Game 4.....How is OUR Smith doing?

Been a lot of talk about Alex Smith here on Chiefscrowd since we traded for him.

Some say we paid WAAAY too much for him.

Some say he is Matt Cassel 1.2

Some say he is a "good game manager".

But I think it is only right that until we finally reach a consensus about him that we disect his play in every game until we reach an overwhelming conclusion.

So here are my thoughts after game 4.......

24-41. 58.54%

Net passing yards........288

Yards per attempt..........7.02

Yards per completion.........12

Interceptions....................2....(One was a fluke bounce off DB's foot).

Sacked........................1......0 yards lost.

Touchdowns...................3

Cumulative for the season.......

88-146. 60.3%

Net passing yards........957

Yards per attempt..........6.55

Yards per completion.........10.87

Interceptions....................2....(One was a fluke bounce off DB's foot).

Sacked........................11......51 yards lost.

Touchdowns...................7


Them's the numbers. Here's what I think.......

Alex Smith is a good QB. Give him a great team and you will go a long way. And he had an exceptional day today. I mean really....41 passes and he only got sacked once? That's GREAT! Yes, he had 2 INTs, but one of them was in no way his fault. Just a fluke series of bounces.

And yet again he was a true CLUTCH quarterback. When the game was on the line, yet again he put together a long, time consuming drive plus another 5 minute drive to lock the game up.

He may not be a star. Maybe he is or can be. Time will tell. But IMO today was his best performance ever as a Chief. He threw mostly short but also got some important completions downfield. Maybe he won't win you a whole lot of games on his own but he won't lose you any games. And I am no longer convinced he can't win games on his own. All he seems to need is 1 receiver with a hot hand and he just gets us ahead and puts the game away when it needs doing. That is starting to smell a lot like a GREAT quarterback

So what does everybody else think????

22-6 as a starter since 2011 and 4-0 as a Chief. That's all I need to know. You win, I'm on board... you lose, I've got questions.

Neither int was his fault. Bowe quot on his route and was suppose to fight for inaide position amd alex thew it where bowe was suppose to be at. And the second one was a bad bounce. sometimes I think wr shoukd he credited for int's. But smith is plwying lights out. Even went down field today.

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Originally Posted by texaschief

22-6 as a starter since 2011 and 4-0 as a Chief. That's all I need to know. You win, I'm on board... you lose, I've got questions.

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...THIS!

Makes very few mistakes and does not, for the most part, turn the ball over.

Alex Smith has been progressing ever since the start of the 2011 season and just seems to be getting better as time goes on. The cost of two 2nd round picks to get Alex seemed steep on the surface, but consider the Raiders trading a 1st and two 2nd rounders to get Carson Palmer, who only lasted 1 1/2 seasons in Oakland & it looks like getting Alex was dirt cheap by comparison. Plus, all they did was pick up Alex's current contract which goes through 2014 and it's very reasonable & Alex has beaten 3 QB's already this year that are getting paid more than he is.

Thus far, bringing in Alex Smith to be the Chiefs QB has proved to be the right move. And yes, he has carried the team when they've needed him to & has already made more clutch 3rd down plays than Cassel did in 4 years. He was much maligned because of circumstances which were not any fault of his.

I watched him play against the Chiefs at Arrowhead on Sept. 26, 2010 & reviewed that game many times via NFL Game Rewind and Alex Smith was not the reason the 49ers lost. He had no support from the rest of his team, but in spite of a hopeless situation, he never quit or got flustered.

The Chiefs were awful lucky to be able to acquire Alex Smith...........cut and dried.

Beginning to look like I don't need to do this thread every week any more! The question seems to have answered itself.

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Originally Posted by jason1981

Neither int was his fault. Bowe quot on his route and was suppose to fight for inaide position amd alex thew it where bowe was suppose to be at. And the second one was a bad bounce. sometimes I think wr shoukd he credited for int's. But smith is plwying lights out. Even went down field today.

