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honda522
04-10-2009, 11:57 AM
Airs tonight 7/8C on the NFL network.


TG will be NUMBER 1!

:yahoo:

Vandelay
04-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Airs tonight 7/8C on the NFL network.


TG will be NUMBER 1!

:yahoo:
He better be.

Vandelay
04-10-2009, 05:32 PM
and after you see the clips of the #1 evan how much you like TG #1 is amazing
Huh?

honda522
04-10-2009, 06:04 PM
and after you see the clips of the #1 evan how much you like TG #1 is amazing
No body is better than Tony.

He hold every record and then some.

N TX Dave
04-10-2009, 10:41 PM
No I did not get to watch it how far down was Tony? I was at church.

AussieChiefsFan
04-10-2009, 10:55 PM
He better be.
Yeah, he better be, or there will be trouble.......:lol:

honda522
04-10-2009, 11:26 PM
I heard he was number 8 from a different source. I want to see the list and then go beat the person who made the list in the head with club.

Aint no one better than Tony.

honda522
04-11-2009, 12:05 AM
were talk all-time not past 10 years

Dude, Tony hold ALL of the records for tight ends. The only thing he doesnt have is ring. And that doesn't make Shannon Sharpe any better of a player.

Tony is the best TE of ALL time, no doubt.

honda522
04-11-2009, 12:29 AM
It means everything.

He has been able to accomplish so much, with nothing.

Just because you don't like him, for what ever strange reason, doesn't make him NOT the best.

Chiefster
04-11-2009, 12:34 AM
...And, the debate begins. :rolleyes:

Chief Tyler
04-11-2009, 01:55 AM
And just because you love him doesn't mean he's the best
I don't know how old you are but all time doesn't mean your lifetime you have to go further back.I thought TG should have been further up on the show but,the top 3 on the show can't recall there names.were amazing people.it's not all about what you put in books,it's about how you run,catch the ball,it about hot aggresive you are.TG is thought to be #1 so much because that's the greatest one you've watched
I will say TG would win best receiving TE hands down,but he may not be the best overall

You just contradicted yourself. Catching, running, and mentality have gotten Tony to where he is. He holds every receiving record for a TE because he does his job so well. The TE position is probably one of the most changing and most versatile positions on a team. It has evolved over the years and it still varies from team to team, so I can understand somebody putting other players ahead of TG, but I can also understand somebody thinking TG is the best TE to play the game.

I'm not sure how long you've watched the Chiefs (or more likely some other team) but I've stopped taking you seriously after stupid comments on including the ones on TG and Tait, but TG is the best TE to play the game in my eyes. I'm surrounded by legions of Packer fans that admit that Sharpe wasn't on the same level as tony. You don't go to 9 straight probowls under a half dozen quarterbacks and multiple different coaching schemes unless you're somebody special. TG has been one of the few constants of a fairly volatile organization over the last decades. You can't say the same about Sharpe, Mackey and Ditka.

Vandelay
04-11-2009, 02:26 AM
Tony is the the best TE of all time. I know it. You know it. The dope who made the list knows it. Nobody would give his list a second look if it made sense, so he made it controversial.

AussieChiefsFan
04-11-2009, 02:28 AM
And just because you love him doesn't mean he's the best
Sorry to disappiont you, but, HE IS the best!

Ldub
04-11-2009, 09:41 AM
It would be nice to give Tony a ring before he retires. Rings do matter. Records are cool and impressive and such, BUT the ultamite goal in the NFL is getting a superbowl ring. If you ask Tony im sure he would trade away all his records for one. Ask Dan Marino...

Canada
04-11-2009, 10:02 AM
And just because you love him doesn't mean he's the best
I don't know how old you are but all time doesn't mean your lifetime you have to go further back.I thought TG should have been further up on the show but,the top 3 on the show can't recall there names.were amazing people.it's not all about what you put in books,it's about how you run,catch the ball,it about hot aggresive you are.TG is thought to be #1 so much because that's the greatest one you've watched
I will say TG would win best receiving TE hands down,but he may not be the best overall

Seems that #1 is so good you can't remember his name. (It was Kellen Winslow sr fyi)


It would be nice to give Tony a ring before he retires. Rings do matter. Records are cool and impressive and such, BUT the ultamite goal in the NFL is getting a superbowl ring. If you ask Tony im sure he would trade away all his records for one. Ask Dan Marino...

Yeah, but how can you use # of rings to judge one player on a team of 11? (offense) By that logic you would have to say that Barry Sanders was not one of the best because he did not win any rings.

