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Nel Toille
12-10-2008, 08:00 PM
Our Linebackers are ALWAYS out of position. This has been true for so long. Sure, we don't have a pass rush. Yes, I know we can't stop the run. I think a lot of our problems could be solved, however, if our LBs were properly coached. I'm really affraid that we're going to draft high profile Linebackers like Laurenitis and Malagulalala (whatever his name is) but they're still going to suck because they'll never be in the right spot to make a play.
Here's a picture I drew to explain what I'm talking about. The blue X's are where our linebackers are before the play and is where they should generally be (depending on the defense) when the play is over. It's called STAYING HOME. The red X's represent where our linebackers run to once the ball is snapped, leaving the entire middle of the field open.
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2008/12/12.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lbsru3.jpg)
C'mon Gun, Pee Wee Defenses can figure this sh*t out. Why can't YOU?!?!

Big Daddy Tek
12-10-2008, 11:00 PM
I dont agree with the coaching opinion. Gunther Cunningham is one of the best, if not the best Linebackers coach in all of football. Ask Kieth Bullock who credits Gun with his entire success. Or Jeff Fisher who was willing to match the chiefs coordinator money for him to stay as a linebackers coach. Some of the defenses that we remember so proudly as Chiefs fans were coached by the Gun. This is the worst defense he's had in his career, but its also the worst defensive group of players that he has had in his career. The gun is here to stay and Im glad.

Three7s
12-10-2008, 11:04 PM
I dont agree with the coaching opinion. Gunther Cunningham is one of the best, if not the best Linebackers coach in all of football. Ask Kieth Bullock who credits Gun with his entire success. Or Jeff Fisher who was willing to match the chiefs coordinator money for him to stay as a linebackers coach. Some of the defenses that we remember so proudly as Chiefs fans were coached by the Gun. This is the worst defense he's had in his career, but its also the worst defensive group of players that he has had in his career. The gun is here to stay and Im glad.
I disagree greatly, he may have been great once, but he's lost it. He got here in 05, and our defense has stunk it up every season with the exception of 07 thanks to Jared Allen. Not to mention, I don't think Gunther can handle coaching LBs and the duties of the defensive coordinator at the same time.

Nel Toille
12-10-2008, 11:11 PM
I'm basing my conclusion on what I've seen in recent years, not by what Keith Bullock has to say. You can say it's the Cover 2 we run, but we always leave the middle of the field wide open every single down. Blame Gun, Herm the players, I don't care... it just needs to be corrected.

Chiefster
12-10-2008, 11:16 PM
I dont agree with the coaching opinion. Gunther Cunningham is one of the best, if not the best Linebackers coach in all of football. Ask Kieth Bullock who credits Gun with his entire success. Or Jeff Fisher who was willing to match the chiefs coordinator money for him to stay as a linebackers coach. Some of the defenses that we remember so proudly as Chiefs fans were coached by the Gun. This is the worst defense he's had in his career, but its also the worst defensive group of players that he has had in his career. The gun is here to stay and Im glad.

Like any coach, Gun looks good when he has good athletes to coach.


I'm basing my conclusion on what I've seen in recent years, not by what Keith Bullock has to say. You can say it's the Cover 2 we run, but we always leave the middle of the field wide open every single down. Blame Gun, Herm the players, I don't care... it just needs to be corrected.

Absolutely agreed! Rep!

Coach
12-11-2008, 11:07 PM
We've been blaming the players for a long time in KC. I'm beginning to second guess Gunther.

Chiefster
12-12-2008, 12:08 AM
We've been blaming the players for a long time in KC. I'm beginning to second guess Gunther.

I too wonder about him. I have for quite some time felt that Herm needed to go, and I know Carl does.

Three7s
12-12-2008, 02:06 AM
Get rid of the whole coaching staff, besides Gailey. I think the players would respond much better to a change in system. Just look at the Dolphins.

spiman
12-12-2008, 10:34 PM
To bad we cannot trade a high draft pick for an entire coaching staff...

Chiefster
12-13-2008, 02:47 AM
To bad we cannot trade a high draft pick for an entire coaching staff...

I can just hear the conversation the Jets GM had with the owner.

GM: "They actually want Herm in exchange for a fourth round draft pick!

Owner: Quick take 'em up on it before Clark and Carl sober up and come to their senses!!

theaxeeffect4311
12-14-2008, 03:12 AM
Get rid of the whole coaching staff, besides Gailey. I think the players would respond much better to a change in system. Just look at the Dolphins.

I would like that so much. But who is going to make those changes? Carl? However, you want to look at it, the defense is consistantly bad, which means it is coaching not players. Gunther has to go. He is not the guru everyone thought he was.