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MPGfanChiefs15
09-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Injured Cassel, Croyle, Thigpen and Gutierrez. What does Haley really have up his sleeve?

jmlamerson
09-05-2009, 10:10 PM
We'll be trading Thigpen (probably).

Hayvern
09-05-2009, 10:14 PM
Since Small Brained (Haley) failed to address the offensive line this season, I figure they are planning on the fact that they are going to need to keep rotating QBs in and out all season as they are going to be all broken up.

Seriously, there is no other reason aside from a trade, but who are you going to trade? Thigpen is not worth all that much, Gutierrez Who? Brokie Croyle is nothing. The only one worth anything is Cassell but we pretty much blew any trade ideas with him when we gave him that huge contract.

No, I think we should all be ready for the bullpen again this year. Cassell will be the starter, Croyle will be middle relief and Thigpen will be the closer. The other guy will be a bench warmer for those rainy days.

texaschief
09-05-2009, 10:21 PM
Pick up Brohm, trade Cassel to Denver for Marshall, release Croyle and Thigpen and keep grab someone to get us through the season to make sure we get a top 10 pick to get Jevon Snead...

Problem solved. :lol:

Vanilla Garilla
09-05-2009, 10:24 PM
Pick up Brohm, trade Cassel to Denver for Marshall, release Croyle and Thigpen and keep grab someone to get us through the season to make sure we get a top 10 pick to get Jevon Snead...

Problem solved. :lol:


Trade Cassel for Marshall, are you out of your mind, or are you drunk?:funnypost:

jmlamerson
09-05-2009, 10:35 PM
Since Small Brained (Haley) failed to address the offensive line this season, I figure they are planning on the fact that they are going to need to keep rotating QBs in and out all season as they are going to be all broken up.

Seriously, there is no other reason aside from a trade, but who are you going to trade? Thigpen is not worth all that much, Gutierrez Who? Brokie Croyle is nothing. The only one worth anything is Cassell but we pretty much blew any trade ideas with him when we gave him that huge contract.

No, I think we should all be ready for the bullpen again this year. Cassell will be the starter, Croyle will be middle relief and Thigpen will be the closer. The other guy will be a bench warmer for those rainy days.

Jacksonville will give us a 5th to 6th rounder for Thigpen. That's the only reason he hasn't been cut.

I mean this nicely, but if you are already turning on the new GM/HC because they cut players from a 2-14 roster and because they put stopping the run at the top of their draft priority list over RT, then you are the definition of a bandwagon fan. I mean, wait for a regular season game before throwing coaches or players under the bus.

And we drafted, signed, or traded for at least four OL who were intended to b starters/key backups(Goff, Brown, Alleman, and Ndukwe). Will they work out? I dunno. But you can't say nothing's been done.

yashi
09-05-2009, 10:42 PM
Jacksonville will give us a 5th to 6th rounder for Thigpen. That's the only reason he hasn't been cut.

I mean this nicely, but if you are already turning on the new GM/HC because they cut players from a 2-14 roster and because they put stopping the run at the top of their draft priority list over RT, then you are the definition of a bandwagon fan. I mean, wait for a regular season game before throwing coaches or players under the bus.

And we drafted, signed, or traded for at least four OL who were intended to b starters/key backups(Goff, Brown, Alleman, and Ndukwe). Will they work out? I dunno. But you can't say nothing's been done.

I seriously doubt any team would trade for Thigpen right now. He played terrible against 2nd teamers and a lot of guys who are now on waivers Thursday. Every pass made from under center was way off. He has no value to teams who don't run mostly out of the shotgun.

jmlamerson
09-05-2009, 10:58 PM
I seriously doubt any team would trade for Thigpen right now. He played terrible against 2nd teamers and a lot of guys who are now on waivers Thursday. Every pass made from under center was way off. He has no value to teams who don't run mostly out of the shotgun.

I know this is bad logic, but I think that if we couldn't trade Thigpen, then we probably wouldn't have kept him.

We'll find out soon enough, right?

MPGfanChiefs15
09-05-2009, 11:03 PM
Since Small Brained (Haley) failed to address the offensive line this season, I figure they are planning on the fact that they are going to need to keep rotating QBs in and out all season as they are going to be all broken up.

Seriously, there is no other reason aside from a trade, but who are you going to trade? Thigpen is not worth all that much, Gutierrez Who? Brokie Croyle is nothing. The only one worth anything is Cassell but we pretty much blew any trade ideas with him when we gave him that huge contract.

No, I think we should all be ready for the bullpen again this year. Cassell will be the starter, Croyle will be middle relief and Thigpen will be the closer. The other guy will be a bench warmer for those rainy days.
Gutierrez who? At one point the Patriots considered Gutierrez and Cassel even. Something happened behind the scenes that gave Cassel the upper hand and that same season Brady got hurt and Cassel went from a bench warmer to start and later a very desired quarterback. Now the Pats are in a QB crisis and are in desperate need of backups with knowledge of their system. Gutierrez is definitely more valueable than you think.

AkChief49
09-05-2009, 11:04 PM
Jacksonville will give us a 5th to 6th rounder for Thigpen. That's the only reason he hasn't been cut.

I mean this nicely, but if you are already turning on the new GM/HC because they cut players from a 2-14 roster and because they put stopping the run at the top of their draft priority list over RT, then you are the definition of a bandwagon fan. I mean, wait for a regular season game before throwing coaches or players under the bus.

And we drafted, signed, or traded for at least four OL who were intended to b starters/key backups(Goff, Brown, Alleman, and Ndukwe). Will they work out? I dunno. But you can't say nothing's been done.
they better hurry because the Bucs just traded McCown to them ----Bucs trade Luke McCown to Jacksonville
Posted by Mike Florio on September 5, 2009 9:58 PM ET
Last year, the decision of Brett Favre to play for the Jets caused the Jets to cut Chad Pennington. Which in turn caused the Dolphins to sign Pennington. Which in turn caused the Dolphins to trade quarterback Josh McCown, who had received a $2.5 million roster bonus as part of a new offseason deal, to the Panthers.

This year, the other McCown brother, Luke, received a $2.5 million signing bonus to stay with the Buccaneers. But after Byron Leftwich acquired as what initially was believed to be a smokescreen to make other teams think the Bucs wouldn't draft Josh Freeman, Leftwich won the starting job, and Freeman is the future.

And so the Bucs didn't need Luke McCown.

As a result, McCown has been traded to the Jaguars for an undisclosed draft pick, the Buccaneers have announced.

The Jaguars were believed to be looking for depth at quarterback, and the Bucs were believed to be wishing/hoping/praying that someone would call them regarding one of their four quarterbacks.

Hayvern
09-05-2009, 11:10 PM
Jacksonville will give us a 5th to 6th rounder for Thigpen. That's the only reason he hasn't been cut.

I mean this nicely, but if you are already turning on the new GM/HC because they cut players from a 2-14 roster and because they put stopping the run at the top of their draft priority list over RT, then you are the definition of a bandwagon fan. I mean, wait for a regular season game before throwing coaches or players under the bus.

And we drafted, signed, or traded for at least four OL who were intended to b starters/key backups(Goff, Brown, Alleman, and Ndukwe). Will they work out? I dunno. But you can't say nothing's been done.

I am already cutting a head coach who has shown poor decisions and judgement. The GM did not cut Pollard, the GM did not fire Gailey. Those decisions are the head coach's and while Pioli can likely overrule those decisions, I doubt he will.

If you do not think that it was Haley's decision to cut Gailey, go back to the press conference when it was announced and listen to what Haley said. Heck read any newspaper article on the subject, here is one:

KC chaos: Gailey given boot - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2009/09/01/kc_chaos_gailey_given_boot/)

Hayvern
09-05-2009, 11:12 PM
Gutierrez who? At one point the Patriots considered Gutierrez and Cassel even. Something happened behind the scenes that gave Cassel the upper hand and that same season Brady got hurt and Cassel went from a bench warmer to start and later a very desired quarterback. Now the Pats are in a QB crisis and are in desperate need of backups with knowledge of their system. Gutierrez is definitely more valueable than you think.

That only proves to me again how much of a mistake it was giving Cassel a 65 million dollar contract.

It is really not a testament to how good Guterriez might be, it is more likely a case of Cassel being overrated.

texaschief
09-05-2009, 11:12 PM
Gutierrez who? At one point the Patriots considered Gutierrez and Cassel even. Something happened behind the scenes that gave Cassel the upper hand and that same season Brady got hurt and Cassel went from a bench warmer to start and later a very desired quarterback. Now the Pats are in a QB crisis and are in desperate need of backups with knowledge of their system. Gutierrez is definitely more valueable than you think.

I like this theory the best. But that still leaves Croyle or Thigpen as the backup unless we pick someone else up (please please please).

honda522
09-05-2009, 11:19 PM
With the line the way it is we need alot of back ups.

jmlamerson
09-05-2009, 11:22 PM
I am already cutting a head coach who has shown poor decisions and judgement. The GM did not cut Pollard, the GM did not fire Gailey. Those decisions are the head coach's and while Pioli can likely overrule those decisions, I doubt he will.

If you do not think that it was Haley's decision to cut Gailey, go back to the press conference when it was announced and listen to what Haley said. Heck read any newspaper article on the subject, here is one:

KC chaos: Gailey given boot - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2009/09/01/kc_chaos_gailey_given_boot/)

Um, I never wrote Haley didn't fire Gailey. I know he did. He blamed Gailey for getting Cassel hurt and for the lack of TDs in preseason.

And you are misunderstanding the relationship between a GM and a HC. Pioli will not cut a player unless he agrees that player should be cut. Now, I have no doubt that Haley chose the final cuts, but everything went through with Pioli's blessing.

AkChief49
09-05-2009, 11:25 PM
okay so we kept 4 QB's. who are we going to trade with now that the Bucs traded McCown to the Jags? Gut. back to the Patriots?