle is the answer, but everyone is a Quinn fan and the media just loved him, but I have never been impressed. If I remember his college days, he lost all the big games.

PawnshopMarimba
09-08-2008, 04:50 PM
It ain't gonna happen but I would LOVE to see Thigpen get his chance. He's not a bad decision maker PLUS he has a set of legs which is an ideal way of combatting a lack of an offensive line.

I say Huard got his shot, (five shots to get 6 yards, actually) and he couldn't get it done. It's only two weeks anyway.. let Tyler play!

nigeriannightmare
09-08-2008, 07:22 PM
It ain't gonna happen but I would LOVE to see Thigpen get his chance. He's not a bad decision maker PLUS he has a set of legs which is an ideal way of combatting a lack of an offensive line.

I say Huard got his shot, (five shots to get 6 yards, actually) and he couldn't get it done. It's only two weeks anyway.. let Tyler play!

I do believe that Dwayne Bowe's drop in the end zone has nothing to do with Huard's play, that ball went threw his hands and hit him in the face mask.

royalswin100games
09-08-2008, 07:42 PM
I do believe that Dwayne Bowe's drop in the end zone has nothing to do with Huard's play, that ball went threw his hands and hit him in the face mask.

Spot on.

PawnshopMarimba
09-08-2008, 07:43 PM
I do believe that Dwayne Bowe's drop in the end zone has nothing to do with Huard's play, that ball went threw his hands and hit him in the face mask.


Good point, I'd forgotten about that one. Keep in mind, though, he also threw one behind Bowe on 4th down, and one behind a double covered Gonzo before that.

I'm not saying I don't like Huard... but we know what he can do. We're still rebuilding anyway, and who knows? You put Thigpen in and you just might accidentally find the *good* young quarterback we've been looking for.

Dyno-Mite
09-08-2008, 08:28 PM
Huard shud start...he can pass da ball more accurate and faster den thigpen..give huard a chance and letz c wut happenz



Damon will start for the upcoming weeks because Herm mentioned that Damon is going to start.What in the hell can Thigpen do under center that Damon can't do?All Damon needs is time in the pocket.Our o-line needs to do a better job of blocking and Damons intention needs to be more focused on the right side of the o-line because B-dub and Albert have completely sealed down the other side while Niswanger is showing flashes of being a very dominate center.How are we not going to go with Damon when he almost won the game for us at the very end in a very clutch situation while facing the defending AFC Super Bowl champs.Damon lives for clutch situations.

PawnshopMarimba
09-08-2008, 08:51 PM
Damon will start for the upcoming weeks because Herm mentioned that Damon is going to start.What in the hell can Thigpen do under center that Damon can't do?All Damon needs is time in the pocket.Our o-line needs to do a better job of blocking and Damons intention needs to be more focused on the right side of the o-line because B-dub and Albert have completely sealed down the other side while Niswanger is showing flashes of being a very dominate center.How are we not going to go with Damon when he almost won the game for us at the very end in a very clutch situation while facing the defending AFC Super Bowl champs.Damon lives for clutch situations.

Thigpen can run with the ball. The offensive line still sucks. It'd be a plus to have a guy who, when under pressure, can advance the ball downfield on his feet rather than have to throw the ball away and waste a down or take the sack.

Besides, we all know this isn't a Super Bowl bound team or likely even a viable playoff contender... so how about getting a young quarterback some repetitions just in case Croyle isn't "the guy" after all? Huard's fine, but he's getting long in the tooth. He's never going to win this team a championship before he retires. Sorry.

royalswin100games
09-08-2008, 09:54 PM
Damon will start for the upcoming weeks because Herm mentioned that Damon is going to start.What in the hell can Thigpen do under center that Damon can't do?All Damon needs is time in the pocket.Our o-line needs to do a better job of blocking and Damons intention needs to be more focused on the right side of the o-line because B-dub and Albert have completely sealed down the other side while Niswanger is showing flashes of being a very dominate center.How are we not going to go with Damon when he almost won the game for us at the very end in a very clutch situation while facing the defending AFC Super Bowl champs.Damon lives for clutch situations.