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I can't blame Bowe. I think that pass was just a bad pass. It was right on the money but the Corner had better position.

That being said, I saw a lot of balls hit receivers in the hands or chest and dropped. D. Avery dropped numerous passes that he should have caught. Charles dropped a few passes he should have held on to. It is not a coincidence that Sean McGrath became a facorite target. He caught everything thrown at him including the TD that Alex zipped in there pretty quickly. I think Alex is a very accurate QB and as this offense gels you will see him challenge the field more but for right now he is doing what he needs. Don't turn it over and take what is given.

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Originally Posted by Seek

I can't blame Bowe. I think that pass was just a bad pass. It was right on the money but the Corner had better position.

That being said, I saw a lot of balls hit receivers in the hands or chest and dropped. D. Avery dropped numerous passes that he should have caught. Charles dropped a few passes he should have held on to. It is not a coincidence that Sean McGrath became a facorite target. He caught everything thrown at him including the TD that Alex zipped in there pretty quickly. I think Alex is a very accurate QB and as this offense gels you will see him challenge the field more but for right now he is doing what he needs. Don't turn it over and take what is given.

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I think you have really hit the nail on the head. Before the season we all talked about how it would take a while for a new offense, new coach and new Quarterback to "gel" and I still think that is the case. IMO our offense is still very much a work in progress. Which I find very encouraging. If as Reid said last week "We still have a long way to go" then we could be looking at a real powerhouse team down the road.

looked good to me yesterday. maybe he's clickin' ???

They did a better job of converting 3rd down into 1st, as they were 9/16 yesterday. Hope they continue to improve in that area.

If the teams we've played keep losing we are going to have another 2010 arguement on our hands.

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Originally Posted by kcvet

looked good to me yesterday. maybe he's clickin' ???

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I certainly think he is getting his balance, but I don't think we have seen the best of Alex Smith yet. Better days to come I suspect.

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Originally Posted by doobs_05

If the teams we've played keep losing we are going to have another 2010 arguement on our hands.

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Perhaps so, but this years squad is not a Cinderella team like the 2010 squad was. Plus, the schedule is going to get tougher from here on out. In 2010, the Chiefs did not beat a single team that came into those games with a .500 record or better. This year, the Cowboys were 1-0, and the Eagles 1-1, coming into those games. Titans are 3-1 heading into this Sundays game & the Chiefs will get severely tested in this contest.

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Originally Posted by doobs_05

If the teams we've played keep losing we are going to have another 2010 arguement on our hands.

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The teams we are playing certainly are losing. The Cowgirls lead the NFC East at 2-2. But we must take into account that a lot of the losses the NFC East are taking are because they are playing the AFC West. As a division, the NFC East has lost 12 games (Giants 4; Dallas 2; Washington 3; Philly 3). Of those 11 losses, 7 (58.3%) have been at the hands of the AFC West.

The AFC West is turning out to be a stronger division that anyone expected.

Besides....should the Chiefs make it to the playoffs this year the only people saying it is because we played an easy schedule against crappy teams will be MMO/MMH.

or just stronger than the NFC East, chargers only win is against nfc east, and oaklands only win came from Jacksonville.

True. But y'know......we're winning and I'm enjoying it! I don't care if we win "pretty" or "ugly", I don't care if we win big or small, I don't care if we win by offense, defense or special teams, I don't care if we win by dink and dunk or by the long ball, I don't care if we win with 10 field goals every game, I don't care if we win because of 5 pic-6s....all I care about is winning!!!!

GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!

Smith likes to use his TE's, lets give him an early Christmas present and get him some healthy TE's

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Originally Posted by rodu

Smith likes to use his TE's, lets give him an early Christmas present and get him some healthy TE's

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If only there was a REALLY good TE who played on a team that was like, oh, I don't know... 1-3 AND had ties to the Kansas City Chiefs...

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Originally Posted by texaschief

If only there was a REALLY good TE who played on a team that was like, oh, I don't know... 1-3 AND had ties to the Kansas City Chiefs...

