dwayne bowe and chiefs currantly negotiating

Earlier on Thursday, we asked if Dwayne Bowe would be the best wide receiver available in free agency this offseason. Perhaps he won't even become available after all.
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Ian Rapoport reported Thursday night on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access" that the Kansas City Chiefs are actively pursuing a new contract with Bowe, according to sources close to the situation. Bowe's representatives have met with the Chiefs, and Rapoport expects conversations to continue in the coming weeks.
This is a bit of a surprise, but perhaps it shouldn't be. This is a brand new Chiefs regime that clearly could view Bowe in a different light than former general manager Scott Pioli, who didn't appear willing to give Bowe the long-term deal that he wanted. Rapoport reports that Andy Reid was very high on Bowe coming out of LSU.
The Chiefs need a ton of help on offense, notably at quarterback and wide receiver. Their passing game practically is starting from scratch. Perhaps Reid's first big purchase as Chiefs coach will be a very familiar name.
UPDATE: Rapoport also reported Thursday that in addiition to Bowe, the Chiefs would like to bring back offensive tackle Branden Albert. The Chiefs have talked with his representatives and should be able to sign both players, according to Rapoport.

would be a great move to sign bowe then franchise albert, draft ej manuel in the 3rd round, and trade for foles(for a 3rd rounder comp pick). then swap first round picks possibly with philly to draft the top cb (receive a 4th rounder), take d/e in the 2nd , let dorsey walk,sign jeryius bird in free agency.

Re-signing Bowe AND Albert will take up a ton of cap space. To get both AND a big free agent name, they're going to need to cut or restructure Tyson Jackson. Trading down from #1 to #4 would require the Eagles give up a 2nd round pick. I like the idea of trading down and gaining extra compensation. Wonder if swapping firsts with Philly would be enough to get Foles. But what would Philly be targeting at #1 overall for them to make that move? The Chiefs have probably the most undesirable #1 overall pick in the history of the league.

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Originally Posted by texaschief

Re-signing Bowe AND Albert will take up a ton of cap space. To get both AND a big free agent name, they're going to need to cut or restructure Tyson Jackson. Trading down from #1 to #4 would require the Eagles give up a 2nd round pick. I like the idea of trading down and gaining extra compensation. Wonder if swapping firsts with Philly would be enough to get Foles. But what would Philly be targeting at #1 overall for them to make that move? The Chiefs have probably the most undesirable #1 overall pick in the history of the league.

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Yeah they definately have to do something with Jackson's contract. Either restructure it or flat out cut him.

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Originally Posted by texaschief

The Chiefs have probably the most undesirable #1 overall pick in the history of the league.

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LMAO!! wait wait wait.... Are you REALLY trying to dog my post with a Star Trek gif.??? bwahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa I figured Australia would be over Star Trek by now. Didn't realize y'all were so behind that the show is still "cool" down there. LMAO!!

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LMAO!! wait wait wait.... Are you REALLY trying to dog my post with a Star Trek gif.??? bwahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa I figured Australia would be over Star Trek by now. Didn't realize y'all were so behind that the show is still "cool" down there. LMAO!!

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Not really. The point was the facepalm.....

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Originally Posted by texaschief

Re-signing Bowe AND Albert will take up a ton of cap space. To get both AND a big free agent name, they're going to need to cut or restructure Tyson Jackson. Trading down from #1 to #4 would require the Eagles give up a 2nd round pick. I like the idea of trading down and gaining extra compensation. Wonder if swapping firsts with Philly would be enough to get Foles. But what would Philly be targeting at #1 overall for them to make that move? The Chiefs have probably the most undesirable #1 overall pick in the history of the league.

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I love the idea of swapping first round picks for an existing QB! I have to imagine that would be attractive to a team that has QB talent on the bench. Foles, alex Smith, Orton, Flynn, etc. Then we would have a QB, still have a 1st rd pick, and could probably grab a young QB in the 2nd rd.

I like this idea much more than drafting LT #1 and then drafting whatever QB is left in the 2nd rd.

taking the LT pick out of the equation may give us a tradeable pick to philly

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More on #Chiefs: Along with Bowe, KC would also like OT Branden Albert back. They've talked with his reps, too. Yes, they can sign both.

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Originally Posted by texaschief

Re-signing Bowe AND Albert will take up a ton of cap space. To get both AND a big free agent name, they're going to need to cut or restructure Tyson Jackson. Trading down from #1 to #4 would require the Eagles give up a 2nd round pick. I like the idea of trading down and gaining extra compensation. Wonder if swapping firsts with Philly would be enough to get Foles. But what would Philly be targeting at #1 overall for them to make that move? The Chiefs have probably the most undesirable #1 overall pick in the history of the league.

