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bigpoppachief
02-28-2009, 03:15 PM
We got Cassell and Vrabel for a 2nd rounder !!!!!!!! Pioli is a genius !!!! I am jumping up and down and thanking god for everything in the chiefs universe right now ! I think the Chiefs need to get Curry if he is avaliable and if not Crabtree what do you guys think ? I know everyone is worried about Crabtree's foot but watching him play in college was like watching a man against boys. He is a beast and would give cassell a target to go along with Bowe now if we can get rid of LJ for a 2nd rounder :D Not cause i dont like LJ but I do not want someone that doesnt want to be a chief on OUR team

Drunker Hillbilly
02-28-2009, 03:41 PM
I think there is still a chance that they trade out picks although I would love to get Curry!!

theaxeeffect4311
02-28-2009, 03:44 PM
I think the Chiefs need to be more active in trying to get Khalif Barnes and Laverneus Coles. That would give us a dependable speed receiver and a RT. From their, work on the defense in the draft.

Hayvern
02-28-2009, 03:47 PM
We got Cassell and Vrabel for a 2nd rounder !!!!!!!! Pioli is a genius !!!! I am jumping up and down and thanking god for everything in the chiefs universe right now ! I think the Chiefs need to get Curry if he is avaliable and if not Crabtree what do you guys think ? I know everyone is worried about Crabtree's foot but watching him play in college was like watching a man against boys. He is a beast and would give cassell a target to go along with Bowe now if we can get rid of LJ for a 2nd rounder :D Not cause i dont like LJ but I do not want someone that doesnt want to be a chief on OUR team

This really shakes up a lot of those draft projections. So what do we know? I think it comes down to what the managers saw from the combine. We still have a number of holes to fill, but we know for sure we WILL NOT be drafting some young buck inexperiences QB. Thank GOD! :yahoo:

Now, what is left that is worth the money that a third round pick is going to bring. Well considering a couple of the offensive lineman were being considered for number 1. I could certainly see us going that route. Everyday that we do not hear of any deals for free agents on the line increases the odds that we will draft a lineman.

I also do believe we need something on the defensive line, no one is good enough to be taken at number three so that means a trade down. I don't think too seriously about us drafting a DL though, I think we will likely address that through trade or free agency.

I am not convinced we would not draft a receiver, considering Haley was a receiver coach, I think he has a plan in mind, I think our chances now are better than 50% that we will draft a receiver at number three.

Coach
02-28-2009, 03:47 PM
A trade down scenario is the best for the Chiefs for lots of reasons. I was happy heading into the season with Thigpen as the starter and keeping our 1st and 2nd picks. Now the 2nd pick is gone and we've only solved one position, Vrabel.

I'm defintiely not saying that this was a bad trade. It was a steal. I'm just saying that there is a lot of pressure to make the 1st and 3rd round picks count. Both of those picks need to be starters.

Can we get a starting RG in the 3rd round? I say absolutely. Possibly Loadholt.
Can we get a starting 3-4 LB in the 3rd round? I say that is much more iffy.

So I think the Chiefs take Curry with the #3 pick and then get a RT in the 3rd round.

If someone wants to trade up, then even better.

jmlamerson
02-28-2009, 03:53 PM
I just can't see us passing up Raji at #3, assuming we can't trade down. Yeah, Curry's great, but I think he's gone a #1. And yeah, we need OLB and OL badly, but we can't run the 3-4 without a NT - and we don't have one, nor is one available in FA.

theaxeeffect4311
02-28-2009, 03:54 PM
A trade down scenario is the best for the Chiefs for lots of reasons. I was happy heading into the season with Thigpen as the starter and keeping our 1st and 2nd picks. Now the 2nd pick is gone and we've only solved one position, Vrabel.

I'm defintiely not saying that this was a bad trade. It was a steal. I'm just saying that there is a lot of pressure to make the 1st and 3rd round picks count. Both of those picks need to be starters.

Can we get a starting RG in the 3rd round? I say absolutely. Possibly Loadholt.
Can we get a starting 3-4 LB in the 3rd round? I say that is much more iffy.

So I think the Chiefs take Curry with the #3 pick and then get a RT in the 3rd round.

If someone wants to trade up, then even better.

I think the Chiefs take Aaron Curry. But why is no one talking about Khalif Barnes. He is a 26 year old starting tackle. The Chiefs should be jumping all over these free agent O-linemen, but we haven't done much. We should also be thinking about a speed receiver like Coles or Nate Washington. I think it's a bad trade if we don't spend some of the money on some free agents.

