According to the KC Star, Cassel has signed a multi-year contract.
Chiefs sign Matt Cassel to multi-year contract | Red Zone
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According to the KC Star, Cassel has signed a multi-year contract.
Chiefs sign Matt Cassel to multi-year contract | Red Zone
Seen the same on Fox Sports via MSN
Report: Chiefs sign QB Cassel to long-term deal - FOX Sports on MSN
Looks like they gave seen enough to pencil him in as the "Golden Boy"! That leaves Thiggy and of course, Croyle to holding the clipboard (jockstrap). LMAO!
Good move. If you're willing to trade a 2nd for Cassel, you sign him long term. Halfway measures never won anybody anything.
The big question now is whether we keep Thigpen for the final year of his contract or trade him now when his value is highest. I say keep him unless someone offers too much (2nd rounder or higher) to say "no."
One thing that has not been mentioned by anybody is the backup QB competition. Todd Haley has said that he doesn't care about any type of situation (high conract, veteran, undrafted, etc.) when it comes to picking his depth chart. The best will play. With that said. There is no way Thigpen out plays Croyle in training camp if Brodie is 100%. Im not saying that I want Brodie in front of Thigpen, because I like Thigpen alot. But he is just not a seasoned QB like Croyle. You all know what the players and coaches thought of Brodie in last years training camp / pre-season. Bottom line: the guy has a cannon that even Matt Cassell can't match. IF the coaches can look past the fact that he makes Mike Brown look like MR. Durability (which is a big if), I think Brodie VS. Thigpen is a joke of a competition when your looking at SKILL. It was only a year ago when we all put our entire franchise hopes on that kid. Anyway, just a thought. It will be interesting how this all pans out when Brodie is launching spirals at these guys during QB drills.
In addition to BDK's post...Don't think for one second that Haley has not laid down the law to Croyle. I am sure he has worked on his conditioning, etc etc this iff season. Plus, he new marriage has worn off, so he doesn't care as much about tappng the wife as he did when they first got hitched. LMAO!
well im glad the contract is front heavy. if he doesnt pan out after acouple of years he will be easier 2 move.
Outside of a few people on this board, no one likes Thigpen.
2-14, enough said. change was needed.
matt's the man, now go win me a title.
I had hoped that they would give him one year at $15 million, since we have all of the cap space in the world, and then decide what he is worth in the off season. I am sure he would have been more than happy to make $15 million vs $10 million this year. Why would they make a long term decision on him when they had a whole season to make a decision? Maybe they decided they needed to give him a long term deal to boost his confidence?
It does seem a little premature but Cassel's success last year combined with trusting Pioli's insticts has me mostly excited about this extension too.
6 year deal for $60 million, 28$ million guaranteed. It looks like we have our franchise QB fellas.
Chiefs QB Cassel signs six-year contract worth over $60 million
Anyone still think that the QB position is still open for competition? :D
You have any ideas as to interested teams? I've been playing with different scenarios since this was announced. The best one I've come up with is Thiggy and the ATL second to Arizona for Boldin. A kid can dream :) I think they've given up on Leinart, though I don't think Thigpen is the type of QB that would allow them to be successful with the long ball like they have been, plus they're going to want to make another deep playoff push, no sense in trading for a future QB now.
All this bodes well not only for Cassel (who hit the pay day while) but for the Chiefs as well. With Pioli negotiations he frontloaded the contract and gaurenteed the Chiefs have Cassel for at least 3-4 years while not overpaying him (I.E. Detroit/Stafford). With gaurentees in-I think the $28 million dollar range-he payed a NFL experiencedQB ~$13 million less and locked him up for the forseeable future, or at least the years leading up and into his prime hopefully.
After more details of the contract come out we can see how his contract also affects:
A) The Chiefs current cap surplus (somewhere estimated in the ~30 million dollar range piror to his signing).
B) Negotiations with our 09 draft picks (the negotations with Tyson Jackson mainly [as well as our other draft choices] should/will be the main focus of the front office now that the QB situation is settled.
C) The affect on the team and the trickle down from the top now that it looks like the team is shaping up (financially at least)
Just what I was hoping to hear after a couple of weeks of drought on the news front.
I also forgot to put in about the frontloaded contract and how it affects the team postively in the future. Once the gaurentee in the first 3 years is over (assuming the Cheifs have made significant progress during the first 3 years where he is gaurenteed to make $28 million ($ 40.5 million in 3 seasons) and the cap hit drops in the 4th year the team can reload its roster while not having the cap restrictions due to poor contract management. A very cap friendly contract both for the present and forseeable future)
The only thing left now is to wait and see.
Edit: Had to change some numbers around oops.