I agree that Damon should start now but what clutch situations are you referring to?

McLovin
09-08-2008, 09:59 PM
I agree that Damon should start now but what clutch situations are you referring to?
Clutch situation like 1st and Goal at the 5 with less then a minute in the game. Down by a touchdown to the AFC Champs from the previous year, if Huard lives for this stuff I would rather have him live for it elsewhere.

I like Brodie but his injuries are really starting to concern me. I am for bringing in Thig and see what he can do, at this point why not. I would love to make it to the playoffs this year, but I am also not against a losing year to see where we stand. This team has a lot of questions, maybe it is time for some answers. The only thing Huard should be answering now is what time of day would you like the flight out of town. If he isnt the future he should be the past.

royalswin100games
09-08-2008, 10:04 PM
Clutch situation like 1st and Goal at the 5 with less then a minute in the game. Down by a touchdown to the AFC Champs from the previous year, if Huard lives for this stuff I would rather have him live for it elsewhere.

I like Brodie but his injuries are really starting to concern me. I am for bringing in Thig and see what he can do, at this point why not. I would love to make it to the playoffs this year, but I am also not against a losing year to see where we stand. This team has a lot of questions, maybe it is time for some answers. The only thing Huard should be answering now is what time of day would you like the flight out of town. If he isnt the future he should be the past.

I just think Damon gives us a better chance to win at this point. As far as the clutch crap goes, I'm trying to call him out because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'm definitely not opposed to seeing Thigpen. If he shows skills in practice, why not. From the stuff I've read, he's not ready. Of course, some of that stuff was quotes from our dumba$$ coach.

McLovin
09-08-2008, 10:09 PM
I just think Damon gives us a better chance to win at this point. As far as the clutch crap goes, I'm trying to call him out because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'm definitely not opposed to seeing Thigpen. If he shows skills in practice, why not. From the stuff I've read, he's not ready. Of course, some of that stuff was quotes from our dumba$$ coach.
That wasnt actually aimed at you, more aimed at Hutard. I really thought Hutard did good during Trents injury but it has been over a year since I have seen any reason for Horrid to be on this team, hence my Damon Horrid sig last year before Croyle took over as the starter. :bananen_smilies046:

chief31
09-09-2008, 03:02 AM
Wow. Huard comes in and throws for two (Bowe dropped one) TDs, and essentially tied the game against The Pats. (Again, Bowe dropped it.)

And he gets ripped to shreds?

Meanwhile, Herm starts his eighth season as a head coach, and gets his starting QB injured (as he has done every year) and Huard is the problem?

Granted, timmy (B5r..whatever) is spouting off nonsense about Damon 'Killer' Huard...But the guy played pretty well against a team that most people would agree is a favorite to go to the Super Bowl, at their stadium.

Huard will probably be the starter, simply because he can take the pounding that our QB will have to endure, and if he gets ruined... "Who cares?" (Not my opinion)

jtandcrew
09-09-2008, 12:48 PM
:lol: As ive stated in other posts....yes, Huard played decent, but he also pannicked at times. Yes, that has to do with a poor or inexperienced line. You cant blame the end of the game on Huard though. He simply threw the ball where he was supposed to. Look at the Darling catch...That was the HOT route if there was a blitz. Huard made the throw and got creamed for doing it. Although, I just simply think Huard is not our answer and nor is Croyle! I think we should be giving Thigpen a chance to start and see how he handles it!

BTW.....does anyone have a list of undrafted QB's instead of the 1's that have "experience"?

m0ef0e
09-09-2008, 01:07 PM
That wasnt actually aimed at you, more aimed at Hutard. I really thought Hutard did good during Trents injury but it has been over a year since I have seen any reason for Horrid to be on this team, hence my Damon Horrid sig last year before Croyle took over as the starter. :bananen_smilies046:

What about the fact that we were tied for the division lead going into the bye last year under Huard? The four wins we got last season were with Damon under center. They were looking for an excuse to try Brodie out last year and so when Webb barely stepped out on that long pass from Huard against the Packers, (that would have made a huge difference in that game) that was basically all she wrote for Huard's season as starter. A few inches here and a few plays there, and Huard would have been 6-4 instead of 4-6 last season. While Huard may not be a starter to many, I think he is one of the better back-ups in the league.

