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I was embarrassed by those who stood and cheered for the injury to our QB.
I am not embarrassed by a player calling them out for it.
You want to deny it? But there are plenty of people right here on this site who defend the cheers, and others who seem to downplay it. So pretending as if they don't exist is a lost cause.
Personally I am embarrassed and ashamed to be called a chiefs fan right now, not because we've been loosing but because of the behavior of a few so-called "fans". I'm as proud as I can be of Matt Cassel and the rest of the guys including Bowe who I, admittedly, have been critical of.
I'd love to see Matt come out this week and destroy the Bucs with a passing game.
You used the right term..."few". For that reason, I am NOT ashamed to be a Chiefs fan. Sorry to see fans crumble so quickly. I guess I see the great fans. Thanks to the great fans!
I agree, but those few represent of behalf of Chiefs fans, rather we approve, or not.
They should not represent the fanbase. And it is, as I've stated hundreds of times, wrong to judge a whole group for the actions of part of the group.
But it does happen. It will happen, as it has always happened.
Myself, I think this will all be a thing of the past by year's end. I think it is an afterthought by next year, unless Cassel is somehow still here leading, which I doubt.
Chiefster you know I respect you but I am going to stand firm on what I have said to others. If your embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan there is an easy way to cure it. Go find another team and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Regardless of the situation or some fans or perception by ESPN or Eric Winston or even other fans .... I WILL NEVER BE ASHAMED TO BE A CHIEFS FAN. And I also will not apologize for being happy that an alive walking Cassel isn't able to play QB ... and hope he never wears a Chiefs jersey again... if that means the end of his career so be it.
People can deny anything they want.
For instance, there are people who come on here every weekend and deny that Cassel is hurting the team.
You have the right to your outlook and I have the right to say that you and some others need to GET A GRIP on things. This was your post yesterday while Cassel was down.
This is a mans health your talking about and your saying you hope he is hurt enough to go on IR. I have no problem with saying I want Cassel benched. I have said that but saying that you hope he's hurt enough to go on IR. I think you need to do some self checking on your outlook on football. It's football.
I would hope that most Chiefs fans would stand with Winston for his role here.
When some other group's minority does nasty things, don't we always wish that the rest of that group would at least condemn those actions?
I am right with him here. It sucks to have this sort of attention brought onto the fanbase. But it is right to call-out the poor bahavior.
His remarks may generalize. But the basic sentiment of it being wrong to want an injury is spot-on.
If you want a player to be injured, you might have a real problem.
We could always change the old Motley Crue song for Matt to Don't go away hurt ... Just go away
I agree. Nobody rides for free (Ratt song referrance for Mclovin'). Call out the minority but dont bring it across as the "Chiefs fanbase". Im sorry. If you are gonna put that strong of a damning interview out, you better throw in an obvious disclaimer that you arent *******izing the whole city and/or fanbase as your target. Something like, "guys, I wanna make it very clear that ive been treated extremely well since ive been here and ive seen the greatness of this city and this is ONLY a message for the group that did it and it doesnt represent the whole fanbase...."
That simple. But if you listen to the soundbytes and roundtable discussions that programs have dedicated to "kc fans dont know how to act", winston created one helluva fallout for people that didnt deserve it.
The respect is mutual, but as I stated before I am not ashamed or embarrassed because of the team, or because of the coaching or administration for that matter but because of a few classless fans who took it upon themselves to degrade an entire fan base. I'm a fan and am not going anywhere regardless of any invitations to do otherwise. What I have stated is merely my opinion and we do not have to agree, but I will defend and stand by my right to feel on this subject as I see fit.
I'd cheer if Pioli took a headshot. Does that make me classless or just "frustrated" ?
So in theory your not ashamed to be a fan more ashamed of some fans .. I can agree with that .. and respect that .. I just don't like the statement I am embarrassed to be a fan. I personally don't do anything I am embarrassed about. I have done things I wish I wouldn't have but I am never embarrassed to do something and continue to do said act.
What Eric Winston said, was dead on and i am glad a player had the guts to call the fans on such a pathetic display by our fellow fans.. This was the 1st time ive ever been almost ashamed to admit that i am a chiefs fan.. Winston said it best, when he said, " its a game and their not gladiators". For all of my fellow chiefs fans that participated in the cheering of our unconscious QB, growup and get a life! I love football but if your so wrapped up in it to the point that youd actually be happy and cheer at one of your own teams players getting knocked out. You really need to get your priorities straight..
