Cassell or Thigpen?
I just wanted to be the first person to post a QB controversy thread. I'm sure it will be talked about a lot by Thigpen fans.
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Cassell or Thigpen?
I just wanted to be the first person to post a QB controversy thread. I'm sure it will be talked about a lot by Thigpen fans.
Trade Thigpen to anyone...
NO CONTROVERSY!!!! I just thought I would be the one to put this thread to rest!!!!!!! LOL!!
I liked the thought of Thigpin as the QB, but now everything changed. So i agree that it is a no brainer, but... I still think it could have bin fun to see Thigpin this season :)
I think Cassel will be starting.
I also think that Pioli has a plan to shore up the O line.
No way this trade would have happened if he doesn't.
Pioli didn't trade for Cassel to have him ride the bench.
Ha. I like Thigpen, and I see him as a valuable gadget guy/backup for us next season. Don't be surprised if we line him up at WR sometimes. Also don't be surprised if we trade him to a team like Carolina, Tennessee, or Jacksonville for picks.
But Cassel is the starter. There's no controversy.
Trade Thig? WTF? How bout we keep our good players? I think that is a good idea.
Injuries do happen, we do need depth at QB position. Competant depth.
I hear ya Snake.
We gotta keep Thiggy. Last year taught us that the backup, and even the 3rd string, better be ready at all times.
Didn't Thigpen play running back in High School or something? I agree with the notion of him being the gadget guy, sort of the Wildcat QB or something like that.
1 - Cassel
2 - Thigpen
3 - Quinn Gray
4 - ...Ingle Martin?
A very nice depth chart to have especially at QB
Croyle is easy to forget for obvious reasons!!! Wish we had that pick back.
Right now Thigpen has to have the nod. He has the team's playbook down already, and he has the players' support.
Cassell should not get the start because we gave such and such for him. Thigpen lead this team last year a piss poor front line. Cassell did good behind a good not great but good line. this should be Thigpens job to lose and lose in a fair unbiased compitition. End of story!
We saw first hand in New England this past year that it never hurts to have two starting QB's on roster. It just takes one play for a guy to be out of the lineup (Tom Brady, all of KC's wounded the past couple of seasons).
I agree, but its not gonna happen.
This is Piolis boy who knows him on a personal level. And you cant pay someone like that to not start him.
When training camp starts theyll get a good idea of how Cassell and Thig fit into the system. We'll see what happens then.
its not about telling people off I just want to see the best man for the position take the team on the field next year
I don't know how you can determine the better player by just saying one thing or the other, but it'd be a monumental coaching mishap if Cassel was to be on the bench and Thigpen started both from a financial point and a skill set p.o.v. Thigpen was serviceable at best during the season but proved little in the way of being a long term solution, yea he may have won over some people and made the Chiefs watchable but in reality was never the solution to our woes.
Just look at it like this. Cassel and Thigpen are similar in mechanics. They're both agile Quarterbacks who are able to move the pocket, throw on the run, and tuck the ball and run.
The difference?
- Cassel has the arm strength
- Consistency
- Accuracy
- On the field leadership
Thigpen was good but was never really the on the field presence that the Chiefs needed to lead. The highlights don't lie.
EDIT: But I will agree there will be QB competition in training camp. You can bet on it. But I'd be willing to bet that Cassel proves why he deserves the starting job.
Just look at it like this. Cassel and Thigpen are similar in mechanics. They're both agile Quarterbacks who are able to move the pocket, throw on the run, and tuck the ball and run.
The difference?
- Cassel has the arm strength
- Consistency
- Accuracy
- On the field leadership
Thigpen was good but was never really the on the field presence that the Chiefs needed to lead. The highlights don't lie.
EDIT: But I will agree there will be QB competition in training camp. You can bet on it. But I'd be willing to bet that Cassel proves why he deserves the starting job.[/quote]
cassell had more time and better protection field leadership can be debated
Hey I'm the biggest Thigpen supporter out there, but I'm not nieve enough to think there's going to be a QB competition this preseason. Cassel was brought in to start, end of story. I hate QB controversies. P.S. this is going to be one hail of a year, IMO. :bananen_smilies046:
Done deal.
Agreed.
But.... Also agreed.
What's best for the team makes absolutely no difference at this point. Cassel is the starter.
A QB competition will be announced. But, just like the Croyle/Huard competition from '07, there will not be a competition.
I believe that Cassel is the slightly better QB. But that we will see Thigpen starting at some point, unless we get some O-line upgrades.
This is untrue. Going by stats alone for the 2008 season
Chiefs OLine allowed 37 Sacks
Pats OLine allowed 48 Sacks
That doesn't equate to better oline for NE in my books.
This is half right and half wrong.
Lets not forget that just because Gailey is around that Haley is going to run his offensive scheme. Haley is going to implement whatever offense he has in mind so that means the playbook is going to change for everyone on the team.
I will say that Thigpen has the support of some players but as long as Cassel can get the ball to the play makers and their individual stats go up you'll see them rally behind Cassel. Gonzo is a stat man. Plain and simple, his best statiscal season was last year and Thigpen went to him on every passing down so it makes sense for him to have some loyalty to Thigpen when his HoF numbers get better with every game.