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Big Daddy Tek
08-04-2009, 07:31 PM
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I Just noticed that the name Dwayne Bowe is everywhere right now. Alot of high expectations for him this year. A star WR in Kansas City? It doesn't even sound right. I've been a Chiefs fan for so long that I cant believe it until I see it. We've had some good ones and even Bowe has been awsome as of late, but to have a superstar top flight WR with an arrowhead on his helmet.....That would be awsome.! Good luck geeting to the next level Dwayne!
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NFL.com has Bowe in thier Top 10 Fantasy WR's this year: http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=09000d5d80feb2eb&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true (http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=09000d5d80feb2eb&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true)

Pro Football Weekly has a new Highlight on Dwayne on their home page: http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/08/04/chiefs-bowe-set-to-join-fantasy-elite (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/08/04/chiefs-bowe-set-to-join-fantasy-elite)

Chris Carter has Dwayne as his breakout player of 2009: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4299028 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4299028)

The Bleacher Report has Bowe / Cassell as the "next great QB-WR tandem": http://bleacherreport.com/articles/131751-matt-cassell-to-dwayne-bowe-a-tandem-in-the-making (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/131751-matt-cassell-to-dwayne-bowe-a-tandem-in-the-making)

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What do you guys think?

IlovetheChiefs
08-04-2009, 08:08 PM
That would be nice. And he'll have the best QB throwing to him that he's had so far.

Vanilla Garilla
08-04-2009, 08:09 PM
He is definitely going to be on my board during the draft, I just hope he keeps his hands and eyes on the ball this year. I think he will because he doesn't want to hear from a pissed off Haley on the sidelines.

Chiefster
08-04-2009, 10:37 PM
May he be the next Andre Rison, without all the off field problems.

honda522
08-05-2009, 12:02 AM
May he be the next Andre Rison, without all the off field problems.
I don't remember Rison too much, but I don't think he was nearly as good as Bowe. I mean I have seen Bowe make some awesome Catches. Didn't Tony have the case of the droppsies in his first couple of years?

pbatrucker
08-05-2009, 12:47 AM
I think Haley will get Bowe's attention about dropped passes. He'll probabaly have him running laps around Arrowhead for every dropped pass.

Hayvern
08-05-2009, 12:59 AM
Dropped passes is not a stat that I can find that is tracked too closely. I guess there are so many variables that go into that stat that it is not really fair to charge the receiver with a dropped pass if the throw happened to be bad to start with so it would be hard. Sort of like Passed balls or wild pitches in baseball.

I do seem to remember "the former Chiefs player that shall remain nameless" having dropped more than his share early going.

Bowe gets a knock for dropping a lot of passes that he should not though, and I think that is where the criticism is the strongest. When a ball is placed directly in your hands and you are not in any danger of getting smacked, then you have to catch that ball. Bowe has dropped those, he seems to catch the ones that are nearly impossible to catch and those make the highlight reels.

I think his problem has been an inability to control his emotion, he seems to be a very emotional player and he seems to get very excited in those plays where he could make something big happen. When he has no time to think about it, his instincts take over and he is a phenom. If Haley and the receivers coach can get him to channel that spirit a little better, then he will make those plays.

Chiefster
08-05-2009, 02:25 AM
Dropped passes is not a stat that I can find that is tracked too closely. I guess there are so many variables that go into that stat that it is not really fair to charge the receiver with a dropped pass if the throw happened to be bad to start with so it would be hard. Sort of like Passed balls or wild pitches in baseball.

I do seem to remember "the former Chiefs player that shall remain nameless" having dropped more than his share early going.

Bowe gets a knock for dropping a lot of passes that he should not though, and I think that is where the criticism is the strongest. When a ball is placed directly in your hands and you are not in any danger of getting smacked, then you have to catch that ball. Bowe has dropped those, he seems to catch the ones that are nearly impossible to catch and those make the highlight reels.

I think his problem has been an inability to control his emotion, he seems to be a very emotional player and he seems to get very excited in those plays where he could make something big happen. When he has no time to think about it, his instincts take over and he is a phenom. If Haley and the receivers coach can get him to channel that spirit a little better, then he will make those plays.

Agreed! It always boggled my mind how he could make such spectacular, almost impossible catches, and drop the ones that hit him between the numbers while being wide open.

hermhater
08-05-2009, 02:27 AM
Dropped passes is not a stat that I can find that is tracked too closely. I guess there are so many variables that go into that stat that it is not really fair to charge the receiver with a dropped pass if the throw happened to be bad to start with so it would be hard. Sort of like Passed balls or wild pitches in baseball.

I do seem to remember "the former Chiefs player that shall remain nameless" having dropped more than his share early going.

Bowe gets a knock for dropping a lot of passes that he should not though, and I think that is where the criticism is the strongest. When a ball is placed directly in your hands and you are not in any danger of getting smacked, then you have to catch that ball. Bowe has dropped those, he seems to catch the ones that are nearly impossible to catch and those make the highlight reels.

I think his problem has been an inability to control his emotion, he seems to be a very emotional player and he seems to get very excited in those plays where he could make something big happen. When he has no time to think about it, his instincts take over and he is a phenom. If Haley and the receivers coach can get him to channel that spirit a little better, then he will make those plays.

I effing love you man.

Seek
08-05-2009, 01:52 PM
I think Haley will get Bowe's attention about dropped passes. He'll probabaly have him running laps around Arrowhead for every dropped pass.

I think he already got his attention by signing Toomer.

The prediction of Bowe having a breakout season could also be the end of Bowe. They already went out and hired a reliable receiver to replace him. If he keeps dropping balls, he won't be starting.

Chief Tyler
08-05-2009, 01:58 PM
I think he already got his attention by signing Toomer.

The prediction of Bowe having a breakout season could also be the end of Bowe. They already went out and hired a reliable receiver to replace him. If he keeps dropping balls, he won't be starting.

You kidding? Toomer was signed for depth and possibly as a WR2/3. Dropped balls or not, Bowe isn't being replaced any time soon. He's by far the top wideout on this team and one of the better ones in the league. The only thing Toomer is going to do for Bowe is help get his head on straight and hopefully take off a little pressure.

Seek
08-05-2009, 04:25 PM
You kidding? Toomer was signed for depth and possibly as a WR2/3. Dropped balls or not, Bowe isn't being replaced any time soon. He's by far the top wideout on this team and one of the better ones in the league. The only thing Toomer is going to do for Bowe is help get his head on straight and hopefully take off a little pressure.

Why does a team go pick up a Wide Receiver days into camp, after complaining about a lot of dropped balls.

If they really wanted to just ge another Wr. they do it before camp.

Common Sense says, Haley did not like what he saw in camp the first couple days, and decided it was necessary to look at other options, thus enter Toomer.

Haley has already ended all of the Bowe Show BS... I get the strong feeling that he does not care much for Bowe and regardless of where he drafted or what talent he does have. If he does not perform, he does not play. If you doubt that, talk to A. Boldin.

Big Daddy Tek
08-05-2009, 09:54 PM
Why does a team go pick up a Wide Receiver days into camp, after complaining about a lot of dropped balls.

If they really wanted to just ge another Wr. they do it before camp.

Common Sense says, Haley did not like what he saw in camp the first couple days, and decided it was necessary to look at other options, thus enter Toomer.

Haley has already ended all of the Bowe Show BS... I get the strong feeling that he does not care much for Bowe and regardless of where he drafted or what talent he does have. If he does not perform, he does not play. If you doubt that, talk to A. Boldin.

I think your "slightly" going too far. First of all, you have to remember that WE HAVE to pick up more players. Pioli has no choice. Right now we dont qualify for 2009 because we havent spent enough. Now obviously there is alot of other positions that he could have signed other than WR, so I agree that they want more production out of that area, but it does not have anything to do with Bowe. I was reading an article last night that was saying that Bowe was the only consistent reciever in camp and that him and Cassell are "Hot" right now.

Bowe is fine. I dont think Toomer's signing has anything to do with him period.

Vanilla Garilla
08-05-2009, 10:17 PM
I for one think the signing of Toomer and Engram is to teach Bowe about what it takes to be a solid, dependable receiver in this league.

Well that and our new QB needs as many weapons as possible right now, especially since the loss of TG.

DT14PRIEST
08-05-2009, 10:29 PM
I'll tell you who is gonna have a big year:

Matt Gutierrez

AkChief49
08-05-2009, 10:45 PM
I'll tell you who is gonna have a big year:

Matt Gutierrez
was he not just let go by the Pats?

DT14PRIEST
08-05-2009, 10:55 PM
was he not just let go by the Pats?

a bad joke

:wheelchair:

AkChief49
08-05-2009, 11:01 PM
a bad joke

:wheelchair:
we just signed Matt -man things move fast -sorry I'm a little slow on info today

AussieChiefsFan
08-06-2009, 03:22 AM
I am one of those people who always thought he would do well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bananen_smilies046: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :bananen_smilies046:

chiefan
08-06-2009, 03:41 AM
Cris Carter did choose Bowe as his breakout player.

Seek
08-07-2009, 02:44 PM
I think your "slightly" going too far. First of all, you have to remember that WE HAVE to pick up more players. Pioli has no choice. Right now we dont qualify for 2009 because we havent spent enough. Now obviously there is alot of other positions that he could have signed other than WR, so I agree that they want more production out of that area, but it does not have anything to do with Bowe. I was reading an article last night that was saying that Bowe was the only consistent reciever in camp and that him and Cassell are "Hot" right now.

Bowe is fine. I dont think Toomer's signing has anything to do with him period.

I think you are ignoring reality. I am just trying to keep you all aware. Bowe is not untouchable. He is not a Pioli or Haley guy and if he does not perform, they can cut him. If the signing of Toomer is not eye opening for Bowe, don't be surprised if Haley benches his butt in favor a player who does not make the stupid mistakes Bowe is historicaly known for, IE Toomer.

I think Haley made it very clear to Devard Darling yesterday and the team that he will not tolerate those mistakes. He sent him to the locker room for lining up wrong in situational drills.

The money issue you presented does not include how much was allocated towards the signing of Cassel and Jackson. Between the two they could easily make up 50 million just this year, depending on how Pioli structured their contracts.

The signing of Toomer could be just that. More depth, but it could also be a safety valve for Bowe. Don't be so closed minded to think Bowe is untouchable. If you disagree talk to Matt Leinart and A. Boldin.

theaxeeffect4311
08-07-2009, 10:48 PM
I think you are ignoring reality. I am just trying to keep you all aware. Bowe is not untouchable. He is not a Pioli or Haley guy and if he does not perform, they can cut him. If the signing of Toomer is not eye opening for Bowe, don't be surprised if Haley benches his butt in favor a player who does not make the stupid mistakes Bowe is historicaly known for, IE Toomer.

I think Haley made it very clear to Devard Darling yesterday and the team that he will not tolerate those mistakes. He sent him to the locker room for lining up wrong in situational drills.

The money issue you presented does not include how much was allocated towards the signing of Cassel and Jackson. Between the two they could easily make up 50 million just this year, depending on how Pioli structured their contracts.

The signing of Toomer could be just that. More depth, but it could also be a safety valve for Bowe. Don't be so closed minded to think Bowe is untouchable. If you disagree talk to Matt Leinart and A. Boldin.

I also think it is a bit extreme to think that a wide receiver signing in the middle of training camp means we have no No. 1 receiver. Bowe is a number 1 receiver hands down. Yes, he has had a lot of dropped balls at some most opportune times. But that is not good enough out of a third year receiver.

In reality, we all knew we had no true no. 2 receiver going back to last season. Darling was not the stud signing Peterson hoped he could become. Engram is a slot guy and a situational receiver. Haley discussed a lot about consistency during camp about his receivers. Bradley was the only other guy we had and he is a pretty bi-polar as receivers come. Some games he'll be on fire and others he can't get open and drop every pass that comes his way. In other words, we have no No. 2 receiver who could be that consistent guy alongside Bowe. Maybe Toomer can be that consistent guy to be the safety valve when Bowe is being double/triple covered. Bowe is not in danger at all.

Bike
08-08-2009, 12:46 AM
I also think it is a bit extreme to think that a wide receiver signing in the middle of training camp means we have no No. 1 receiver. Bowe is a number 1 receiver hands down. Yes, he has had a lot of dropped balls at some most opportune times. But that is not good enough out of a third year receiver.

In reality, we all knew we had no true no. 2 receiver going back to last season. Darling was not the stud signing Peterson hoped he could become. Engram is a slot guy and a situational receiver. Haley discussed a lot about consistency during camp about his receivers. Bradley was the only other guy we had and he is a pretty bi-polar as receivers come. Some games he'll be on fire and others he can't get open and drop every pass that comes his way. In other words, we have no No. 2 receiver who could be that consistent guy alongside Bowe. Maybe Toomer can be that consistent guy to be the safety valve when Bowe is being double/triple covered. Bowe is not in danger at all.
This is Piolis and Haleys team. Bowe wasn't drafted by them. You play heady fundamental football (run your routes, don't drop the damn ball), or you clean out your locker. That being said, I hope Bowe wins us some games and gets to the pro bowl this year.

PawnshopMarimba
08-08-2009, 05:34 AM
I'll admit, I hated on Bowe for missing the easy catches while keenly displaying the ability to make the circus grabs, but if you think about it, it's really encouraging, and only goes to diagnose Dwayne's weakness in this game: focus.

If the man can make all those circus catches, he CAN make the easy receptions. It's just a matter of getting the man to focus and not to think ahead of the reception itself. I promise you that most of his drops were because the guy was already plotting his next move downfield, taking the reception itself for granted.

Fortunately, this IS a treatable condition, and I think that all the hype for Bowe may very well be warranted.

The season's just around the corner, guys.. .I dunno about you, but I CAN NOT WAIT.

bigpoppachief
08-09-2009, 01:03 PM
I effing love you man.


Nice sig herm ! Maybe Jackson can really have a reflective tape there and blind some o linemen ;)

Seek
08-11-2009, 01:56 PM
I also think it is a bit extreme to think that a wide receiver signing in the middle of training camp means we have no No. 1 receiver. Bowe is a number 1 receiver hands down. Yes, he has had a lot of dropped balls at some most opportune times. But that is not good enough out of a third year receiver.

In reality, we all knew we had no true no. 2 receiver going back to last season. Darling was not the stud signing Peterson hoped he could become. Engram is a slot guy and a situational receiver. Haley discussed a lot about consistency during camp about his receivers. Bradley was the only other guy we had and he is a pretty bi-polar as receivers come. Some games he'll be on fire and others he can't get open and drop every pass that comes his way. In other words, we have no No. 2 receiver who could be that consistent guy alongside Bowe. Maybe Toomer can be that consistent guy to be the safety valve when Bowe is being double/triple covered. Bowe is not in danger at all.

I am sorry. I keep hearing people ask Haley how Bowe did today, and he keeps stating. That no one person has a job secured on this team yet. He keeps saying we will put people on the field that plays the way we want them to play.

There has been more than once that I have come away after listening to Haley thinking he isn't at all impressed with Bowe and he is either trying to light a fire under Bowe's behind, or is hinting that Bowe may not be the starter.

It is also very clear to me, that Haley makes decisions based on other intangible qualities, and I don't think he is seeing those in the Bowe Show.

I too don't think logically that Bowe won't start, but there is tons of signs coming form Haley that you shouldn't be surprised. The signing of Toomer could very well be a one year band aid until they can find a better solution next year. It is not very common for a team to pick up a player just after camp starts, unless someone gets hurt. It is not about filling a roster. They are having to cut players to make room for new signings. Someone got Haley's attention to find additional help. It may be Jeff Webb, Devard Darling etc... but someone got Haley concerned and from the interviews, it sounds like it is either Darling or Bowe.

Seek
08-11-2009, 02:22 PM
I also think it is a bit extreme to think that a wide receiver signing in the middle of training camp means we have no No. 1 receiver. Bowe is a number 1 receiver hands down. Yes, he has had a lot of dropped balls at some most opportune times. But that is not good enough out of a third year receiver.

In reality, we all knew we had no true no. 2 receiver going back to last season. Darling was not the stud signing Peterson hoped he could become. Engram is a slot guy and a situational receiver. Haley discussed a lot about consistency during camp about his receivers. Bradley was the only other guy we had and he is a pretty bi-polar as receivers come. Some games he'll be on fire and others he can't get open and drop every pass that comes his way. In other words, we have no No. 2 receiver who could be that consistent guy alongside Bowe. Maybe Toomer can be that consistent guy to be the safety valve when Bowe is being double/triple covered. Bowe is not in danger at all.

I just read that Bowe is now running with Second String. Is that just to give other players reps or could the warning signs I tried to share, be possible.

tornadospotter
08-11-2009, 02:47 PM
I just read that Bowe is now running with Second String. Is that just to give other players reps or could the warning signs I tried to share, be possible.
He is in disfavor of the Head Coach, for not being mentally prepared.