So you have never cheered when a football player made a good hit on a rival opponent?
I'm not sure what you're watching on Sundays but I am watching a violent sport. Multiple people are getting hit on every play of the game, the crowd goes nuts. I guess every football fan, except you of course because you are not cheering about the violence, are sad individuals.
I think some on field issues would be addressed immediately if some front office personnel had to come on the field and take some snaps in each game. I bet there'd be more depth on the offensive line immediately. And for this trainwreck of a team, yeah I wouldn't mine seeing the architect of it getting blasted by Ray Lewis, he deserves it a lot more than Charles does.
And I don't secretly watch Three's Company ... I LOVE Three's Company and miss John Ritter .. I secretly watch Smash.
If the opposing team had a player who was just demolishing every chance that the Chiefs had you wouldn't feel any kind of relief if he was knocked out the game?
Throwing the BS flag on that one.
It just so happens that the MVP for every Chiefs opponent this season was wearing a Chiefs jersey, I'm not going to feel any less relief just because of that.
Lets be real about it, he wasn't life flighted out of the stadium to get immediate life saving surgery. He was squished between a couple of big beefy types, never hit in the head and taken out with a 'head injury'.
With regards to Pioli taking a 'headshot' or getting 'blasted', I never said anything about him being injured. I'd just like to see them take some of these hits. I promise you that if Clark Hunt leaned/leaped out to try and catch some over the middle Cassel pass, that as soon as he was conscious again there'd be a different QB taking snaps.
We are going to have to agree to disagree. I am not going to be involved in a debate where I'm going to be brought to the level of the lowest common denominator. Think what you want, I would not be happy over an injury to anyone. I really cannot help it that you seem to be a victim of shallow thinking, obviously incapable of believing anyone to be any different than yourself.
If a few people cheered because he was hurt, then that is on them. Bad Karma. I think Winston over-reacted and by all means should clarify and apologize. What Winston said was actually worse because he called everyone in that stadium, pathetic and sickening.
one thing about Baldinger, he pulls no punch's and I agree with him. Winston made sure the entire media was there before ripping us. that's just flat wrong.
Is this the cheering Chiefs’ Winston blamed fans for?
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he also insulted managements product or bottom line here.
I was at the game, as were many friends I know sitting in various sections of Arrowhead. I am the only one among my friends who didn't hear cheering for Matt's injury. I'm talking 50 or more friends heard it in their various sections. The reason I didn't hear it, is because I was solely focused on Matt laying on the ground, not paying attention to the crowd environment around me at all.
Not only did my friends acknowledge it happening in their sections...other Chiefs players besides Eric have made public comments about witnessing it, and so have some of the Ravens players, saying they were appalled.
It doesn't matter really whether or not every fan participated in the celebration of Cassel's injury...it only matters that enough fans participated that players on both teams witnessed it, as did many fans at the game.
Some fans behind me were not *cheering* persay, but they were making derogatory comments being very happy Matt was injured & might not finish the game. They were also chanting throughout the game, "Brady, Brady, Brady"...it was distracting.
Fans by a majority began booing & heckling Matt & the offense when they took the field for their first drive. They hadn't even made any mistakes, but the booing & heckling began anyway. They booed & heckled each time the offense took the field. :(
I would imagine by the time Cassel was injured, the entire Chiefs roster had it's fill. They are not happy with Chiefs fans right now, at all. A fan base they once claimed was the best to play for in the NFL, and interact with. Many are withdrawing, no longer interacting among fans. Fans are disrupting their focus, making their job more difficult, beating down their morale & confidence when booing & heckling from the first drive to the last. :(
Put yourself in Eric Winston's place, for just a brief moment. He spent most of the game hearing fans boo & heckle Matt, him, & the entire offense each time they took the field, & after plays. By the time Matt was injured, I would imagine the players were pretty upset.
These men are like a family, they bond like brothers. They become defensive & protective of one another just like we all do over people we care about. How would you feel & react if someone you cared about was injured laying on the ground, and bystanders began celebrating in some manner? I bet most of you would be just as upset & angry as Eric Winston became, understandably so. I know I would've been upset had it happened to someone I care about dearly.