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Nel Toille
01-28-2009, 03:15 AM
Maybe the Chiefs are looking at a canidate that will be coaching in the big dance this Sunday and there's a chance it's not Todd Haley. I've read some things here and there on other forums about Russ Grimm, the assistant head coach/offensive line coach for the Cards, being a possibility. Arrowhead pride just posted an article about him (unrelated to his coaching future) and I think they are also starting to see this as a good possibility. Grimm makes a little more sense than Haley. He's young but has a lot of experience and is more primmed to be a head coach. He's been up for a couple of head coaching positions in the past but ultimately lost out to Lovie Smith and Mike Tomlin. Success seems to follow him wherever he goes and he has a reputation for building good offensive lines and productive running games. Just a little more speculation while we patiently wait...

Here's his coaching history (according to Wikipedia):
After hanging up his player's cleats, Grimm returned to the Redskins as a tight end (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tight_end) coach (from 1992 through 1996, and offensive line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offensive_line) coach from 1997 through 2000, during which he was instrumental in the development of tackles Chris Samuels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Samuels) and Jon Jansen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jansen). After his coaching stint with the Redskins, Grimm joined the Pittsburgh Steelers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Steelers) as offensive line coach in September 2000. In 2004 he was promoted to Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line.
In 2004, after the Chicago Bears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bears) fired Dick Jauron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Jauron), Bears management considered Grimm as a top candidate for the job. The job eventually went to then St. Louis Rams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Rams) defensive coordinator Lovie Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovie_Smith).
In 2005, Grimm added another Super Bowl ring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_ring) (totalling 4) to his résumé as part of the Pittsburgh Steelers' coaching staff (Offensive Line Coach).Under Grimm guidance in 2005, the Super Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl) champion Steelers averaged nearly 140 yards rushing per game during the regular season to rank fifth in the NFL while also grinding out 181 rushing yards in their Super Bowl XL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XL) victory over the Seattle Seahawks. In 2006 Steelers offensive line helped pave the way for running back Willie Parker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Parker) to gain 1,494 yards and 13 touchdowns on 337 carries with 4.4 yard avg. and earn his first Pro Bowl selection. Pittsburgh offense finished the 2006 season with the 10th best rushing attack in the NFL, helping to give the Steelers the 7th ranked total offense in the league. Parker finished the season with the second and third top rushing performances of the year in the NFL with 223 rushing yards 32 att., TD against Cleveland Browns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns) and 213 yards with 22 att, 2 TD vs. New Orleans Saints (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Saints).
On January 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_5) , 2007, Bill Cowher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher) resigned as head coach of the Steelers. In the press conference that followed, Steeler's President Art Rooney II announced Russ Grimm as one of the candidates for the job. On January 15th, 2007, he was named as a finalist for the job along with Ken Whisenhunt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Whisenhunt) and Mike Tomlin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tomlin). The Steelers would end up hiring Tomlin as their head coach. Shortly thereafter, Grimm was hired by the Arizona Cardinals to serve as their assistant head coach/offensive line coach. In Arizona, he serves under head coach Ken Whisenhunt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Whisenhunt) who Grimm worked with under Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh. In his first season in Arizona, his offensive line allowed only 24 sacks, 6th best in the NFL and the fewest given up by the Cardinals since 1978 with 22. Grimm’s offensive line also paved the way for running back Edgerrin James (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgerrin_James) to rush for 1,222 yards, the fifth best total in team history. The Cardinals offense finished with the 5th best passing attack in the NFL and threw for a team record 32 touchdowns.

theaxeeffect4311
01-28-2009, 03:33 AM
That is a guy I could probably support. Not only is he an assistant head coach, but he's a O-line coach. Make him the head coach, and you know he'll bring the right people in on the O-line to make us have a good one again. I want a defensive minded head coach, but if we have to go offensive, this guy doesn't sound that bad.

texaschief
01-28-2009, 03:39 AM
O-line asst. coaches don't have great track records as HCs. But it's all a crap shoot anyway.

