Star Lotulelei Has Heart Condition

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02-24-2013, 08:14 PM
texaschief

Star Lotulelei Has Heart Condition

Per ESPN:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8981415/2013-nfl-draft-combine-star-lotulelei-heart-condition-work-monday-according-sources

This deals a serious blow to the Chiefs chances of dealing the #1 overall pick if they were looking to trade down. On the flip side, could Lotulelei be a possible 5th or 6th round pick for the Chiefs if he decides to continue playing? hmm

Add this guy to the name of potential top 5 or 10 overall talents that could be available in the later rounds. How would you like to see a 3rd-6th round produce names like Ogletree (failed drug test), Lattimore (2 knee surgeries/fast healer), Lotulelei (heart condition), and Matheiu (failed drug test) to go along with the 1st and 2nd round picks? Geez. Each of those guys present EXTREMELY low risk and EXTREMELY high upside if they were to be taken after the 2nd round. If things had gone right, each of those names COULD have been top 10 overall picks. IMO, they'd be no-brainer selections after the 2nd round was over and I'd take them in that order. Put Joekel at #1 and a QB in the 2nd and the Chiefs would be the walk-away winners of the draft, hands down.
02-24-2013, 08:48 PM
slc chief

this is a crapy deal for star lotuleli. first off hope he gets well. if he does decide to play there is no way he drops to the 5th or 6th round. i read a local slc article that says the condition is treatable with a change up in his diet
02-24-2013, 08:59 PM
jap1

If Star has what I think he does (a leaky valve or septal defect), it is a repairable condition. However, it will probably put him out for a season. If that was the case I wonder what would happen to his stock. I can see people still wanting him, because he would have a great shot at still being an outstanding lineman. But at the same time, how much would you give for a player who is not going to play for a year?
02-24-2013, 10:54 PM
HaliForPresident

Quote:

Originally Posted by jap1

If Star has what I think he does (a leaky valve or septal defect), it is a repairable condition. However, it will probably put him out for a season. If that was the case I wonder what would happen to his stock. I can see people still wanting him, because he would have a great shot at still being an outstanding lineman. But at the same time, how much would you give for a player who is not going to play for a year?

It may not even be that serious. It could be simply that he is a DL so he trains high intensity strength training a lot. Maybe prolonged strength training regimen caused hypertrophy of the left ventricle which could in turn decrease heart function. You could be right though too. He could have aortic insufficiency which could cause vasodilation of the left ventricle which would in turn decrease ejection fraction. That would be a little more serious of a problem if you're a professional athlete in need of a valve replacement, especially for a guy that young and big.
02-25-2013, 12:48 AM
texaschief

I can't reply to this thread
02-25-2013, 06:24 PM
jap1

Left ventricular hypertrophy doesnt happen from strength training. It is usually because the ventricle is fighting higher pressure (i.e. a leaky valve or septal defect). It could be a rare diet/metabolic disorder, or it could be bad genetic luck (some people are born with hypertrophic hearts).
02-25-2013, 06:25 PM
jap1

Sorry, back to the topic at hand. I would love to steal him for a mid round draft pick. Your scenario below would be close to a dream scenario for building for the future.
02-25-2013, 06:46 PM
Chiefster

Quote:

Originally Posted by texaschief

I can't reply to this thread

Admitting the problem is half the battle. j/k :lol:
02-25-2013, 06:53 PM
texaschief

Not including trade-down compensation, if the Chiefs just stayed where they are in the draft, it's not inconceivable to see these guys available when the Chiefs draft:

1. Luke Joekel
2. Manti Teo
3. Ogletree
3b. Bray
4. Lattimore
5. Lotulelei
6. Mathieu
02-25-2013, 06:54 PM
texaschief

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefster

Admitting the problem is half the battle. j/k :lol:

No sh!t, right? But seriously, I had this 2 paragraph response that it won't let me post. lol
02-26-2013, 01:32 PM
Coach

Quote:

Originally Posted by texaschief

Not including trade-down compensation, if the Chiefs just stayed where they are in the draft, it's not inconceivable to see these guys available when the Chiefs draft:

1. Luke Joekel
2. Manti Teo
3. Ogletree
3b. Bray
4. Lattimore
5. Lotulelei
6. Mathieu

No way that Star falls that far in my opinion.
02-26-2013, 02:17 PM
Chiefster

Quote:

Originally Posted by texaschief

No sh!t, right? But seriously, I had this 2 paragraph response that it won't let me post. lol

:lol: Pretty weird. Did it give some kind of error message.
02-26-2013, 07:10 PM
jason1981

They said it could be just from his diet that he was on and lost 10 pounds in 3 days before the combine. It could be somthing small.
02-26-2013, 09:05 PM
jap1

As a doctor, I have a hard time trying to figure out a way that a diet (short of a lack of a few specific essential vitamins, but even that takes months/years to develop; or alcoholism) would cause the heart muscle of the L ventricle to get bigger. Unless by "diet" they mean PEDs that are stimulants or other medications that he could have been on. Those are known to cause ventricular hypertrophy and stiffening which would decrease the ejection fraction.

Saying it was "just diet" sounds to me like some PR guy at his agent's office trying to save his draft stock.

Then again, I am just speculating on what I have read, which is speculation. Without any first hand knowledge, no one knows what exactly was wrong with him.
02-27-2013, 03:21 PM
texaschief

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefster

:lol: Pretty weird. Did it give some kind of error message.

No. It just told me that the page I was trying to get to no longer existed. I lost the paragraphs. Not the first time I've lost a long response since the new updates to the site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

No way that Star falls that far in my opinion.

Really? I don't see too many teams lining up to spend a top pick on the next possible Korey Stringer.
02-28-2013, 07:32 PM
AkChief49

Romeo would say "he has a heart"
02-28-2013, 07:33 PM
Coach

Quote:

Originally Posted by texaschief

No. It just told me that the page I was trying to get to no longer existed. I lost the paragraphs. Not the first time I've lost a long response since the new updates to the site.

Really? I don't see too many teams lining up to spend a top pick on the next possible Korey Stringer.

Time will tell. But Mock draft and draft experts don't have him falling past the 1st round.
02-28-2013, 09:03 PM
texaschief

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

Time will tell. But Mock draft and draft experts don't have him falling past the 1st round.

Something would have to come out that seriously put all the heart talk to rest in order for one of these teams to spend a pick on him in the first 2 rounds.