I have the Chiefs selecting in the first round:
Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
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I have the Chiefs selecting in the first round:
Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
to see the rest of my mock, please visit: draftking.blogspot.com
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I really don't have a problem with Monroe at #3. I know everyone has him as the 3rd best OT in the draft, but he seems the safest pick to me. Only for the fact that we have some sort of reference with Albert. If he was good enough to supplant Albert at LT, he's good enough to do it again. Plus, that would add some chemistry to the OL with his relationship already established with Albert. I think the relationship he already has with Albert might make up the difference between he and Oher or Smith.
Plus offensive line is usually the safest pick and its a pick that will immediately help a franchise.
Except when my Bills drafted T Mike Williams from Texas with the number four overall selection and he maybe saw the field from, well his TV set
I just hate the idea of ruining the value we got in Albert. That's really the biggest problem I have with taking an OT at #3. While it would fill a need by sliding Albert into a Guard position, we could fill that role by sliding Niswanger over and/or taking a center or guard later in the draft.
If you are saying that he's the 3rd best OT in the draft is he worth the huge contract he is gonna get. That's why I think its imperative we draft the best player available, would hate to see all that money go to the 3rd best when it should go to the best player we could get at that moment.
IMO, draft Crabtree and then trade him.
Albert would not lose value. Sure, he will not be a LT, the premiere player on the O-line, but many offensive lines in the NFL have more than one player from the first round.
If you do not want Albert to lose value, then he could be moved to RT. I am confident he could handle the position and having two premiere tackles will make the line great for the next 10 years.
So the real question about the draft is who can handle a position for the season, to either prove to be a starter or until next year to replace them. Thigpen has earned a chance to start at QB for next season, but that does not make him our franchise QB. Niswanger has done good for the OC. I am not sure moving him to RG will work, but is that the chance we should take. Can Demarrio Williams, DJ, Donnie Edwards (if he does not retire), and Rocky Boiman handle the LB positions for next season?
I am not going to consider DE because I am almost for sure that will be taken care of through FA.
I don't think we would see a Rivers/Eli Manning trade ordeal here. If the Chiefs were to draft Crabtree I feel as if they would use him opposite Dwayne Bowe (outstanding pick btw, I really liked him coming out 2 years ago). The Chiefs could always then trade down if another team felt Crabtree would be picked up by another team in the top 7.
But, I don't do trade scenarios in my mock =/
Okay, thanks! =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefster
Just trying to receive input from other teams' fans
It was a tough year for Dorsey, but the development of DT takes two to three years. I still like Dorsey and give him time to prove himself.
Other than Monroe or Oher, both look like solid all-around LT, then I guess the Chiefs go Aaron Curry or possibly Rey Maualuga. I like Curry, he has a ton of potential, and I would put him in front of Rey. But I do not know how you feel on those two, but it would probably be that, if they cannot trade down and take one of them (I know that no team would be crazy enough to trade that high).
I think that Orakpo and Michael Johnson have the potential to be great in the NFL, but maybe not worthy of the third spot.
Stafford...I don't know. I'm still on the fence if the Chiefs should take a QB. I like Thigpen, knowing that he may not be the franchise QB, but he can handle the position at least for one season, which I think he deserves.
Stafford doesn't drop to Seattle, and the Lions don't pass on Stafford because Culpeper has a two-year deal. If the Lions pass (for whatever reason) the Rams will scoop him up as Bulger's replacement.
No offense, but your whole top-10 is off.
You have:
1. Detroit: Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
2. St. Louis: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
3. Kansas City: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
4. Seattle: Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia
5. Cleveland: Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
6. Cincinnati: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
7. Oakland: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
8. Jacksonville: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
9. Green Bay: Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
10. San Francisco: B.J. Rahji, DT, Boston College
It will go:
1. Detroit: Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia
2. St. Louis: Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
3. Kansas City: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
4. Seattle: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
5. Cleveland: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
6. Cincinnati: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
7. Oakland: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
8. Jacksonville: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
9. Green Bay: Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
10. San Francisco: Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
Detroit will get its QB of the future. St. Louis and KC will fix their OLs. Seattle will get a badly needed WR and wait until next year to draft a QBOTF. Cleveland badly needs CB and Jenkins is the best on the board (and no way he drops to 23 - GB will pick him if Cleveland doesn't). Cinci will both pick the best defensive player on the board. Oakland will beef up its terrible pass rush. Jacksonville will begin rebuilding its awful OL. Green Bay will get Curry as a gift. And San Fran already whiffed on a DT last year (Balmer) and will instead get a legitimate pass rusher opposite Smith.
