he's murdering young kids in afghan for politics. their being used as political pawns. which burn's my A** since i served to.
now he's claims he's pulling out in 011. just to shut up the protesters. gooood morning Vietnam !!!!
he's murdering young kids in afghan for politics. their being used as political pawns. which burn's my A** since i served to.
now he's claims he's pulling out in 011. just to shut up the protesters. gooood morning Vietnam !!!!
yes you are. his name was Usama Bin Laden. and BOTH parties agreed to go after him.
Obama claimed publicly this war was winnable. now like all liberals he's changed his mind.
if we leave the tali ban and Bin Laden move back into afghan and the genocide begins. they get their old bases back and plot another 9-11.
what was that guys name who won in Iraq???
Just because you are hard working doesn't mean you will even be middle class under Capitalism. In the end they are equally terrible on their own unless everyone is really moral, nice, and perfect.
Thankfully we have been the middle road with Socialism and Capitalism. In the end, I wouldn't want to live in either kind of country. Blended, like the USA or Canada, is where I want to live.
?????? You are not serious? This is where we should have been putting military resources in all along, I would agree, Iraq was finishing what should have been done the first time. But you surely do not mean, WE STARTED THIS WHOLE WAR!!!!
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Sorry, I have to disagree and this post clearly is coming from someone who has not given it enough hard work yet.
If you get in and learn everything there is to know about the job you are doing and then work hard at it, even if that job is flipping burgers, you will be noticed and promoted.
Did you know you could potentially make 200K per year working for McDonalds? I had a friend who started 15 years ago working for McDonalds flipping burgers. In 6 months he was a manager for a store, in 4 years he was managing a region of stores. Now he is in the corporate HQ. I have not talked to him in years, but I am sure he is making better than a middle class salary as he designs work flows.
It is all about how you apply yourself. If you are the kind of person who is going to complain and only put out enough to get through the day, then you are not going to make it in a capitalistic society, but you will be just fine in a socialist society.
It's alright if you are that guy, we need those guys too, but you need to accept the fate you have made for yourself and stop trying to take my hard work and success away from me!
Why would you want to punish me anyway? What have I ever done to you? I have never in my career ever done anything to keep a fellow working down. I have measured myself against them though and always done MORE than they did. While my friends were out partying and having a good time, I studied and got a Masters degree. While my co-workers were angry that they were not getting raises, I was working 60 hours per week to make the company money.
Because that is what it is all about, you guys who are complaining about capitalism are some of the most selfish people EVER! You don't realize that the way you make money is to make money for the company, most of you just want to complain about how much money the company makes like somehow YOU are owed something for just showing up and gracing everyone else with your presence that day!
Look, healthcare, owning a house, owning a car and having a job are NOT RIGHTS!!! You have to work at it, and there are people on this board who are keenly aware of this.
America is the country with the most opportunity in it than any country on earth! Why do you think so many people want to come here??
OK, I'm done, off my soapbox!!
Ugh.....America is a blend of Capitalism and Socialism. Once again not everyone is fortunate enough to be hard working and yet that doesn't always matter. What is this punishing you thing come from? I believe in a blend of everything and thats what we are. We aren't fully capitalist. Not everyone is fortunate and everyone requires different needs. You can't just give people everything like Socialism but you also can't just let everyone figure everything out on their own. Then the fortunate people will rule with the most capital to begin with and then its basically Fascism. Free market doesn't mean free nation. I don't want to drift too far right nor too far left. I stand in the middle. I don't want left wing big government nor right wing big government. Really Im only pointing out the major flaws with capitalism so people wake up and realize it isn't all good. People already know Socialism's flaws in this nation so I will point out Capitalism's as well.
What is fortunate about being hardworking? That is in YOUR control, whatever it is you are doing, do it the best you can. If you are unemployed, make getting a job your job! Spend time and research the companies you want to go for. Go into the interview with a clear plan on how YOU can help the company! There is nothing fortunate about these things, you just do it.
The punishing part comes from the fact that the more money one makes, the more money the government takes. There are truly people out there that need help, but this country and especially the government we have now, want to make a new class of victims out there that feel that there is no help except through the government help. You have bitten and swallowed this hook, line and sinker!Quote:
What is this punishing you thing come from? I believe in a blend of everything and thats what we are. We aren't fully capitalist. Not everyone is fortunate and everyone requires different needs. You can't just give people everything like Socialism but you also can't just let everyone figure everything out on their own.
