http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=847...e-for-top-pick
The Kansas City Chiefs are looking at only three players for the top overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft - Central Michigan OT Eric Fisher, Texas A&M OT Luke Joeckel and Oregon DE Dion Jordan, according to sources.
Those would be my targets. No one else deserves consideration.
I am not sure why the Chiefs would release this unless trade effort for Geno Smith are exhausted and with the Raider trading for Flynn the possible demand to move up to 1st to get Geno decreased dramatically.
So where would Dion Jordan play. He sounds like a Tamb Hali clone. Are we trading Tamba if we get him. Are they moving Houston to ILB.
I think that Geno Smith exhausted his own stock. The scouting reports have not been good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seek
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2...fw-is-scathingQuote:
Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence - does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor - no urgency. Not committed or focused - marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college - cannot handle hard coaching.
I still say draft smith and trade him. Seems like every frikin year we want to trade down the guys right veliw US gets the trades. I say it's worth a shot.
I do not want to draft a QB at the sake of just drafting a QB. The number one over QB is NOT in this draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-Chiefy
I think we could see Hali lineup everywhere, or get traded/cut. I just remember this conversation on Twitter between he and Osi Umenyiora when he said "I can rush anywhere."Quote:
Originally Posted by Seek
If they got Jordan, it'd be a good problem to have.
I hope DT star is being considered as well.hes considered the best 3-4 end. I really think he will be something special.
De jordan would be a waisted pick sense we already have hali and houston. We need more help else where.
I hope DT star is being considered as well.hes considered the best 3-4 end. I really think he will be something special.
If the Chiefs are looking for a pass-rush up the middle, moving Hali to DE would be logical if they drafted Jordan. Hali measures almost identically to Osi. Osi is a bit quicker, but Hali is about 25lbs heavier. I think moving Hali to DE would suit him well. If you're drafting Jordan, you're doing it because he can basically play anywhere on the field. The guy is an athletic freak. You can put him on the pass-catching TE's in the league and not have to think twice about it. If you've got Hali still rushing the QB, you don't lose much by way of pass rush. I think Jordan would be a great pick primarily BECAUSE we have Hali and Houston. However, I DO think OT is a bigger need. But if you're trying to build a dominating defense, having Jordan, Hali, and Houston as your 3-down pass-rushers with Poe up the middle would go a long way.
Would like to see us get Joeckel
Texaschiefs you may have changed my mind. When you put it that way with outti.gbhali at end it does make sense and sounds really good. But still hope they consider star.
I think this will be great for our pass rush. My concern with this is the run defense. I am not sure how Tamba would stand up against a strong run team.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaschief
I suspect Jordan is being used as bait for a trade with Philly as Jordan's HC at Oregon was none other than the Eagles new HC, Chip Kelly.
From everything I've heard, the Chiefs are trying to address the inside pass rush. What better way to do that than putting one of the best pass rushers in the league on that line while replacing him at OLB with a guy like Jordan? If Osi can play 3-4 DE at 265, why couldn't Tamba at 275? Until Hali proves he can't play that position, I don't think we should assume that he can't just because he's a good 3-4 OLB. He has done a good job as a 4-3 DE of setting the edge against OT's, so there's no reason to think he can't hold his ground against the run. But again, the Chiefs are trying to improve the inside rush while allowing their LB's to make plays. If they upgrade at ILB in the draft, this defense could be a top 3 unit with Hali at DE.Quote:
Originally Posted by jap1
With Albert on bad terms I think we have no choice but to get OL help. If its just a smokescreen and the regime feel they have that situation under control then we can go elsewhere with our pick. Remember our defense last season was great. We need to solidify our offense first cause I think we can make playoffs with the current defense without help, but the offense without Albert or one of the top prospects in this draft, were not going far
Unless the Chiefs move to a 4-3. They could move Tamba back to DE, and put Jordan at the other end. Keep Houston as an OLB...Quote:
Originally Posted by jason1981
I agree, Lets face it. He is the only one that is deserving of a #1 pick this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefster
So why do people want Joeckel over Fisher. Attached is an article that does not make me feel to excited about either but who says the author knows what he is saying.
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/pick...4628--nfl.html
Isn't that the same guy that gave bad reviews about Cam Newton and RGIII..............Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller
I am unsure about that. I never heard anything bad about RGIII. But I did hear some of the same things about Cam Newton. Difference is that Cam Newton's intangibles are just greater than Geno's.Quote:
Originally Posted by doobs_05
I wouldnt say I am assuming he cannot, just that I have my reservations. I thought he wasnt that great as a 4-3DE against the run. He had a good motor and was great at preventing the cut back, but I remember him being vulnerable when offenses would try to run directly at him. Then again, that was like 5 years ago. Like I said, I dont hate the idea, just have reservations.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaschief
I think he would definitely be an immediate replacement for Albert, should we dole him off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller
Albert, as good as he is, right now is disgruntled. Replacing him is this teams number on priority. We have to protect the QB (love him or hate him) that we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefster