I'm eating it. Still rooting for the kid though. Not like he needed anymore motivation...
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I'm eating it. Still rooting for the kid though. Not like he needed anymore motivation...
Props to you for being about to do this.
I'm not going to root against him myself I don't dislike him I just never saw anything that made him THE GUY. I said all along there was no THE GUY in the draft. That's why I was opposed to all the talk that we HAD TO TAKE HIM.
Probably one of the best remaining values in the draft for sure. Way to wear the big boy pants, Ryfo. Wish we could've seen the same from myman.
And as as for everything else I said recently, chalk it up to a rough week. Some denial on my end, some stress, and a lot of piped up anger towards this organization that continually brings in other teams' unwanted quarterbacks.
Bravo for being a big man about it. He is still on the board, and we may be trading into the 2nd round ... maybe in the top 10 (Az?). So they may get him. Personally, I dont think we need him. I think Smith is going to be great with the pieces they have around him.
And I'll admit I think some of my response towards you was unfair frustration with MYMANHALI's actions. Tonight shows the difference between you to you show up like an adult he keeps on going on and on the same garbage over and over again adding nothing new. So I guess I should apologize for letting the frustration with Myman go towards you.:bananen_smilies046:
He wasn't "unwanted" by the 49ers. It's not a bad thing to find a QB that better suits your team. Alex Smith still had considerable value and if they couldn't get that value, they were probably going to keep him as a backup. The Chiefs and plenty of other teams had serious interest in Smith.
Would you consider Branden Albert "unwanted" by the Chiefs? I wouldn't. Nor would I consider him a "retread."
Thank you Ryfo, and sorry for all the harsh words & letting the frustration go with both barrels from my end & I understand the frustration on your end. You are quite right about better QB play being needed then what we've seen since Trent Green retired, but please, PLEASE understand that with that, better O-Line play is also needed than what we've seen since Roaf and Shields retired & Eric Fisher could very well turn out to be the most ferocious rookie that this team has seen in decades and this team's O-Line DESPERATELY needs that. It was said that during their private workout with Fisher, he hit O-Line Coach Eugene Chung so hard that he knocked all the air out of Chung -- that was coming from John Dorsey after they made the pick.
I love that this franchise has loaded up on the beef the last couple years.
Why eat crow? No one from this draft class has even played yet. Geno will probably go in the second round. A second round pick replaced our starting qb in SF.
UMMMMMM we did address the QB position. Maybe not with who you want but it has been addressed.
And you want us to wait and see how this draft class plays before judging but you refuse to give Alex the same in a whole new offense with a new head coach with a brand new group of talent around him. Can't have it both ways.
You made him out to be the clear cut next great QB. You talked over and over again about how great he was. If that position was correct then someone would have drafted him tonight. Clearly it wasn't. You can't admit you were wrong If he was as good as you have claimed he would have been drafted.
You're judgeing him on what he did for a different team with a different coach with different talent around him. Yesterday I listed how even hall of fame players struggled when the situation wasn't right for him. You CAN'T JUDGE what he's going to do with this offense this head coach and this talent around him before he's played with them. And besides that you dwell only on the bad. You don't give him any credit for the vast imporvement him made when he got a good head coach. You just say look at the bad he sucks when he won't be in that situation anymore. He won't be asked to do what he was with the 49ers anymore. Sorry but you can't judge his time with the Chiefs before it happens. That's just like judgeing Geno based on tonight. IT's just not fair to do so
Can we ban this troll yet?
Wrong about what? I will admit that I am wrong if they play and Geno isn't the best qb out of the class. When did we ever argue about where he was going to be drafted? The argument was always about what type of player he would be.
Alex Smith was drafted before Aaron rodgers, Aaron rodgers went all the way back to 24th. Who is the better qb?
Yep I did defend him and I still do to the extent that Romeo and Daboll were far more the problem then him.
But Alex Smith is not Matt Cassel And Alex Smith has done more then Matt Cassel has in the NFL Alex doesn't deserve to be judged on what Matt Cassel did or did not do. Alex Smith is Alex Smith and to judge him as a Chief before he plays one down in KC is like judgeing Geno right now. You can't do it and be fair
Call me crazy but I don't rember you really being in front of Crennel. In fact I remember being in back in forths with you where you were saying "if we had a QB" and I was the one talking about the coaching.
Oh and the famous Mccluster wasn't going to play
Geno being the cant miss number 1 pick
Like it or not you have been wrong my man
When did you call out the previous regime? You were a believer, I wasn't. You have to admit I have been right about A TON of things, even matthewschiefs would agree to that.
But I am going to ease up, I said I would be back when the season started and I did. Now I will be back when the first preseason game starts.
You were wrong about this team being stupid for not taking him. Unless you're going to say Every team in the NFL is stupid and you no better then every GM in the NFL since everyone said no thanks to him. Man up my man it's ok no one's perfect you were wrong about just how good Geno was at West virgina. If he was as good as you claimed he was someone would have taken him.
I was the lone voice of opposition on this site the day Pioli was mentioned in connection with this franchise and held that position throughout.
Go do your homework. It's all logged away. You want to know my position, go find it. I'm not doing your work for you or going to sit here and try to prove something to you. Your player evaluations are a joke and tonight only reaffirmed that.
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I really don't think he's a troll just a guy who's a little full of himself.
I will give you your due My man you have been right about things.
But you have been wrong as well you don't have a clean tracrecord here.
1. Mccluster "won't Play" WRONG 2nd leading WR on this team last year
2. Blair white a house hold name WRONG You said this talking about Peyton Manning and how great he is. Do I really need to bother.
3. Geno Smith being the clear choice at 1 overall WRONG 2nd round pick at best
4. At first you were happy with this management now your craping on them so either way at one point you're wrong
5. Teams don't win superbowls drafting OTs WRONG 97 rams did draft a OT first overall and won the superbowl shortly there after
6. Kyle Orton led us to our biggest win in 20 years WRONG Call me crazy but I call a win that clinches a playoff birth a bigger win then a win that kept us in the hunt
You're hardly batting 1000 yourself bud it's ok to admit it I can I have been wrong about things myself regarding this team. I have the balls to admit it.
An example of how mentally tough Geno Smith is ... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ack-on-friday/
He is taking his ball and going home.
Bro did you see the reaction by Geno. Like I said at a Super Bowl part I was at, Jake spavital said he needed to be baby sat and was in no way gonna be a first round choice. Looks like his QB coach was right. Dudes got talent but can't handle when things don't go his way. Last night was proof and his cry baby pouty antics is exactly why he didn't go. I imagine the dude did a very poor job in the interview process.
And actually my favorite thing about geno was in an interview on espn he called himself a reserved guy and all I could think about was him standing on a bench acting a fool in Texas. Tape doesn't lie.