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What a thought! I wonder if he would come back? He's not going to get that ring he wanted with Atlanta and I doubt he'd get it here this year, but maybe....just maybe......Sure would be nice to see him retire as a Chief....where he belongs.

Alex Smith is everything the Chiefs needed. He's careful with the ball he makes good throws and when things are not going well and he is getting rushed on every drop back he doesn't panic and try to throw the ball somewhere he shouldn't. He is just what the doctor ordered. That's why I was so against drafting a QB in a weak QB class. Rookie QB for the most part do one thing Turn the ball over. This wasn't a team that needed a full rebuild. It needed a actual coaching staff and a good solid QB. That's what they went out and got. And they are winning because of it.

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Originally Posted by matthewschiefs

Alex Smith is everything the Chiefs needed. He's careful with the ball he makes good throws and when things are not going well and he is getting rushed on every drop back he doesn't panic and try to throw the ball somewhere he shouldn't. He is just what the doctor ordered. That's why I was so against drafting a QB in a weak QB class. Rookie QB for the most part do one thing Turn the ball over. This wasn't a team that needed a full rebuild. It needed a actual coaching staff and a good solid QB. That's what they went out and got. And they are winning because of it.

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Wish I could have given you 5 thumbs up for that one!

We'd have a hell of a shot if Tony G. came to help. When's the trade deadline?

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Originally Posted by Justin5772002

We'd have a hell of a shot if Tony G. came to help. When's the trade deadline?

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Dunno about the trade deadline, but I suspect we don't have the kind of cap space we would need to get him even if Atlanta was willing to deal. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...ng_smiley2.gif

A fun fantasy though.......

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Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan

Dunno about the trade deadline, but I suspect we don't have the kind of cap space we would need to get him even if Atlanta was willing to deal. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...ng_smiley2.gif

A fun fantasy though.......

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We don't have the cap space to pay him unless we get rid of someone really good. I can't think of a deal that the Falcons would go for. Who would you trade for him? Jamaal Charles? They need help on defense. Would you trade Hali or Flowers for Tony? That's what it would take. They might go for both Houston AND Poe, but that still wouldn't give us enough cap space.

I'd love to have him back, but he only has a year or two left and besides, we are winning without him. We are trying to build to be a powerhouse for the long haul. Our offense will continue to get better and even more so when we get Fasano and Kelce back. Next year, if we still see a need, we can address it in the draft or free agency. That makes more sense to me.

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Originally Posted by TopekaRoy

We don't have the cap space to pay him unless we get rid of someone really good. I can't think of a deal that the Falcons would go for. Who would you trade for him? Jamaal Charles? They need help on defense. Would you trade Hali or Flowers for Tony? That's what it would take. They might go for both Houston AND Poe, but that still wouldn't give us enough cap space.

I'd love to have him back, but he only has a year or two left and besides, we are winning without him. We are trying to build to be a powerhouse for the long haul. Our offense will continue to get better and even more so when we get Fasano and Kelce back. Next year, if we still see a need, we can address it in the draft or free agency. That makes more sense to me.

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Like we we did this year? Lol

^^ As much as I liked Tony G., the fact of the matter is that his time has passed. That chapter was closed in 2009 and it did not end well with Pioli using the draft pick we got for him on Arenas, who I did not think was any better than a 4th rounder.

Tony G. is never going to happen.

I just don't see Tony G. coming back. Too many other teams with more cap space would love to have him. With that being said I'll always remember him as a Chief.

Everybody is correct of course. TG won't be back. But thinking/talking about it is sort of like buying a Powerball ticket....you know you are not going to win, but it's still fun to dream.

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Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan

What a thought! I wonder if he would come back? He's not going to get that ring he wanted with Atlanta and I doubt he'd get it here this year, but maybe....just maybe......Sure would be nice to see him retire as a Chief....where he belongs.

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he will retire as a Chief

Once Fasano and Kelce come back with McGrath as a third TE that is some nice tools for Smith.