Plain and simple....is he or isnt he worth the no.3 overall pick in the upcming 2009 nfl draft...
i would rather have Maualuga at 12-15
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Plain and simple....is he or isnt he worth the no.3 overall pick in the upcming 2009 nfl draft...
i would rather have Maualuga at 12-15
YES, but I would rather take Maualuga over Curry SOOO I guess you could say BOTH Curry and Maualuga are worth the 3rd overall pick.
I am with you on trading down and still getting Maualuga, but I might wanna do it with say the Jags or a team closer to 10th. I just think Maualuga will go no later then 12th and I would hate to take a chance hehehe. PLUS in a lot of Mocks they have the Jags taking a LT SOO maybe they would want to trade up to get one of the 3 stud LT's /shrug
I think Curry could be worth the third overall. However, my question on the guy is his speed. Everyone talks about Maualuga having great sideline to sideline speed. I do not hear that so much about Curry. I hear he is a playmaker, but if he does not have the speed, then third may be a little high for him. That is my assessment on him. As far as the rest of Curry's game, he looks great. Good tackling, coverage, skill/talent, reaction. All good.
I would rather have Curry over Maualuga... I am reluctant to draft another player who looks like a stud with a defense full of studs. The question then becomes does he make the player around him better or are they making him look better. Such was the case with Ryan Sims, Tank Tyler, and possibly Dorsey.
It is more obvious that Curry is making the plays with less help that Maualuga.
That being said, I think O line is better and I wouldn't take either using the 3rd.
Aaron Curry
Height: 6-3. Weight: 241.
Projected Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Rey Maualuga
Height: 6-3. Weight: 254.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
James Laurinaitis
Height: 6-3. Weight: 243.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
These are the Top three LB's in the draft. As you can see Maualuga has the size NOW for the NFL while the others could use a few pounds to play middle.
BUT with that size Rey looses some speed as you can see the other two guys are about the same.
Some people say Curry could play MLB in the NFL, but I really think he is a true OLB from watching him play and his size. We need a MLB more then a OLB and I feel Maualuga would give us the better value in player vs need.
Plain and simple . . . NO!
I like Curry, but 3 is way to high to pick a LB. When was the last time one was taken in the top-5? LeVar Arrington?
We need LBs very desperately, but we need a lot of things desperately. Almost no LB is worth the high salary associated with a top-5 pick. I'd rather take a chance on Orakpo than draft Curry.
We should just play it safe, get a great LT, and try to fix our LB problems through FA or in the later rounds.
That is a gamble. Take a guy like Orapko that is a gamble at DE and pay him Top 3 money. Or get a LB like Curry that will is much more likely to succeed. I understand the dilemna, but I think I would rather pass on a project like Orapko or a QB to get an almost sure thing like another OL or LB. But I'm sure I will change my mind about 20 times between now and draft day.
This is another very big draft for the Chiefs. I really wish they could trade down, that would make things so much easier for the Chiefs.
Some say that they have heard legends of all-pro DE's being drafted in the fourth round...
I kid I kid!
Really though, I have a feeling we will end up trading down.. that is if someone is willing~
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I keep asking this last year when everyone said we need to trade our first pick, who is our dancing pardner going to be, it takes someone that wants someone that high in the draft that will not be there later. Say someone wants a player that they feel will be taken by the team picking 12th they will try to trade up to around 10 to get their man before the team picking 12 they will not trade up to 3 to get him.
So what has to happen for us to be able to trade is someone has to be there that someone else wants that high maybe and OL this year is about the only thing I can see with the exeption of Crabtree if someone is in love with him and think he is the next coming of Jerry Rice. A lot will depend who Detroit and St Louis takes.
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I think I would take Rey at 3 because that is a position we need to address. Tell me a team that wouldnt take mirriman at 3 right now. I think in my opinion Rey can be that kind of impact player. Also hope Raiders dont get Crabtree. Hate to have to cover him twice a year.
I dont get you guys? Have you seen Curry? If you havent, visit youtube for a while and get back to me. Maualuga over Curry? Mike Mayock would slap you silly. Aaron Curry is the second best all around player in the draft and #3 is far away. After the combine, this guy will have as much hype as anybody drafted in recent years. YOU would love to have Curry, YOU just dont know it.
Thought you might enjoy this article and explanation on why Aaron Curry won't be a Top 3 pick.
http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftpicks.php
For the Raiders to get Crabtree, he will have to slip past Seattle. Almost everyone predicts Seattle will take Crabtree, which means if Oakland wants Crabtree, they'll have to trade up. And since we are right before Seattle, we would be the likely candidate.
Will that actually happen? Probably not. It would be smart to move down a few, grab a few extra picks, but many people speculate whether the Chiefs would make deals with Oakland. The way I see it, if Jamarcus Russell is the one that has to the throw the ball to Crabtree, then we have nothing to worry about. While Al Davis is known for taking the freak athlete in the draft, he has not drafted a receiver in the first round since Tim Brown in 1988. So you have to wonder what he will do this season. I've heard some talk about how he is interested in Crabtree to help the development and production of Jarmarcus Russell.