Nel Toille
01-28-2009, 03:56 AM
That is a guy I could probably support. Not only is he an assistant head coach, but he's a O-line coach. Make him the head coach, and you know he'll bring the right people in on the O-line to make us have a good one again. I want a defensive minded head coach, but if we have to go offensive, this guy doesn't sound that bad.
If you really think about it, this guy is really the best fit for us right now. I would have to say our number one concern should be our running game. It's just in shambles. Many of our losses last year can easily be blamed on our lack of a running game more than our defense. If we could have just kept the offense on the field and ran out the clock, we would have won the majority of those close ones. I know our defense is bad but you can't expect ANY defense to play an entire half of football at full speed with a few three-and-out breaks in between and still be effective. Pioli knows this and I expect that he'll make it his first priority.

theaxeeffect4311
01-28-2009, 04:09 AM
O-line asst. coaches don't have great track records as HCs. But it's all a crap shoot anyway.


Andy Reid and Tony Sparano both look like good head coaches. They both were O-line coaches.

The only trend I know of for coaching is that Vikings' defensive coordinators become good head coaches. Mike Tomlin and Tony Dungy are such names. I am not endorsing Leslie Frazier, just stating the one trend I see.

Canada
01-28-2009, 09:07 AM
O-line asst. coaches don't have great track records as HCs. But it's all a crap shoot anyway.

Seriously? After all the stuff you post about guys you are gonna say its a crap shoot? I expected better from you. :beer:

m0ef0e
01-28-2009, 01:31 PM
Plus, he's got a cool name.

texaschief
01-28-2009, 11:15 PM
Seriously? After all the stuff you post about guys you are gonna say its a crap shoot? I expected better from you. :beer:

Finding new head coaches without a track record who are going to be successful without a track record.... is kind of a crap shoot. Even GM's (Phil Savage in particular) agree.
There was even an article written about it.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1000018.html

jtandcrew
01-31-2009, 07:58 AM
Its always a crap shoot when you make changes. I just hope that we find the next Cowher, Shottenhiemer, Shannahan, Parcells etc in the next head coach! I know some will not agree with my choices but they are just some that i knew on the flip that has had good history in the NFL.

balto
01-31-2009, 11:17 AM
Russ Grimm > Haley

Thanks for posting this

okikcfan
01-31-2009, 02:10 PM
The superbowl is sunday and we have heard nothing about HC interviews or anything for that matter from arrowhead/Hunt and or Pioli which leads me to believe the chances are high for Haley to be offered HC spot on Monday or Tuesday win or lose. And I for one think he will take it.Also I have always picked the afc team as my choice but this year I'm going for the Cards!!! It's there turn......:yahoo: :bananen_smilies046:

theaxeeffect4311
01-31-2009, 02:39 PM
The superbowl is sunday and we have heard nothing about HC interviews or anything for that matter from arrowhead/Hunt and or Pioli which leads me to believe the chances are high for Haley to be offered HC spot on Monday or Tuesday win or lose. And I for one think he will take it.Also I have always picked the afc team as my choice but this year I'm going for the Cards!!! It's there turn......:yahoo: :bananen_smilies046:

Their turn? They have to earn that Super Bowl if they are going to get past the Steelers.

:fatlock:Steelers = Giant Curtain Blocking the Cardinals

okikcfan
01-31-2009, 04:31 PM
Let's not forget last year.......

balto
01-31-2009, 04:48 PM
I just don't see Pioli hiring Haley a day or two after the Super Bowl. It doesn't sound like the Chiefs have even interviewed the guy

prough91
01-31-2009, 05:07 PM
I think they ought to make Canada hc. We might not win much but it be entertaining as hell.

greg3564
02-01-2009, 06:23 PM
I just don't see Pioli hiring Haley a day or two after the Super Bowl. It doesn't sound like the Chiefs have even interviewed the guy

Haley is under contract and the Chiefs are most likely waiting to request an interview until after the game so as not to distract the team and players. They have to have permission from the Cards to talk to him and they would have said no for sure before the Superbowl.

okikcfan
02-01-2009, 06:35 PM
:fatlock:Steelers = Giant Curtain Blocking the Cardinals


It's the Steel Curtain....

theaxeeffect4311
02-02-2009, 03:49 AM
It's the Steel Curtain....

I know, that was the joke. The Cardinals are not like the Giants from last season's Super Bowl.