Dyno-Mite
09-09-2008, 08:54 PM
I agree that Damon should start now but what clutch situations are you referring to?



Clutch situations such as those when he stepped in for Trent while being ranked as having the second best quarterback rating next to Peyton Manning during the 2006 season while also leading the league in interception ratio during that season.All of our wins during last season were comeback from behind wins while having Damon under center.Check out all of our previous games during last season when Damon was under center and you will take notice that he won all of those games during clutch late situations.The first Raiders game was a perfect example.I can simply imagine seeing Damon easily get a win for us during this game while playing the Raiders instead of the game going into a clutch situation.Once again,he has so many weapons to work with.Gonzo,Bowe,Darling,Webb and Franklin.Damn,Darling looks so much better of a wide receiver than he looked with the Ravens while wearing a Chief jersey.Many people slept on Darling but if he can stay true to his aggressive on field winning attitude as he showed during the Patriots game then damn.L.J.=Damon.Both are veteran threats that know how to win games and won't simply give up on you as that as in which Brodie does while continuosly leaving games due to injury.

anaeelbackwards
09-09-2008, 09:08 PM
Damn,Darling looks so much better of a wide receiver than he looked with the Ravens while wearing a Chief jersey.Many people slept on Darling but if he can stay true to his aggressive on field winning attitude as he showed during the Patriots game then damn..

darling looked real impressive versus the pats. as much as i want sippio to be the #2 WR, im really hoping darling can get the job done.

Three7s
09-09-2008, 09:11 PM
Only mistake Darling made was not making a cut back to try and get the defenders to overrun, but that's just nitpicking. If he can reliably get open and make all the catches that should be made, then he's welcome in my book!

TRB05
09-09-2008, 11:02 PM
The ultimate goal of the Chiefs is to win the Super Bowl. It aint happening this year, deal with it. Huard will not be here, at least as a starter, when this goal is realized. So what would be the purpose of playing Huard over Croyle, or Thigpen for that matter?

I think alot of fans are missing the point on the QB situation, and frankly I think the Chiefs are making a mistake as well going with Huard, but they have to consider attendence as well, I don't.

It's NOT about THIS year, its about next year and the years after. They have got to find out about Croyle, he is about down to his last chance I think. If he comes back and sucks, or gets hurt again, I think that is all she wrote for his career here, and the Chiefs must find a solution elsewhere.
/rant

greg3564
09-09-2008, 11:43 PM
The ultimate goal of the Chiefs is to win the Super Bowl. It aint happening this year, deal with it. Huard will not be here, at least as a starter, when this goal is realized. So what would be the purpose of playing Huard over Croyle, or Thigpen for that matter?

I think alot of fans are missing the point on the QB situation, and frankly I think the Chiefs are making a mistake as well going with Huard, but they have to consider attendence as well, I don't.

It's NOT about THIS year, its about next year and the years after. They have got to find out about Croyle, he is about down to his last chance I think. If he comes back and sucks, or gets hurt again, I think that is all she wrote for his career here, and the Chiefs must find a solution elsewhere.
/rant

Good post! Listen I think we're not being told the true extent of Croyle's injury. My gut tells me he's through for the season and the team will announce his placement on IR. Why else would the team sign a 5th round, 3rd string QB from a no name college? That would put 4 QB's on the team. That makes no sense. I think if Croyle is done, Thigpen gets the nod and Huard is back to the bench. I could be wrong, but something just isn't right here.

texaschief
09-10-2008, 02:26 AM
Good post! Listen I think we're not being told the true extent of Croyle's injury. My gut tells me he's through for the season and the team will announce his placement on IR. Why else would the team sign a 5th round, 3rd string QB from a no name college? That would put 4 QB's on the team. That makes no sense. I think if Croyle is done, Thigpen gets the nod and Huard is back to the bench. I could be wrong, but something just isn't right here.

