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wubfree
02-20-2009, 11:09 AM
a stud offensive line is what made us unstoppable on O with Priest et al....

honda522
02-20-2009, 11:34 AM
Two words.


PASS RUSHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!1

OPLookn
02-20-2009, 01:56 PM
a stud offensive line is what made us unstoppable on O with Priest et al....

I would agree and say take the best LT left in the draft. To me the best defense is a great offense. If you score 35+ points a game your defense only has to hold once or twice. However, since we're probably switching from a 4-3 D to a 3-4 D we're going to need to use this draft to take care of what we can't fill in FA and then patch the O til next year.

Coach
02-24-2009, 12:16 AM
I think the stunt that Andre Smith pulled at the combine will cost us getting Eugene Monroe. I would imagine that he will now be the #1 ranked LT in this year's draft. I would love to have Monroe at #3.

But I really think the Chiefs need to take an impact defensive player with the 1st rd pick. I think we can get a solid Center(Mack, Unger) in the 2nd rd or a solid RT(Loadholt) in the 3nd rd.

I will change my mind in 20 minutes though.

hermhater
02-24-2009, 12:18 AM
I think the stunt that Andre Smith pulled at the combine will cost us getting Eugene Monroe. I would imagine that he will now be the #1 ranked LT in this year's draft. I would love to have Monroe at #3.

But I really think the Chiefs need to take an impact defensive player with the 1st rd pick. I think we can get a solid Center(Mack, Unger) in the 2nd rd or a solid RT(Loadholt) in the 3nd rd.

I will change my mind in 20 minutes though.

Haven't been able to catch any combine coverage this year Coach.

What stunt?

Coach
02-24-2009, 12:22 AM
Haven't been able to catch any combine coverage this year Coach.

What stunt?

He showed up overweight and out of shape and chose not to participate in the drills. Then he just bailed.

CNBC estimate: Andre Smith could lose $24M in draft freefall - The Huddle - USATODAY.com (http://blogs.usatoday.com/thehuddle/2009/02/cnbc-estimate-a.html)

tornadospotter
02-24-2009, 12:24 AM
I think the stunt that Andre Smith pulled at the combine will cost us getting Eugene Monroe. I would imagine that he will now be the #1 ranked LT in this year's draft. I would love to have Monroe at #3.

But I really think the Chiefs need to take an impact defensive player with the 1st rd pick. I think we can get a solid Center(Mack, Unger) in the 2nd rd or a solid RT(Loadholt) in the 3nd rd.

I will change my mind in 20 minutes though.
I agree, you and me will probably changes our mind's, several times! I want Curry for now.

AkChief49
02-24-2009, 12:27 AM
I agree, you and me will probably changes our mind's, several times! I want Curry for now.
He would be my first choice!:D guy is an animal

Coach
02-24-2009, 12:30 AM
I agree, you and me will probably changes our mind's, several times! I want Curry for now.

I'm hearing a lot of good things about Curry as well. I just think we can get a good LB in free agency. Once the free agency picture plays out, the draft becomes much more predictable.

The combine is also providing some unique twists. Crabtree and Andre Smith could possibly fall to us in the 2nd round right now.

hometeam
02-24-2009, 01:34 AM
I dont think crabtree will fall to the 2nd round, remember a couple years ago all the media coverage about AP needing surgery and a plate in his shoulder etc etc? I think its the same kind of deal here. Now, as far as Andre Smith is concerned I bet he does fall to the 2nd round, but some GM will take a chance on him sometime in the 2nd just becuase they are gonna pull the trigger and not wait and see if he drops more~

fairladyZ
02-24-2009, 01:49 AM
I would love a LT too. But we need to address the Defense, severely.

Here is a good read for those that say your best defense is a good offense.

Kansas City Chiefs - Ranking the 2008 Offenses (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02/23/ranking_the_2008_offenses/)

Big Daddy Tek
02-24-2009, 02:48 AM
I've been saying that we need to draft an O-lineman this entire time. You have NEVER seen a bad team with a great O-line!

warcrychief
02-24-2009, 03:50 AM
I would love a LT too. But we need to address the Defense, severely.

Here is a good read for those that say your best defense is a good offense.

Kansas City Chiefs - Ranking the 2008 Offenses (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02/23/ranking_the_2008_offenses/)

But there was only 3 teams with poor offenses that entered the postseason.

pbatrucker
02-24-2009, 04:45 AM
After surfing the web for as much information as I can find, this is my conclusion.
Our draft depends on the FA's we sign.
The ravens are resigning Lewis and letting Scott become a free agent. That puts Scott, Vilma and Chandler on the market. I can see us signing two of them.
Our problem at DE will be addresed in FA, probally Smith of the Cardnals.
There are FA capable of playing RT available, that is a possability.
As for the draft:
Curry is awsome and should be our #3 if available, but it looks like the Lions will take him.
After the combine, Jason Smith will be the #1 LT taken, probally by the Rams.
This would mean the only two players that would fit the value of the @3 pick would be Crabtree or Monroe.
If we go to a 3-4 defense year, we will still need a nose tackle. We will Probally make do until next years draft to fill that need. Cody from Alabama will coming out next year and he's about 360 and is a monster in the middle.

Chief Tyler
02-24-2009, 11:35 AM
I would agree and say take the best LT left in the draft. To me the best defense is a great offense. If you score 35+ points a game your defense only has to hold once or twice. However, since we're probably switching from a 4-3 D to a 3-4 D we're going to need to use this draft to take care of what we can't fill in FA and then patch the O til next year.