Chief Tyler
02-28-2009, 03:56 PM
Repeating my sentiments from a previous thread:

3 dream scenarios go:

a) Trade down to the Jags for a first swap and a second. Pick up Raji. Sintim in the second, OL in the thrid, possibly Loadholt

b) Hold on to the 1st we have and get Curry, see what we can get for the guys we have wanting out. Possibly get Ron Brace, Unger or Mack in the second, maybe any or all of them :P.

bigpoppachief
02-28-2009, 03:56 PM
I really think we come out of the draft with Curry who is considered the safest bet in the draft. I really think crabtree would look great in a chiefs jersey as well I am just glad we dont have to worry about a QB because I have been watching some clips of cassell and I know he had moss and welker but that guy has some accuraccy that is amazing ! Its def a good time to be a chiefs fan just glad I am always here lol

bigpoppachief
02-28-2009, 03:59 PM
Repeating my sentiments from a previous thread:

3 dream scenarios go:

a) Trade down to the Jags for a first swap and a second. Pick up Raji. Sintim in the second, OL in the thrid, possibly Loadholt

b) Hold on to the 1st we have and get Curry, see what we can get for the guys we have wanting out. Possibly get Ron Brace, Unger or Mack in the second, maybe any or all of them :P.


You know I hate to say this but if they want out send them packing ! These guys annoy me when they complain about everything ! look at that cowboys who have a players coach and see why you want to say hello to the bad guy ! Cheifs fans will be very grateful soon no matter who we lose now. LJ i have authentic 300 dollar jerseys so I do like him but he wants out get what we can for him and drive on this is a business but as we seen with the Dawkins deal there comes a time to move on

theaxeeffect4311
02-28-2009, 04:09 PM
You know I hate to say this but if they want out send them packing ! These guys annoy me when they complain about everything ! look at that cowboys who have a players coach and see why you want to say hello to the bad guy ! Cheifs fans will be very grateful soon no matter who we lose now. LJ i have authentic 300 dollar jerseys so I do like him but he wants out get what we can for him and drive on this is a business but as we seen with the Dawkins deal there comes a time to move on

However, I think players will start to think differently now that Matt Cassel is the QB. But the Chiefs need to go after some of these free agent O-linemen. We can't build a team just from the draft.

bigpoppachief
02-28-2009, 04:14 PM
However, I think players will start to think differently now that Matt Cassel is the QB. But the Chiefs need to go after some of these free agent O-linemen. We can't build a team just from the draft.


Agreed ! I dont know what we are waiting for on that note

windwalker
02-28-2009, 04:30 PM
Now I hope Sanchez is the 1st pick

northwest
02-28-2009, 04:31 PM
it's a good day to be a chiefs fan.

billb40
02-28-2009, 04:49 PM
Now I hope Sanchez is the 1st pick
Why????

Coach
02-28-2009, 04:51 PM
I just can't see us passing up Raji at #3, assuming we can't trade down. Yeah, Curry's great, but I think he's gone a #1. And yeah, we need OLB and OL badly, but we can't run the 3-4 without a NT - and we don't have one, nor is one available in FA.

Dream Scenario:
1. Chiefs trade Dorsey/Thigpen for Julius Peppers and a mid round pick.
2. Chiefs trade down in first round with Jax or TB. They get a 1st and 2nd or 3rd pick. Possbly taking Raji or the best LB on the board. Getting a RT in the 2nd or 3rd.
3. Chiefs trade LJ for a 4th rd pick

jmlamerson
02-28-2009, 05:00 PM
Dream Scenario:
1. Chiefs trade Dorsey/Thigpen for Julius Peppers and a mid round pick.
2. Chiefs trade down in first round with Jax or TB. They get a 1st and 2nd or 3rd pick. Possbly taking Raji or the best LB on the board. Getting a RT in the 2nd or 3rd.
3. Chiefs trade LJ for a 4th rd pick

1. We can't trade Dorsey. It would be a $20M cap hit this year if we trade him prior to June 1. We might be able to stomach it, but I don't see Pioli doing it. Thigpen and Waters for Peppers and a pick is a whole lot more possible.

2. I think Raji goes top-6. I don't see us getting him past the Bengals. Heck, I could see Seattle getting him at 4.

3. If we can do that deal, we defintely do that deal.

Barnett89
02-28-2009, 05:39 PM
I have to say Cassell and Vrabel for a 2nd round draft pick is an absolute steal, yes Cassell has only had one big season statistically but considering what Cassell was thought to be originally going for on his own i wouldn't complain. Massive credit to Pioli on this one. It'll be very interesting to see what we do with this no.3 overall pick now.

DT14PRIEST
02-28-2009, 05:59 PM
Why????