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taking ton of cap space have you looked at our cap we have more than enough to make this happen

Just because we have $20 million cap space doesn't mean we have to spend it on two guys that is 1/6 of the total cap for 2 out of 53 players and yes they are both wanting that kind of money from what I hear they both want to be paid as a top 5 player at their position.

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Originally Posted by N TX Dave

Just because we have $20 million cap space doesn't mean we have to spend it on two guys that is 1/6 of the total cap for 2 out of 53 players and yes they are both wanting that kind of money from what I hear they both want to be paid as a top 5 player at their position.

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Bowe probably is a top 5 guy, or atleast close to it.

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Bowe probably is a top 5 guy, or atleast close to it.

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If you are talking in DROPS I would agree. lol couldn't resist.

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Just because we have $20 million cap space doesn't mean we have to spend it on two guys that is 1/6 of the total cap for 2 out of 53 players and yes they are both wanting that kind of money from what I hear they both want to be paid as a top 5 player at their position.

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that's why i think they should part ways withhcassell and his contract. and dorsey with his overpriced rookie salary and especially jackson to free some room up

Yes agree. Cutting cassel and either restructure or cut jackson would almost take care of bowe and albert. Cassel needs a fresh start somewhere else. It would be better for everyone. Would love to swap picks with eagles for foles but think it will cost more that.We might have to swap both 1st amd 2nd rd picks with eagles. Which is still not bad at all. So we draft 3 slots later in 1st amd 2ndrnd without loosing a pick.

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Bowe probably is a top 5 guy, or atleast close to it.

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i agree look at the qb's bowe has had throwing him the ball,huard,thigpen,croyle,cassell,quinn. embarassing yet he has still managed to catch 15 td pases in one year and 1200 yards receiving in another. imagine if he had an actual qb throwing him the ball. if he does go and lands in a place like nyg,gb,hou,bal,ne,indy, his numbers will be through the roof. i hope he stays i would love to see what he can do in a andy reid offense

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Originally Posted by jason1981

Yes agree. Cutting cassel and either restructure or cut jackson would almost take care of bowe and albert. Cassel needs a fresh start somewhere else. It would be better for everyone. Would love to swap picks with eagles for foles but think it will cost more that.We might have to swap both 1st amd 2nd rd picks with eagles. Which is still not bad at all. So we draft 3 slots later in 1st amd 2ndrnd without loosing a pick.

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Trading our firsts is equal to the 12th pick in the 1st round. Swapping our 2nd round picks is worth a 6th round pick. If a top 15 pick isnt enough to convince Philly to give us Foles, its like being offered 20k for a new porsche and turning it down because they wont throw in an air freshener. Maybe Im exaggerating, but it seems kinda pointless to try and swap 2nd round picks.

At the same time, I guess it wouldnt really matter if we had to swap 2nds.

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Originally Posted by slc chief

i agree look at the qb's bowe has had throwing him the ball,huard,thigpen,croyle,cassell,quinn. embarassing yet he has still managed to catch 15 td pases in one year and 1200 yards receiving in another. imagine if he had an actual qb throwing him the ball. if he does go and lands in a place like nyg,gb,hou,bal,ne,indy, his numbers will be through the roof. i hope he stays i would love to see what he can do in a andy reid offense

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Exactly!

I dont think just swapping our 1st rnd with eagles woukd be enough cuz they only gain 4 spots up. So i just thohght we might swap 2nd as well. But either way dont think it will happen.

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Originally Posted by N TX Dave

Just because we have $20 million cap space doesn't mean we have to spend it on two guys that is 1/6 of the total cap for 2 out of 53 players and yes they are both wanting that kind of money from what I hear they both want to be paid as a top 5 player at their position.

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Would you rather have Tyson Jackson for $14mm or Bowe and Albert for $16-18mm. No question in my mind what the better cap solution is. 95% chance Tyson Jackson has played his last game as a Chief. And with Dorsey and Jackson gone, don't be shocked if we take ANOTHER DT with the first pick.

Ideal scenario would be a trade back scenario to pick up Foles. Though I haven't watched a single game that Foles played in. I assume if Reid wants him, there is good reason.

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Would you rather have Tyson Jackson for $14mm or Bowe and Albert for $16-18mm. No question in my mind what the better cap solution is. 95% chance Tyson Jackson has played his last game as a Chief. And with Dorsey and Jackson gone, don't be shocked if we take ANOTHER DT with the first pick.