Ldub
04-11-2009, 10:30 AM
I do agree with you to a point. Barry is alot like Tony. Both have broken records, and both did it with teams that were terrible. That alone should count for somthing.
My point was more like compairing Joe Montana to Dan Marino. Joe had the rings and Dan had the records. Tony G and Shannon Sharpe will be compaired alot like that. Shannon has the rings Gonzalez has the records. My point was that rings do bare alot of weight when you compair guys in lifetime achivements.

honda522
04-11-2009, 11:38 AM
I do agree with you to a point. Barry is alot like Tony. Both have broken records, and both did it with teams that were terrible. That alone should count for somthing.
My point was more like compairing Joe Montana to Dan Marino. Joe had the rings and Dan had the records. Tony G and Shannon Sharpe will be compaired alot like that. Shannon has the rings Gonzalez has the records. My point was that rings do bare alot of weight when you compair guys in lifetime achivements.
I don't see how you can use rings in any point. Rings is a team effort, not an individual one.

honda522
04-11-2009, 11:47 AM
And just because you love him doesn't mean he's the best
I don't know how old you are but all time doesn't mean your lifetime you have to go further back.I thought TG should have been further up on the show but,the top 3 on the show can't recall there names.were amazing people.it's not all about what you put in books,it's about how you run,catch the ball,it about hot aggresive you are.TG is thought to be #1 so much because that's the greatest one you've watched
I will say TG would win best receiving TE hands down,but he may not be the best overall
If had the time, I could give you a 5 page paper convincing anyone but your self that TG is the best to ever play the game - the few stubborn and stuck up people out like you.

Ldub
04-11-2009, 11:56 AM
I don't see how you can use rings in any point. Rings is a team effort, not an individual one.

Getting a superbowl ring is more important than records. This IS a team sport.

Canada
04-11-2009, 11:57 AM
I do agree with you to a point. Barry is alot like Tony. Both have broken records, and both did it with teams that were terrible. That alone should count for somthing.
My point was more like compairing Joe Montana to Dan Marino. Joe had the rings and Dan had the records. Tony G and Shannon Sharpe will be compaired alot like that. Shannon has the rings Gonzalez has the records. My point was that rings do bare alot of weight when you compair guys in lifetime achivements.

To some extent yes, but when you are counting the top 10 TEs to ever play the game and Tony Gonzalez is not even in the discussion at the top 3 it is a little ridiculous. Most Receptions, most TDs most yards etc and you put Dave Fin Casper ahead of him then they obviously dont know what thy are talking about. Rings or no rings.

Ldub
04-11-2009, 12:09 PM
To some extent yes, but when you are counting the top 10 TEs to ever play the game and Tony Gonzalez is not even in the discussion at the top 3 it is a little ridiculous. Most Receptions, most TDs most yards etc and you put Dave Fin Casper ahead of him then they obviously dont know what thy are talking about. Rings or no rings.

Agreed. Ring or no ring he should be in the top 2. I think Tony is the greatest tight end of all time, im just trying to look at the situation through impartial eyes and I can see how he might not be #1. Being so far down the list is a slap in the face though.

honda522
04-12-2009, 12:51 AM
Getting a superbowl ring is more important than records. This IS a team sport.
Yes and No. It is important to win as a team, but the top tight ends ranking is suppose to be about individual players, not about the team he is on.

AussieChiefsFan
04-12-2009, 02:16 AM
Yes and No. It is important to win as a team, but the top tight ends ranking is suppose to be about individual players, not about the team he is on.
That's a very disagreeable and agreeable statement.

Canada
04-12-2009, 01:45 PM
Getting a superbowl ring is more important than records. This IS a team sport.


Yes and No. It is important to win as a team, but the top tight ends ranking is suppose to be about individual players, not about the team he is on.

Its just flat out NO. This threa is about top 10 TE not Top 10 TE and their surrounding team mates and what their teams accomlished!! :D

honda522
04-12-2009, 03:14 PM
Its just flat out NO. This threa is about top 10 TE not Top 10 TE and their surrounding team mates and what their teams accomlished!! :D
Yes, and look at Tony, he even when the team was the worst it could get, he still put up huge numbers, and thats one of the reasons that makes him the BEST.

KristofLaw
04-12-2009, 03:49 PM
well statistically he's not.........and he's ranked by statistics,live with it
No offence but what's your problem. If TG goes he goes. If TG stays he stays. But come on, the man deserves respect regardless...

... and no he's not god, he's Tony Gonzalez.

Canada
04-12-2009, 08:30 PM
well statistically he's not.........and he's ranked by statistics,live with it

Actually dumbas$ it's the statistics that should make him #1. He has all the records. Watch a football game before you post!! :iamwithstupid:

AussieChiefsFan
04-12-2009, 10:26 PM
well statistically he's not.........and he's ranked by statistics,live with itWell actually, YOU should live with the fact that he is the best TE of all time and that he is staying here on the chiefs too.

honda522
04-12-2009, 11:36 PM
Actually dumbas$ it's the statistics that should make him #1. He has all the records. Watch a football game before you post!! :iamwithstupid:
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