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Big Daddy Tek
07-14-2009, 01:42 AM
Five underrated Chiefs players for the 2009 season

Submitted by Kent Babb for The Kansas City Star



This Chiefs team still has some things to work on before training camp and lots of things to polish before anyone would call this a playoff-caliber team. Wide receivers and offensive linemen need to be surprises, and the 3-4 defense has to work.
The Chiefs also need some players to step up and play better than outsiders might expect. Zach Thomas entered offseason practice as an underrated player, but after he galvanized the defense and established himself as a clear leader, he's not underrated anymore. Tomorrow, we'll write who we think are a few of the Chiefs' overrated players -- yep, there are some whose importance and role have been exaggerated -- but as you might have noticed, we like to be optimistic on Mondays.
So here we go with the possible sleepers for 2009:

- RB Jamaal Charles. The speedy second-year running back should see his role increase this year, mostly in terms of catching passes out of the backfield. Assuming Larry Johnson is healthy and productive, first-year Chiefs coach Todd Haley should be able to take advantage of the surplus of solid running backs and fine-tune their roles. Charles isn't an every-down rusher, but he'd be terrific in a two-running back shotgun formation to be a change-up rusher and give Matt Cassel another reliable target. Heaven knows he won't have many of them.

- WR Mark Bradley. Speaking of wide receivers, Bradley has gone largely unnoticed this offseason. Nobody, likely including Bradley, is complaining about that. While Dwayne Bowe and even Bobby Engram face some degree of pressure, Bradley has quietly been one of the Chiefs' most reliable receivers. He made some spectacular plays last year and helped Tyler Thigpen make his transition from backup to full-time starter. Don't forget that Bradley can throw the ball a little, as well.

- G Mike Goff. Amid all the chaos surrounding guard Brian Waters (who's a candidate for tomorrow's overrated list), it has been easy to forget Goff, a veteran who still has some good years left. He's one of those players who meticulously cares for his body, more so now that he's 33 years old. Goff is a clear upgrade over last year's right guard, Adrian Jones, and if Goff does have to move to left guard if the Waters ordeal can't be worked out, he's about as reliable a replacement as the Chiefs could have.

-NT Tank Tyler. It might be just lip service, but Tyler seems to really believe that the 3-4 is the right scheme for himself and the Chiefs. He played some nose tackle in college at N.C. State, making him one of the few Chiefs-drafted Chiefs with experience in that scheme. Tyler is a former third-round pick who has lots of potential. This might be the philosophy shift that unlocks that potential in Tyler's third year.

-LB Monty Beisel. The Chiefs would like for Beisel to enter the season as a backup, preferably for converted defensive end Tamba Hali. But Beisel easily could be a starter (in fact, we predicted two weeks ago that he will be come opening day) if Hali struggles to make the transition. Beisel is a veteran who played in Chiefs coordinator Clancy Pendergast's defense in Arizona last year. If Beisel does start, that would boost the likely starting linebackers' average age to almost 32 by opening day, and that's not a good thing for the Chiefs. But Beisel would offer experience as the Chiefs make this transition, and that's worth something.

Others who could be sleepers: TE Tony Curtis, NT Ron Edwards, CB Maurice Leggett, CB Donald Washington, DE Alex Magee, S DaJuan Morgan, RB/KR Dantrell Savage.

Chiefster
07-14-2009, 01:51 AM
Time will tell the story.

pbatrucker
07-14-2009, 06:16 AM
I ran across an article last week and didn't think much of it because of his weight, but they predicted that McGee, because of his strenght, would start at NT.

jmlamerson
07-14-2009, 10:31 AM
The is list is . . . eh. I don't think anyone is underrating Goff. He's expected by everyone (Chiefs fans or other) to be a solid C/RG for us in 2009. Same with Beisel. He's expected to be a solid backup ILB (Babb is crazy if he thinks Beisel will be an OLB) and special teams ace. And is anyone underrating Bradley? His stock is the highest its been since he was drafted.

Three better picks for underrated are Brandon Carr (16 game starter for the Chiefs in 2008, and no one except Chiefs fans know about him), Sean Ryan (great blocking TE), and Rudy Niswanger (starting C this season against all odds).