Really? Ummm I don't think you know what Fascism is. This current group is closer to Fascism than you think, they want to control the media, control the majority of the money in this country and ultimately want to push any opponent out of the way so they can do what they want to do. The want to control labor and business and that is completely inline with what Mussolini wanted to do.Quote:
Then the fortunate people will rule with the most capital to begin with and then its basically Fascism.
Really? Because you really seem to be firmly entrenched in the socialism side of things. I would challenge you to find one good thing to say about capitalism. Do it, put up one thing that is good about Capitalism and how it has helped you in your life.Quote:
Free market doesn't mean free nation. I don't want to drift too far right nor too far left. I stand in the middle. I don't want left wing big government nor right wing big government. Really Im only pointing out the major flaws with capitalism so people wake up and realize it isn't all good. People already know Socialism's flaws in this nation so I will point out Capitalism's as well.
I am not saying that social programs are not needed, clearly we want to have government control on industry, that is what government was meant to do. We also want to have the military controlled by the government, we want to have roads and bridges. Some people say they want to have schools too, but I would say that the private sector has proven they can out perform Government education everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
I am alright with those things, but our Government and this particular administration has gone too far with their nationalist agenda. The American people do not like it. What Obama is trying to do it nationalize a big portion of the American economy and it is a horrible mistake in the making. Government cannot compete with the private sector it has been proven over and over and over again.
Yet, once the Federal Government takes something away, you will NEVER get it back, no matter how bloated and terrible it becomes it will ALWAYS be taken away, that is why we should fight for every freedom we have without fail and without prejudice.
Not to change the subject, but I once heard George Stephanopolos say that if the liberals in this country read the second amendment like they read the first or fifth amendments, not only would all gun ownership be legal, it would be required.
That is the problem in this country, people are willing to give up even the smallest of freedoms too easily. We need to fight for everyone of them, and yes, that includes your right to say you want a socialist government.
Capitalism does not determine freedom, in fact it is the opposite, you have to have freedom in order to have capitalism. The more that Government takes away, the more socialist our contry becomes.
So wait... How is Obama murdering people? By not immediately withdrawing troops?
I am just failing to understand how you are blaming Obama for murdering people, I guess.
As much as people hate to hear it, THAT was not the first step in all of this.
Surely there was some reason why 9/11 happened. Why were those people so happy to give their lives to do that?
Were they maybe at war with us before that?
And, please, don't try to paint me as saying that 9/11 was somehow justified, or that the victims were somehow deserving.
I am not saying anything remotely close to that.
But, if you poke someone in the ribs, afte being repeatedly told (street demonstrations of "death to America") that it is unappreciated, might that someone hit you in the mouth, eventually?
Because the poverty line is nowhere near as bad as it is in their home countries.
Not like there are boatloads of French, British, German, Russian, Swedish, Icelanic, or Australian refugees hitting or beaches each day.
The fact that people flock here from poverty-stricken nations like they do, simply says that those countries are in worse shape than this.
And, before you bother to mention they few... Of course some people move here from those other nations. Just as some move from here to other nations.
You can be the hardest working, most dedicated employee to have ever existed.
But that does not, in any way, mean that you are going to be successful.
Just as you can be the laziest, not givin' a sh**inest, individual to ever exist and still have the world at your feet.
Those who have it do not redistribute it. They keep it.
There is never an opportunity for the wealth to be spread out. It is staying right where it is.
Capitalism is ruled by greed. Plain and simple.
It is clear as day, when rescue efforts, to save peoples' lives from a natural disaster are put on hold to prevent 'looting'.
As far as I am ever going to be concerned, the a**wipe drug dealer in 'the hood''s life is more important than every penny you have ever made.
I would be ecstatic to punish you financially, before punishing others with premature death.
No mater how lazy they are.
I think that things will never get any better until we can all find some sort of common ground somewhere in the middle of the road; this means compromise on both sides. It's a little like the Bud Light commercials where the "Bud Light" guy in the middle (the politicians) gets the two guys on each side of him (John Q. Public) arguing over weather or not Bud Light (the system) tastes great or is less filling.
...Or maybe I just see analogies in the weirdest places. :D