What happens when your offense runs into a great defense? It sputters almost every time. Just look at the last ten years. Best team of the decade wins three SB's and loses the 4th when it has one the best offenses in history. Pitt takes care of the Cardinals this year. Baltimore and Tampa are among the list of recent champions. Heck, the best Chiefs offense in recent history put together a 13-3 season and hit another road block in the playoffs. I'd rather have a balanced team. The best defense is a good defense, and the best offense is a good offense -_-

northwest
02-24-2009, 11:52 AM
this would be ideal in my opinion. i can't wait for the draft. im going to get up early in the morning and prepare for it like it's the super bowl.

balto
02-24-2009, 12:25 PM
Curry is the best 4-3 LB to out of the draft in years, but in a 3-4 he will not be as dominate!!!! If we stay with 4-3 then Curry is a no brainer, but if we go 3-4 Curry at 3 would be a waste when we could trade down and get an extra 2nd rounder and a next year 2nd rounder and take the best 3-4 MLB in the draft Rey Maualuga!!!!

If we can not trade down we take Monroe. He is the ONLY for sure LT that we know can play with or even better then Albert.

If Monroe is already gone then we should go ahead and give up a TON of draft value and trade down. If we agree to trade down with say the Jags for ONLY a 2nd rounder they will not pass on that. Then we go ahead and draft Maualuga and gain an extra 2nd rounder to use for the Oline OR a pass rushing DE/OLB for our 3-4 D.

If we go to a 3-4:

1) Trade down for good value and draft Rey Maualuga and gain a couple extra picks.

2) Draft Monroe

3) Trade down for low value and draft Rey Maualuga and only gain 1 extra pick.

If we stay with a 4-3:

1) Draft Aaron Curry

2) Trade down and gain a couple extra picks and draft Rey Maualuga or the Top DE

3) Draft Monroe

4) Give up draft value and trade down for only 1 extra pick and take Maualuga or best DE on board

Chief Tyler
02-24-2009, 01:31 PM
Curry is the best 4-3 LB to out of the draft in years, but in a 3-4 he will not be as dominate!!!! If we stay with 4-3 then Curry is a no brainer, but if we go 3-4 Curry at 3 would be a waste when we could trade down and get an extra 2nd rounder and a next year 2nd rounder and take the best 3-4 MLB in the draft Rey Maualuga!!!!

If we can not trade down we take Monroe. He is the ONLY for sure LT that we know can play with or even better then Albert.

If Monroe is already gone then we should go ahead and give up a TON of draft value and trade down. If we agree to trade down with say the Jags for ONLY a 2nd rounder they will not pass on that. Then we go ahead and draft Maualuga and gain an extra 2nd rounder to use for the Oline OR a pass rushing DE/OLB for our 3-4 D.

If we go to a 3-4:

1) Trade down for good value and draft Rey Maualuga and gain a couple extra picks.

2) Draft Monroe

3) Trade down for low value and draft Rey Maualuga and only gain 1 extra pick.

If we stay with a 4-3:

1) Draft Aaron Curry

2) Trade down and gain a couple extra picks and draft Rey Maualuga or the Top DE

3) Draft Monroe

4) Give up draft value and trade down for only 1 extra pick and take Maualuga or best DE on board

If we somehow managed to trade down to with Jax, why not take Raji at 8 (if we don't jump the gun on him there I'd be willing to bet that GB does) and an OLB like Clint Sintim in the second with a Center/Guard pick as the other second round pick. More bang for the buck imo, especially with so many teams making the switch to a 3-4 scheme over the years, players like that come at a premium whereas LB's, especially this year may be a little easier to come by.

As it stands, I've had a little change of heart over the last few days. I'd rather hold on to a 4-3 scheme right now and take Curry 3rd, he seems like a real class act, and the team is geared toward that anyway, just need another quality DL player to complement Curry, and maybe another couple DB's/LB's.

balto
02-24-2009, 02:17 PM
I agree,

Just think of this.

Sign Crowder for MLB

Sign Canty or Smith for our stud DE

Draft Curry.


Tamba----Tank----Dorsey-----Canty/smith

D. Johnson----Crowder-----Curry

Would be a killer 4-3 setup.

chiefnut
02-24-2009, 05:26 PM
hopefully whomever becomes our DC bases his defense scheme 3-4 or 4-3 on available personel not on what he likes to coach, at least until he can get the right guys for his scheme in place. that said we will probably stay at 4-3 for now unless the can juggle the roster around.

Coach
02-24-2009, 08:59 PM
With the release of Donnie Edwards, it would seem likely that we would be leaning towards a 4-3 defense. Or Possibly a hybrid. This team needs LB help in a big way.

tornadospotter
02-24-2009, 09:02 PM
Curry!

chiefsfreak4life
02-24-2009, 11:00 PM
I agree,

Just think of this.

Sign Crowder for MLB

Sign Canty or Smith for our stud DE

Draft Curry.


Tamba----Tank----Dorsey-----Canty/smith

D. Johnson----Crowder-----Curry

Would be a killer 4-3 setup.

Sounds like a Plan, make it so!!!!

pbatrucker
02-25-2009, 11:46 AM
Maybe this:
Sign:
Crowder-MLB
Scott/Vilma -MLB
Smith- DE
Draft Curry!
3-4 anyone:11:

Coach
02-25-2009, 11:28 PM
Maybe this:
Sign:
Crowder-MLB
Scott/Vilma -MLB
Smith- DE
Draft Curry!
3-4 anyone:11:
Crowder is no longer on the market.