He means Sanchez to Detroit with the first overall

DT14PRIEST
02-28-2009, 06:37 PM
I really can't make an honest assessment to the draft till free agency plays out a bit more. Pending on who we can still sign/trade for can still really alter who we pick at #3 (if we are still at 3 by April). We still don't know (for sure) what defensive scheme we are running or who our Def.-Coord. is yet as well.

There are still a lot of under the radar solid O-Linemen left and a few notable LBs/D-Linemen out there as well. With the emergence of Cassel to the Chiefs you can mark off QB from the Chiefs needs.

I could see the Chiefs drafting any number of players. In no particular order of preference:

1. B.J. Raji, DT (if the Chiefs switch 3-4 they need that NT presence)

2. Aaron Curry, LB (If the Chiefs decide he is the best player on the board at that point he could fill in that empty position with Vrabel, DJ, and a FA [Boley would be nice].

3. Jason Smith, OT (Offensive line has been a priority that hasn't been asessed by this team in years)

Those are about the only players that the Chiefs can take that would make a significant impact (I.e. starting in 09) in the upcoming season. Each addresses a need. Luxury picks such as Crabtree are nice to dream about but in reality have no place in being drafted when the core of your team needs help the most.

EDIT: Just think if the Chiefs got Boley to come to KC and managed to pick up Curry. A 3-4 LB core consisting of Mike Vrabel, Derrick Jonson, Micheal Boley, and Aaron Curry!? That'd be insane. Yet Raji makes the most sense if you're looking for defensive impact immdiately. Its the NT thats the focal point of the front seven in 3-4

hometeam
02-28-2009, 06:40 PM
I would rather take curry and lets see if Tank can be NT.. remmeber he is one of the strongest player sout of his draft class, he can eat some steak and a couple bags of potatoes and put on a few pounds if need be~

AussieChiefsFan
02-28-2009, 07:05 PM
I'm happy with the draft as long as we get Aaron Curry. I can't get over his scouting combine results and just how he plays!:yahoo:

DT14PRIEST
02-28-2009, 07:44 PM
Well you can cross of Mike Boley from my list of OLBs now that he's signed with the New York Giants.

5 year/25$ million dollars

AussieChiefsFan
02-28-2009, 07:47 PM
:undwech:

Canada
02-28-2009, 09:31 PM
it's a good day to be a chiefs fan.

Every day is a good day to be a Chiefs fan!! :bananen_smilies046:

hermhater
02-28-2009, 10:07 PM
Every day is a good day to be a Chiefs fan!! :bananen_smilies046:


:bananen_smilies046:

:11:

honda522
02-28-2009, 10:10 PM
I still think I don't believe in god. But I will admit Pioli is a genius.

DT14PRIEST
03-01-2009, 02:26 AM
I'll just say this about the NT position

Kelly Gregg was the starting NT ahead of Haloti Nagata for the Ravens since 2002 and was the scheduled starter for the 2008 season before he was injured...

6'0 315lbs

Canada
03-01-2009, 03:16 AM
:bananen_smilies046:
Both of our guys are at the 300 pound mark so I am forced to ask you, in your opinion do you feel the extra 15 pounds that Kelly Gregg is carrying makes so much difference that both of our guys Dorsey and Tank should be traded away for men that are carrying the extra 15 pounds so we can compete at that position or should we use the men we have so our NT is basically almost as strong or as strong and maybe a lil bit quicker than the linemen they face?send them out drinkin with me for a weekend. We will put 15 pounds on them in not time!! :bananen_smilies046:

DT14PRIEST
03-01-2009, 03:25 AM
Both of our guys are at the 300 pound mark so I am forced to ask you, in your opinion do you feel the extra 15 pounds that Kelly Gregg is carrying makes so much difference that both of our guys Dorsey and Tank should be traded away for men that are carrying the extra 15 pounds so we can compete at that position or should we use the men we have so our NT is basically almost as strong or as strong and maybe a lil bit quicker than the linemen they face?

Mmm...no. I don't think the weight (in such small increments) has much to do with the difference between a Glenn Dorsey and a Gregg Kelly, its more discipline and technique while playing that factor big for me. The straight line speed of the NT isn't so much a necessity as it is his strength and ability to demand the double team which Dorsey didn't do very well, if at all, last year.

While I'm kind of hesitant to say that Dorsey is DE material he does have the inital burst off the line his outside edge speed I'd imagine is underwhelming and nothing short of non existant. If anything Dorsey would have to drop about 15-20lbs to become anywhere near effective as a DE and develop his quickness.

So in my opinion it'd be best to tell him to gain weight and pack on some muscle and sit him in there at the NT position then try and convert him to DE. He can be coached on how to play a NT faster then he can be physically molded to be an effective DE.

Same story for Tank.