You can't just play the next 2-4 weeks with only two QBs. The Chiefs decided to go with a 3rd string guy who could be the emergency 3rd stringer. You're going to see Huard play against Oakland, then Thigpen start until Croyle comes back. I'd be more concerned about Croyle's long term health if we had gone out and signed Simms or any other big name on the FA market.

Signing a 3rd rounder is more good news than bad as far as Croyle is concerned.

greg3564
09-10-2008, 02:56 AM
You can't just play the next 2-4 weeks with only two QBs. The Chiefs decided to go with a 3rd string guy who could be the emergency 3rd stringer. You're going to see Huard play against Oakland, then Thigpen start until Croyle comes back. I'd be more concerned about Croyle's long term health if we had gone out and signed Simms or any other big name on the FA market.

Signing a 3rd rounder is more good news than bad as far as Croyle is concerned.

I've never heard of a team doing this before. Bringing in a 4th string QB just have there "in case." If what has being told about Croyles injuries is true, and he's out 2 weeks, they are not going to bring in a 4th backup when there is already two behind Croyle. In the next day or so, we'll get the bad news Croyle's out for the season on IR. That will free up a roster spot for our new no name QB bench warmer.

Bike
09-10-2008, 03:02 AM
IMO, Croyle IS a backup. We need a starter. We needed Chris Simms.

texaschief
09-10-2008, 03:12 AM
I've never heard of a team doing this before. Bringing in a 4th string QB just have there "in case." If what has being told about Croyles injuries is true, and he's out 2 weeks, they are not going to bring in a 4th backup when there is already two behind Croyle. In the next day or so, we'll get the bad news Croyle's out for the season on IR. That will free up a roster spot for our new no name QB bench warmer.

But that doesn't make sense. They've said since day one that this could be somewhere in the 2-4 week range. He wouldn't be the "4th backup to Croyle." Every team usually goes into a game with 3 QBs. I don't understand what is so unbelievable about this. The Pats lost a QB and everyone is expecting them to sign someone to come in and be the third guy. Same thing with the Titans.

You act like it's out of the question for two QBs to go down in one game... especially with Huard standing there just waiting to get hit. Why wouldn't you want a third guy? When Croyle comes back, Martin just goes to the practice squad or waiver wire.

I just don't see why this signing SCREAMS season over for Croyle.

YZILLA
09-10-2008, 03:25 AM
I like Huards vision regardless of his Athletic ability. Hes sees open men when they are open , he grips it and rips it. Croyle was spending so much time trying not to make any mistakes like he did last season when instead of throwing the ball away he threw interceptions. noww hes holding it and looking for an open check down guys. We need a guy with the balls to take a chance and Huard fits that bill with his experience. I am not saying he should be our starter , but we are lucky to have him right now ! Quinn Gray maybe would have been better than the no-name guy we picked up. He is a beast in size, very very fast and has a great arm. and HE WOULD HAVE GONE CHEAP which seems to be what we are looking for.I really wish we could lure Brady Quinn away from clevland with a promise of a starting position . If not this year , next year. We have extra money right?

Bike
09-10-2008, 03:34 AM
I have no problem sticking with Huard. He's just not very mobile. Until our OL improves, not the ideal situation. I just want to see Thig get in a game and see what he can do.

texaschief
09-10-2008, 03:38 AM
I like Huards vision regardless of his Athletic ability. Hes sees open men when they are open , he grips it and rips it. Croyle was spending so much time trying not to make any mistakes like he did last season when instead of throwing the ball away he threw interceptions. noww hes holding it and looking for an open check down guys. We need a guy with the balls to take a chance and Huard fits that bill with his experience. I am not saying he should be our starter , but we are lucky to have him right now ! Quinn Gray maybe would have been better than the no-name guy we picked up. He is a beast in size, very very fast and has a great arm. and HE WOULD HAVE GONE CHEAP which seems to be what we are looking for.I really wish we could lure Brady Quinn away from clevland with a promise of a starting position . If not this year , next year. We have extra money right?