Tank might count as underrated, but he'll have to spend most defensive snaps not getting blown off the line before I'm a believer. Charles definitely counts as underrated is he remains a solid, healthy contributor in 2009.

dbolan
07-14-2009, 11:34 AM
How are they underrated (except Goff) if they really haven't done a whole hell of a lot to prove otherwise? LOL!

With the exception of Goff, I think all of them have something to prove, period. If they do very well this year and not a word about them next year, then, they can be called underrated.

Just my opinion.

I also think that Cassell is just a bit overrated by Chiefs fans and some outsiders as well. As usual, I want him and others to do well but I need to see what the team does in regards to chemistry and playing tough, hard-nosed football.

honda522
07-14-2009, 12:48 PM
Five underrated Chiefs players for the 2009 season
NT Ron Edwards

Are you serious? This guy is still on the team? 3 years of nothing from him, why is he still here.

dbolan
07-14-2009, 02:39 PM
Are you serious? This guy is still on the team? 3 years of nothing from him, why is he still here.

Because there are 2 others that are equally as bad?

:lol:

jmlamerson
07-14-2009, 02:54 PM
Are you serious? This guy is still on the team? 3 years of nothing from him, why is he still here.

Edwards is a pretty average DT, but he did OK (not great, but OK) starting in 2006 and 2007. He probably was (God help us) our best DT over that time period.

Big Daddy Tek
07-14-2009, 03:49 PM
Edwards is a pretty average DT, but he did OK (not great, but OK) starting in 2006 and 2007. He probably was (God help us) our best DT over that time period.

Listen guys. Edwards is here for one reason and one reason only. 6'3 and 325 pounds. On running downs he takes up alot of space. He is very strong and lineman dont move him. The guy never gets blown off the line. In all fairness, he doesnt exactly move others off the line either. He is your traditional run stuffer. The current personel believes that he can be an asset in short yardage situations. Think Kevin Williams with no explosiveness.

honda522
07-14-2009, 08:47 PM
Listen guys. Edwards is here for one reason and one reason only. 6'3 and 325 pounds. On running downs he takes up alot of space. He is very strong and lineman dont move him. The guy never gets blown off the line. In all fairness, he doesnt exactly move others off the line either. He is your traditional run stuffer. The current personel believes that he can be an asset in short yardage situations. Think Kevin Williams with no explosiveness.
PSH, EVERYONE got blown off the line last year.

Seek
07-16-2009, 12:56 PM
LOL... Under Rated players.

If you ask me Jamaal Charles if over rated. There was all this praise from Herm Edwards last year and he can't even hold a jock strap to Derrick Blaylock. This guys is supposed to be a speedster, yet he was caught from behind on a screen last year by someone who made Charles look lame.

I do think Ron Edwards will be a bigger asset this year than any year with the Chiefs. He is an ideal BFF to take up blockers in a 3-4.

jmlamerson
07-16-2009, 03:13 PM
LOL... Under Rated players.

If you ask me Jamaal Charles if over rated. There was all this praise from Herm Edwards last year and he can't even hold a jock strap to Derrick Blaylock. This guys is supposed to be a speedster, yet he was caught from behind on a screen last year by someone who made Charles look lame.

I do think Ron Edwards will be a bigger asset this year than any year with the Chiefs. He is an ideal BFF to take up blockers in a 3-4.

Well, Charles is overrated in the sense that people think he can be a good every-down back. But very few people, especially non-Chiefs fans, think that. If we utilize him in a Kevin Faulk/Darren Sproles sort of way (5-7 touches a game), then he could pleasantly surprise. He has to show he can stay healthy first and foremost.

And I agree on Edwards. Not the best DT or NT out there. Not be a long shot. But as long as he can hold his ground against a double team, he should be good enough to get us through 2009.

honda522
07-16-2009, 07:39 PM
LOL... Under Rated players.

If you ask me Jamaal Charles if over rated. There was all this praise from Herm Edwards last year and he can't even hold a jock strap to Derrick Blaylock. This guys is supposed to be a speedster, yet he was caught from behind on a screen last year by someone who made Charles look lame.

I do think Ron Edwards will be a bigger asset this year than any year with the Chiefs. He is an ideal BFF to take up blockers in a 3-4.
You said it, the Coach last year was Herm Edwards....one of the most under conditioned teams in the history of the NFL.