You have Mack way too high and Laurinaitis way too low as well. No one's drafting a C in the top-15.
EDIT: And if Bradford comes out, put him in pen for the Jets.
Here is my topic over at Detroit
http://www.detroitlionsforum.com/for...ead.php?t=3616
They concur with me with the LT pick being the number one overall. The beauty of the draft is that no one knows exactly how it will go. It's like March Madness!
The Lions would pick LT first if (1) they were just another bad team; (2) they had anyone to play QB next year; (3) they didn't spend a 1st rounder on LT last year; and (4) they didn't need to signal a change in direction of the franchise.
The Lions are the worst team in history and have no one to start at QB next year worth anything. To keep the fanbase, they are going to pick a QB as the new face of the franchise.
Whether this is right or wrong, it's what they'll do.
Cherilus was actually benched this season even at RT, if I remember correctly. He was drafted to be a LT but didn't quite work out.
I agree that the Lions need a stud LT right now.
They also need someone to throw the ball and a new face of the franchise.
The Lions will have an empty stadium next year if they start Culpeper or Orlovsky. Neither of those guys could throw for 2,000 yards behind the 2003 Chiefs OL.
Trust me, unless the Lions somehow land a decent FA QB in Kurt Warner, Jeff Garcia, or Matt Cassel - and I don't think they will - they are taking a QB with the first pick. Not because of the on field product necessarily, but because the fan base needs a reason to hope next year will be different.
The Lions will try to fix their OL in FA and in the later parts of the draft.
I say crabtree 1st if not there for some fluke reason then a QB to develope under Thigpen and release croyle or huard perferably Croyle.
Only two rebuilding teams, to my memory, have successfully drafted a WR high (in the top 15) in the past ten years (Andre Johnson to Houston and Fitzgerald to the Cards). It's ranged from OK to disasterous every other time. Some like Moss and Braylon Edwards provide massive distractions and demand trades. Others (see: Lions) just never pan out.
WR is a luxury pick. Good teams rarely pick them in the first round (Colts excepted, but they draft better than any other team in existence in the later rounds). Those that do usually regret it.
Am I the only one that thinks giving the 3rd bast OT in the draft isn't worth the money we are gonna have to spend on him.
I agree with JM twice in one day (Im not sure if Im feeling OK) Although I do think that Calvin will become an unstoppable force and he almost is already. I agree that you can draft whoever you want, but if your lines arent good, then you might as well stay home on Sunday.
I think it still all depends on what free agents we secure. The fact that Crabtree was so spectacular as a sophomore really helps the Chiefs not get cornered into ONLY a LT or QB. That COULD also help the Chiefs trade down.
Very true. Because when you look at the teams looking into Crabtree, Seattle is the top candidate. However, i read today that Oakland and Al Davis may be looking to Crabtree to help out Russell. I know that Davis has a history of picking the freak athlete, but usually skips on the receiver. However, with Crabtree's skill and ability combined with Russell, Davis may go for it this time.
Haha, interesting. I doubt they would trade their first round and Asomugha. If so, Al, thank you.
Malcolm Jenkins is a great athlete. I would love him on the Chiefs. But I still say Aaron Curry. That is a real hard choice. But if we go after Jenkins, maybe we can trade down again with the Browns because they really want him.
Part of the reason they cut DeAngelo Hall, other than he sucks, is that they needed the cap room to try to sign Asomugha. But Davis will at least hit him with the franchise tag since there was no clause last season that they couldn't.
If they do lose Aso though, that would ruin our plan to trade down.
I know that you are not alone.
The fact that there are three OTs being ranked that high is evidence of the lack of value at other positions in this draft.
And it shows that NFL coaches are starting to understand the importance of having better O-linemen.
Also, getting the third OT pick does not mean getting the third best OT.
I can't see the organization taking, what they perceive to be, the third best OT in the draft, with the third overall pick.
Agreed.
I was wondering if someone else had taken over your keyboard.
Ditto. What this team needs, as of right now, may not be the same as what it needs, when the draft arrives.
michael crabtree