Lure? Quinn has no say in the matter. The question is, do we have the pieces to move in order to get him from Cleveland? It's gonna take some draft picks and/or young players to bring in a potential franchise QB to another franchise. Although, i think the Browns would be more apt to trade Anderson than Quinn.

tornadospotter
09-10-2008, 03:55 AM
I like Huards vision regardless of his Athletic ability. Hes sees open men when they are open , he grips it and rips it. Croyle was spending so much time trying not to make any mistakes like he did last season when instead of throwing the ball away he threw interceptions. noww hes holding it and looking for an open check down guys. We need a guy with the balls to take a chance and Huard fits that bill with his experience. I am not saying he should be our starter , but we are lucky to have him right now ! Quinn Gray maybe would have been better than the no-name guy we picked up. He is a beast in size, very very fast and has a great arm. and HE WOULD HAVE GONE CHEAP which seems to be what we are looking for.I really wish we could lure Brady Quinn away from clevland with a promise of a starting position . If not this year , next year. We have extra money right?

I hear you, and all of you Chief Crowd Members, about Damion, butt damm, we need a QB that can move!!!! Not a drop back passer, we have not yet proved that we can protect a drop back passer, so, to win!!!!, which is very much I want, we need to change it up, we need QB that can run, and make something out of a blown play, or scramble out of a pass rush! If we are rebuilding anyway, start Thig, lets see what he can do, we know what Damion can do, but I just do not see how he could last for long. Look at last year, before Croyle took over, Damion was beaten down, you could see it everytime he got up after being sacked! He can not escape the rush.
jmo

texaschief
09-10-2008, 04:03 AM
I hear you, and all of you Chief Crowd Members, about Damion, butt damm, we need a QB that can move!!!! Not a drop back passer, we have not yet proved that we can protect a drop back passer, so, to win!!!!, which is very much I want, we need to change it up, we need QB that can run, and make something out of a blown play, or scramble out of a pass rush! If we are rebuilding anyway, start Thig, lets see what he can do, we know what Damion can do, but I just do not see how he could last for long. Look at last year, before Croyle took over, Damion was beaten down, you could see it everytime he got up after being sacked! He can not escape the rush.
jmo

It's not just your opinion. Its a fact. Huard isn't the answer.

Guru
09-10-2008, 04:21 AM
I like Huards vision regardless of his Athletic ability. Hes sees open men when they are open , he grips it and rips it. Croyle was spending so much time trying not to make any mistakes like he did last season when instead of throwing the ball away he threw interceptions. noww hes holding it and looking for an open check down guys. We need a guy with the balls to take a chance and Huard fits that bill with his experience. I am not saying he should be our starter , but we are lucky to have him right now ! Quinn Gray maybe would have been better than the no-name guy we picked up. He is a beast in size, very very fast and has a great arm. and HE WOULD HAVE GONE CHEAP which seems to be what we are looking for.I really wish we could lure Brady Quinn away from clevland with a promise of a starting position . If not this year , next year. We have extra money right?

Well, Quinn went at 22 right? So would you trade a potential top 5 pick for him (hope I am dead wrong on this)? I know I wouldn't.

chief31
09-10-2008, 04:43 AM
Well, Quinn went at 22 right? So would you trade a potential top 5 pick for him (hope I am dead wrong on this)? I know I wouldn't.

No chance.

I wouldn't trade a potential top-five second round pick for him.

I would give no more than a second in '10 and maybe a third.

And I wouldn't like giving that much up.:D

tornadospotter
09-10-2008, 10:56 AM
Kansas City -- Coach Herm Edwards is hinting that the Kansas City Chiefs may go with some sort of two-quarterback system while Brodie Croyle is sidelined with a separated shoulder


Backup Damon Huard will start this week against the Raiders, relieving an injured Kansas City quarterback for the third time in three years. But Edwards made clear that third-teamer Tyler Thigpen, who was waived by Minnesota last September and has attempted only six passes in the NFL, will also get on the field in the next few weeks.
Might he start the following week at Atlanta?
"He'll get to play. Whether he starts, we'll determine that," Edwards said. "But he is going to play. You don't have to worry about that."
Asked directly if he was talking about a two-quarterback system, Edwards replied, "I'm just saying he's going to play."
Croyle, the oft-injured third-year pro, was hurt in Sunday's 17-10 loss at New England and will be out two to four weeks.
Rather than go with two quarterbacks while Croyle is injured, the Chiefs have looked at several available backups and are expected to sign Ingle Martin off the practice squad of the Tennessee Titans if he passes his physical.


