I will give them a C+. Did not blow me away, but also did not surprise me
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I will give them a C+. Did not blow me away, but also did not surprise me
C-. All our picks are boom or busts. And half have durability or injury concerns. Did we get one for sure solid player?
B- if you include alex smith since he took our 2nd round pick
IMO every pick is boom or bust. I just never think there is a for sure player in the draft. That's just how I look at it. you are rolling the dice with every pick the risk just dies a little each roundQuote:
Originally Posted by jason1981
Biggest need heading into the draft in my opinion was pass defense. We used our first 2 picks to address it. We used our 4th rd pick to address the loss of Dexter McCluster. 5th rd pick of Aaron Murray wasn't completely necessary but was a great value pick in my opinion. He could be our long term solution at QB if Alex Smith gets greedy.
6th rd picks were used to add depth to a depleted OL. I like the draft. We didn't get a big time WR like many wanted. But one will become available via free agency during the summer.Quote:
“I’ve just done this quarterback camp show for five years,” Gruden said on ESPN afterwards. “We’ve been fortunate to have a lot of kids come through here. He’s at the top of the food chain, Murray. There’s a lot of things to like about him: his production, his mental and physical toughness and the way he plays the position. I don’t know what round he’s going in. I never understood the draft, but he’s going to make somebody’s draft very, very exciting.”
I give this draft a solid B.
A+ for not allowing the media of fanbase to browbeat them into reaching for players that were not the highest rated players on their board when it came their turn to select -- specifically the WR and Safety positions. Only exception would be round 3 when WR Moncrief was on the board and they chose Gaines, but the choice of Gaines was directed at the biggest achilles heal over the 2nd half of the season -- pass defense -- so the choice of Gaines was understandable.
Yeah... I've gotta go with an A as well. We only had 6 picks and no 2nd rounder. I'm not as concerned about the Chiefs' WR position as the drive by "sport experts" who are grading the Chiefs nationally. Ford was a macro pick. We can't pay Hali AND Houston but we still need elite level pressure in our division. That pick allows us to sign Houston long-term. If for no other reason, Ford was a great pick. If Atlanta had been able to sway Philly for the #22 pick instead of Cleveland, they would have Ford and we would have Manziel or have traded back... I firmly believe. Ford would not have been available further back. Good pick.
Murray is an interesting pick and one that I think will pay dividends this summer. The Chiefs are going to be faced with something they haven't had... (EVER?) and that's QB depth. Alex Smith played better than expected last season, Daniel is making $3+m as a backup, Bray is 6'6 and has every measurable desired from a franchise QB, and then you've got your 5th round pick who seemingly fits perfectly into the Andy Reid system. Only 3 are making this team. There will be teams needing a backup or 3rd QB and will be looking at the Chiefs' surplus. If things go right, we could be looking at an additional draft pick in 2015 to go along with all the comp picks. Something to think about: The rumors are Mallet to the Texans. If that happens, Tyler Bray would be a perfect fit to follow Tom Brady... just saying.
Quoted for truth. They are all risks at some point, and all of them risk injury the first second of practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewschiefs
We'll get to grade them again at the end of preseason, regular season, and (hopefully) postseason.
Right now I'd give this grade a B-. Dorsey was dealt a crud hand and somehow managed to come out with something. There's a lot of GM's that wouldn't have been able to. Dee Ford is going to be fun to watch. The other fun part to watch will be all the speculation from fans/media/chiefs haters in contrast to the BS that Reid, Sutton & Dorsey will feed them to keep the guessing alive. Get ready to see Ford line up all over the place. Get ready to see Gaines speed get overlooked by opponents in a game, and then laugh as they pay for it. Get ready for the Bray/Murray speculations to heat up as Murray heals.
The big downside for me was weren't able to get any WR help. A big reason for this was the fact we didn't have a second round pick (Just sayin'...it would've been really nice to have a second round pick...) Alex Smith is worth it, but still...(*&^$!!. Moncrief was around in the third, but if Dorsey did what he said he'd do (BPA that fits the Chiefs) Gaines was a better value at CB than Moncrief was at WR.
Patriots wont trade for bray. They drafted a kid in the 2nd round as the future after brady.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaschief
Maybe houston will trade for one of our qbs.
I have no idea for a couple years.
It is too early to talk trades. They need to be evaluated and show cased to develop a market.Quote:
Originally Posted by jason1981
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bike
Too early to grade anything yet IMO. Gotta see how they pan out. As far as addressing needs if give it a B. Too early to grade the players as some probably haven't even put on a Chiefs uniform yet.
D- would have been fat ars For if nor for murray pick. Take Lee and would have been C
Pro_Angler.....You're are nothing if not reliable. :) Once we finally win a playoff game you will announce that it was pure damned luck. Give Reid and Dorsey some time. They are doing things right. Reid has good chemistry with the players as well as Dorsey. And Dorsey trusts Reid enough to take his opinions into account on every decision he makes. That is a recipe for success. Or anyway it's for sure 1,000,000,000 times better than Chiefs fans have seen since the Marty and Vermiel days. And both those guys were a long time ago.
We are going to win again! Reid is the new Stram and Dorsey will be with the team longer than Peterson was. I know you don't believe it, but the Chiefs are the new Splats. At least 3 AFC Championships in the next 10 years.
Another year or two and every team in the NFL is going to quake with fear when they see the Chiefs on their schedule.
I just don't understand the picks. We need wr and corners bad!! That's what killed us in playoffs. Not being able to play man coverage and jam receivers on the line. That's how Seattle killed denver. Jam the receivers and make him hold the ball more then 2.3 sec.
Bowe is a 2nd wr flat out. I think we would have taken cook but we got jumped over and lost him.
Lee is going to be Bowe 2.0 at best, probably closer to Baldwin. He was well known for making the circus catches but dropping the routine ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pro_Angler
I give it an A+++. Dee Ford will, even in part time play, get at least 11 sacks this year. He is the best pass rusher KC has ever drafted.
I surely hope you are right.
Um that pretty high praise there. Are you stating hes beet the derrick thomas?. And if you say yes then your word wont mean much cuz ford hasnt taken one snap yet so you cant accurately say he is the best. Maybe he has the potential though I dont know that but if so it would be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineup Dough
Wow better than D. Thomas and Jared Allen. Sweet. What a steal of a pick. I would have taken him 1st over all knowing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineup Dough
yea first post... figuresQuote:
Originally Posted by Lineup Dough
Hey! C'mon Angler! The guy is new and only has 8 posts and you're bashing him already? Give the guy a chance! We need more people posting here y'know.
Yeah, give the guy a chance. But, he is walking on sacred ground with that( "...best pass rusher KC has ever drafted...") crack.:sign0104::smile
Quite right! But I figure that even with that crack he's entitled to get his sea legs under him before we start blasting him. I mean, y'know....it would be more fun here if there were twice as many of us posting. Any new guy that turns into MMO/MMH well....we can take care of that. But let's at least give new guys a chance.
Most of the guys that post here regularly gave me a chance when I was new to ChiefsCrowd....even though I was an out-of-state Chiefs Fan. The more Chiefs fans we have the more fun we'll have. And if we get some bad apples we can take care of it.
And on that note......
Hey Lineup Dough.....WELCOME ABOARD! Glad you're here!!!
I think he meant this year lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AkChief49
Are you aware of the very, VERY large shoes you just put on the kid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineup Dough
No he is not yet! DT was and is the best KC drafted, be gone soon Lineup Dough, Chief fan? Well you are not or you are to young to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineup Dough
B+ / A-
I would have liked to have seen us pick up a WR but I'm satisfied with the choices that were made.