This is the only team I see the Chiefs being able to trade with. Take it however you want.
Excellent post. I think the Chiefs would make a deal with Oakland if it was fair. Especially considering the money Hunt could save by not having to pick at #3.
I also think that the Bears could be in the market for Crabtree. I have not read it anywhere, but it makes sense IMO. This is a make or break year for Kyle Orton. Their defense isn't getting any younger. I'd take Crabtree over Brandon Lloyd or Rashied Davis any day of the week. I think most Bears fans would love that pick. If they could bring in a big time receiver like Crabtree to pair up with the rapidly improving RB Matt Forte, then Kyle Orton has every chance to succeed. Especially with the defense they have.
I know most people probably disagree with me, but I do think Curry is a better overall LB than Maualuga. He is not as tenacious nor does he have the killer instinct that Rey has, but he is certainly quicker, faster, better at reading the pass, and a better pass rusher. The latter is the main reason I consider him a better fit for the Chiefs.
Maualuga is going to be a very good linebacker in the NFL. I'm just not so sure he'll be an every down LB, whereas I think Curry will be.
Even if we can't trade down I still say we should take Rey. I think he will do nothing but get better. Would not be upset with Curry, but Maualuga woul dbe my number 1.
Maualuga will go 3rd to us
You cannot teach someone to have that killer instinct, you either do or dont. The rest of the stuff (except for maybe speed) SHOULD be improved with a good Defensive coaching staff (which we havent had for awhile) or some veteran mentorship.
That being said, do you want the player that has great skills right now ... or the player that has the great drive and attitude and will become a great player in a year or two. Its a tough decision.
Pioli and Bilicheck built the Patriots from the inside out. I would expect him to solidfy the lines with the 3rd round pick, since it is much harder to find good Offensive lineman.
Historically, the Patriots drafted Oline and d-line and then signed their Line backers through Free agency or later in the draft.
If the Chiefs are to draft a LB at the #3 spot he needs to develop into an elite athlete in the molds of R.Lewis, B.Urlacher, otherwise he'll be considered only adequate or a bust. Curry, Maualuga and Laurinaitis all could be considered but fit better as a mid-1st to early-2nd round picks. Unless we pick up leadership through free-agency my main quality I would choose to separate these three would be their leadership potential, something we are sorely lacking on D.
There are a few free agents worth looking at. I know Jonathan Vilma is a name I like to throw at people. He is slightly smaller for a middle linebacker but plays great. He is a sure tackler, great in pass coverage, and has great speed for a linebacker. I think the Chiefs could bring him in and he could become the leader of this defense.
I was hoping that Terrell Suggs would become a free agent, but it looks like he wants to return to Baltimore. Oh well. He would have been a good motivational leader, plus, the guy has a high motor.
The problem with this response is that you mentioned Maualuga and Laurinaitis in the same sentence as Curry. I will say it again. I dont think you understand! Curry is the second best all around player in this draft the other linebackers are just some good linebackers.
Curry is a beast. He is good and very well worth the #3 pick if we keep it. He has great size and strength. He has that killer LB instinct. He is a leader and will be a very good player whoever he goes too.
I just want to know what defensive scheme we will be running next year. He is not much for defending the pass.
Yes. He is worth it. But will we keep the #3 pick? Stay tuned...lol
Curry would be my choice right now. Would also be happy with a DE; it sounds like Brown is a better pass rusher than Orakpo if we go that route. I think either would be a stretch with the 3rd pick. Would also be happy with an OT; my pick there would be Monroe, Alberts buddy from Virginia. I'd stay away from Stafford or Sanchez, we have bigger problems than QB. I wouldn't mind if we could maybe grab Bomar in the third round or something. I'm not sure he'll be there in round three.
However, Pioli was part of a Patriots team that was very active in FA. I think Hunt will bend to what Pioli wants. Pioli will not take the has-been FAs that Carl did. Plus, there are many young FAs worth taking this season. This should be a fun one. Put that with the drafted players, I'm excited to see the kind of turn around we have this season.
I know this probably won't be the most popular thing I have ever said, but if we could get Ray Lewis for a decent price, let's get him. He's still decent and I would love for him to instill his intensity into the rest of the defense. I keep thinkin back to '03 when we had Maslowski and the "bend but don't break" defense. He wasn't the greatest but he brought an intensity to the defense the they rallied around. When he went down with an injury the defense really faltered.
Ray Lewis isn't a terrible idea from a pure talent perspective. But (1) he'd be too expensive for what would be a 2-3 year rental; and (2) he probably wouldn't sign here - he wants a SB, now.
Frankly, we could get Mike Peterson at a fraction of the price, avoid the headaches, and get roughly the same production if we're looking for a veteran presence on the defense.