Huard, a 12-year veteran, came in for Croyle in the first quarter and nearly pulled out a huge upset against the heavily favored Patriots. He is a proven performer. But he's not as young, quick or mobile as Croyle and Thigpen and the Chiefs revamped their offense this year to make use of things like rollouts and bootlegs. With Huard, the offense will have to be reined in.
Thigpen, 24, is a much better fit for the Chiefs' new system. Plus, he's a second-year player, and the Chiefs are committed to rebuilding through youth.

tornadospotter
09-10-2008, 11:01 AM
Kansas City -- Coach Herm Edwards is hinting that the Kansas City Chiefs may go with some sort of two-quarterback system while Brodie Croyle is sidelined with a separated shoulder


Backup Damon Huard will start this week against the Raiders, relieving an injured Kansas City quarterback for the third time in three years. But Edwards made clear that third-teamer Tyler Thigpen, who was waived by Minnesota last September and has attempted only six passes in the NFL, will also get on the field in the next few weeks.
Might he start the following week at Atlanta?
"He'll get to play. Whether he starts, we'll determine that," Edwards said. "But he is going to play. You don't have to worry about that."
Asked directly if he was talking about a two-quarterback system, Edwards replied, "I'm just saying he's going to play."
Croyle, the oft-injured third-year pro, was hurt in Sunday's 17-10 loss at New England and will be out two to four weeks.
Rather than go with two quarterbacks while Croyle is injured, the Chiefs have looked at several available backups and are expected to sign Ingle Martin off the practice squad of the Tennessee Titans if he passes his physical.


Huard, a 12-year veteran, came in for Croyle in the first quarter and nearly pulled out a huge upset against the heavily favored Patriots. He is a proven performer. But he's not as young, quick or mobile as Croyle and Thigpen and the Chiefs revamped their offense this year to make use of things like rollouts and bootlegs. With Huard, the offense will have to be reined in.
Thigpen, 24, is a much better fit for the Chiefs' new system. Plus, he's a second-year player, and the Chiefs are committed to rebuilding through youth.
So why is he going to be the starter!!!!:mob: How much more can the offense be reined in? We have yet to see the offense let out!!!:sign0153:

jtandcrew
09-10-2008, 11:55 PM
Kansas City -- Coach Herm Edwards is hinting that the Kansas City Chiefs may go with some sort of two-quarterback system while Brodie Croyle is sidelined with a separated shoulder


Backup Damon Huard will start this week against the Raiders, relieving an injured Kansas City quarterback for the third time in three years. But Edwards made clear that third-teamer Tyler Thigpen, who was waived by Minnesota last September and has attempted only six passes in the NFL, will also get on the field in the next few weeks.
Might he start the following week at Atlanta?
"He'll get to play. Whether he starts, we'll determine that," Edwards said. "But he is going to play. You don't have to worry about that."
Asked directly if he was talking about a two-quarterback system, Edwards replied, "I'm just saying he's going to play."
Croyle, the oft-injured third-year pro, was hurt in Sunday's 17-10 loss at New England and will be out two to four weeks.
Rather than go with two quarterbacks while Croyle is injured, the Chiefs have looked at several available backups and are expected to sign Ingle Martin off the practice squad of the Tennessee Titans if he passes his physical.


Huard, a 12-year veteran, came in for Croyle in the first quarter and nearly pulled out a huge upset against the heavily favored Patriots. He is a proven performer. But he's not as young, quick or mobile as Croyle and Thigpen and the Chiefs revamped their offense this year to make use of things like rollouts and bootlegs. With Huard, the offense will have to be reined in.
Thigpen, 24, is a much better fit for the Chiefs' new system. Plus, he's a second-year player, and the Chiefs are committed to rebuilding through youth.



Has anyone heard of Pennington? (oft injured qb that Herm loves?)