Edit 2: Jonh Clayton makes a good point:
Cassel was in a leverage position on a one-year deal to command more than the six-year, $63 million pact he agreed to with the Chiefs. With another season comparable to his 2008 breakout performance, Cassel could have commanded more next winter in free agency. Clearly, he wants to be in Kansas City. Pioli held firm in trying to get the average salary number around $10 million a year. He was successful
For those saying wait an see
I don't think AZ would trade Leinert for Thigpen straight up. Leinert has the big gun perfect for their vertical offense. He just needs maturity and conditioning. Thigpen is the exact wrong type of QB for the AZ offense - too small with an average arm.
Purely guessing, the obvious trade partner is Carolina. Thigpen's a hometown guy, the Panthers are a playoff team in a very weak NFC, and Carolina has an enormous need for a young, competent backup (which McNown definitely isn't). Seattle has to know Seneca Wallace isn't the guy right now and would also be a good landing place for Thigpen. Problem is that those teams probably wouldn't trade a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Thigpen.
Brodie didn't play in the same system as Thigpen either. That was a completly differerent offense that Croyle and Huard had. When Thigpen did play in that offense ( during the Atlanta game ) he was nothing short of embarrasing. As far as wins go, Thigpen won 2 and crumbled at the end of games. I do like him and think that he can only get better, but he just doesnt have the natural skillset that seasoned QB's do. My point wasn't that Croyle was great and that he should be the backup. It was that in a QB competition he will smoke Thigpen, whether we like it or not. Im guessing that he will be our backup, but If it is truly an open competition, I just dont see him being able to beat out Brodie.
I mean "seasoned" in the fact that he has been a QB his whole life. Has a Big league arm, played for a big school, played a million games at QB.
Hmm...
I hope this pans out...
I mean, IMO Tyler Thigpen is more than worthy of being first string QB but, Matt cassell is that little bit btter.
And I agree. If Thigpen can't be first string he has to be almost certainly second string!
As for Brodie Croyle, I feel for him but IMO he doesn't have what it takes.
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FYI Thigpen only won one game - the Oakland game. Huard won the Denver game.
Thigpen has his good points - he's tough, can scramble, and isn't careless with the football. But he's probably not a NFL starter and he'd have trouble playing in a conventional NFL offense due to height and accuracy issues. He's a perfect backup QB.
Brodie Croyle is like a lot of Herm Edwards picks - every measurable except the ability to stay upright. If the NFL were a flag football league, he'd be a top-10 QB. But it isn't. He's just not worth the roster spot.
Slow your roll big guy. I dont want this to turn into a I love Brodie and hate Thigpen thing. I like Thigpen alot more than Brodie. I even mentioned that Brodie makes Mike Brown look like Mr. Durability. Im not saying anything bad about Thigpen. Im just telling you the facts. In a fair QB competition in training camp / pre-season, Thigpen could not beat out Brodie. He wouldnt stand a chance.
Don't give me the no wins crap either. I was wrong in my last post. I said Thigpen won 2 games. He actually only won one! Huard won the other one against the Broncos. Thigpen wins= 1 Croyle wins= 0. Throw that stat out the window! You might hate Brodie's wimpy a$$ as much as we all do, but stop letting Thigpens days in the spread cloud your vision!
All I was saying is that IF the backup spot is open to competition as much as any other position that Haley proclaimed is....then Thigpen would have a tough time beating out Brodie. The guy has a cannon and is somewhat accurate. WITH THAT SAID, I dont think that the backup postion is open to anybody other than Tyler.
What do you know about QB's anyway, this is what you had to say about Trent Green: "Ya know, I like Trent and I think he did a better than average job while he managed our Offense." This is what you said about his retirement: "Trent is a great guy and all but, no Championships no big deal." you continued by saying "Yea, he was a decent QB but he couldn't do enough to help us win a SB." Even though he led us down the field to score on EVERY SINGLE POSESSION in the Colts playoff game. Every single one! He should have done more though. huh Chris? Marino should have done more too, cause he's just another loser like Trent!
Sorry for pullin out thread quotes from last month, but I've completly discarded anything that you've had to say ever since you made those ridiculously ignorant remarks. But you know what Chris, it's just my opinion! hahahahaha
I like your sig.
The comparison in QB play between Croyle and Thigpen in college is enough to prove who is the legit pro-style QB.
If any of you guys EVER watched SEC football, Croyle took a ton of hits and showed a lot of toughness. Do I think he could work on his frame to be more durable? Yes. Do I think he has had some shatty luck in regards to injuries? Yes.
Let's put it this way...So far he is still on the roster and he makes virtual peanuts for salary. If the big boys upstairs thought he was a total waste, they would have sent him packing by now.
The bottom line is that we have 2 pretty decent back-ups going into an offensive scheme that permits good qb production.
Don't worry, be happy!
LOL