Ideal scenario would be a trade back scenario to pick up Foles. Though I haven't watched a single game that Foles played in. I assume if Reid wants him, there is good reason.

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The Chiefs still haven't cut/restructured Jackson yet. I've watched Foles since we was at Austin Westlake. Even in H.S., this guy looked like he'd be playing on Sunday. Glad to see he got his shot last year. Just from a personal standpoint, it would be pretty cool to see him play for the Chiefs.

I agree that the ideal scenario would be for the Chiefs to trade down. They if they can trade down from #1, do it. The problem is that right now, there isn't that perceived "great player" at #1 overall that is going to make a team give up the bounty necessary to grab that spot. Hopefully, someone will need a franchise LT and they'll do whatever's necessary to trade up to get him. Otherwise, I think the Chiefs are picking at #1.

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Would you rather have Tyson Jackson for $14mm or Bowe and Albert for $16-18mm. No question in my mind what the better cap solution is. 95% chance Tyson Jackson has played his last game as a Chief. And with Dorsey and Jackson gone, don't be shocked if we take ANOTHER DT with the first pick.

Ideal scenario would be a trade back scenario to pick up Foles. Though I haven't watched a single game that Foles played in. I assume if Reid wants him, there is good reason.

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I don't disagree with you on a lot of what you say and if they resign Albert then I would expect them to go DL also in the first. What I was getting at is if we do resign both Bowe and Albert we will not have a lot of cap for all these FA everyone wants to pick up. Yes I think Jackson is gone unless he restructures which will only free up $11.5 million because he is guaranteed $3.22 million and you did not mention the $5.6 million we will save on Cassell because his guarantee is $4.2 million so with those two gone you are only looking at $17.1 million which has around $7 million rookie pool leaving only $10 million for free agents, either one big one, two average ones or a several of backups. I forgot to take in to account Colquitt say $2 million, which I don't know if that is enough and we are down to about $8 million so you can forget the one big name.

Now just think if we would have signed Carr last year at around $10 million a year we would be over the cap after cutting Cassell and Jackson.

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Originally Posted by N TX Dave

I don't disagree with you on a lot of what you say and if they resign Albert then I would expect them to go DL also in the first. What I was getting at is if we do resign both Bowe and Albert we will not have a lot of cap for all these FA everyone wants to pick up. Yes I think Jackson is gone unless he restructures which will only free up $11.5 million because he is guaranteed $3.22 million and you did not mention the $5.6 million we will save on Cassell because his guarantee is $4.2 million so with those two gone you are only looking at $17.1 million which has around $7 million rookie pool leaving only $10 million for free agents, either one big one, two average ones or a several of backups. I forgot to take in to account Colquitt say $2 million, which I don't know if that is enough and we are down to about $8 million so you can forget the one big name.

Now just think if we would have signed Carr last year at around $10 million a year we would be over the cap after cutting Cassell and Jackson.

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good break down but you did not take into fact that there is 53 players on the roster.when talking about what free agents we can sign. there will be more than just 2 players who get cut. there will be more cap space saved than just cassel and jackson if they go that route

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Originally Posted by slc chief

good break down but you did not take into fact that there is 53 players on the roster.when talking about what free agents we can sign. there will be more than just 2 players who get cut. there will be more cap space saved than just cassel and jackson if they go that route

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Likewise there are other of are FA that we sign that will take it right back as well as the onew we have signed already.

cut jackson, dorsey, cassel, resign bowe and albert

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Originally Posted by N TX Dave

I don't disagree with you on a lot of what you say and if they resign Albert then I would expect them to go DL also in the first. What I was getting at is if we do resign both Bowe and Albert we will not have a lot of cap for all these FA everyone wants to pick up. Yes I think Jackson is gone unless he restructures which will only free up $11.5 million because he is guaranteed $3.22 million and you did not mention the $5.6 million we will save on Cassell because his guarantee is $4.2 million so with those two gone you are only looking at $17.1 million which has around $7 million rookie pool leaving only $10 million for free agents, either one big one, two average ones or a several of backups. I forgot to take in to account Colquitt say $2 million, which I don't know if that is enough and we are down to about $8 million so you can forget the one big name.

Now just think if we would have signed Carr last year at around $10 million a year we would be over the cap after cutting Cassell and Jackson.

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The Chiefs will have 5 of the first 100 picks on draft day, including the #1 overall pick. Thank goodness we have a rookie salary cap now, otherwise it would be have been a blood bath in KC this year. Teams with as much talent as ours don't typically get the #1 pick in the draft in my opinion.