The fact that all but one (Page, who still hasn't signed) are attending VOLUNTARY OTAs says a lot about the mentality of this team.
Now bring all the negative posts :ninerssuck:.
Insider Blog: A Year Makes A Difference
The fact that all but one (Page, who still hasn't signed) are attending VOLUNTARY OTAs says a lot about the mentality of this team.
Now bring all the negative posts :ninerssuck:.
Insider Blog: A Year Makes A Difference
I love what I'm seeing, just can't wait to see this team in action.
Lookout my fellow chiefs fans ,we are in for a treat, the CHIEFS will rise to the top and once again be the power of the AFC West.:chiefs:
Brian Waters included.
I am so freaking excited!
Yeah it says a lot about our team now.
Mike Vrabel too? Wow.
I agree completely, The players really seem to be excited about the new coaching staff. The interviews are great and it will be really interesting to see how Cassell and the offense gel this season. Our secondary and running backs should be really exciting!
I was excited last year too with all the new personnel in the organization. But this year my excitement is exponentially higher. This is a TEAM and they are gearing up for an exciting winning season!!! GO CHIEFS!!!!!
I agree with the sentiments here, but I really, really, really can't figure out what the title of this thread is supposed to be saying.
I don't no if there is a lot of teams that can say the same thing. But this is good for a team. Means all the players want to be in KC and that is a good thing.
I don't see the problem. Its voluntary, vets usual take it easy till mandatory OTA's. Some are still rehabbing...And Page hasn't signed. I suspect since Page hasn't signed, they might be working on a contract.
the only thing im hesitant about is rudy taking 1st team reps at center..i dont want him as our center, AT ALL
I love the excitement. I'm afraid Page is burning bridges with the Chiefs by not being in camp.
Why are you expecting negative posts. The only people who would whine are the people who didn't give Haley a chance last year and jumped to conclusions that the players hated Haley because he yelled at them for sucking. They were to used to losing. As they got better he didn't yell as much.
I will tell you this. Page needs to get his butt signed and in camp. If he thinks his job is safe, because he be wrong. Specially if he does not sign his tender looking for a bigger contract.
Ah, that title makes more sense!
I don't think the Chiefs brass are going to be all that concerned when a restricted free agent (who would have been an UFA in a capped year) hasn't signed his tender, especially when he was just replaced in the draft.
this isn't an issue of the player "not being on board." it's business.
Just remember that he isn't under contract. It isn't like Andre Johnson, who has FIVE YEARS left on his contract. Page isn't "holding out." He hasn't officially joined the team yet, so I don't think it's altogether terrible that he's absent.
I don't think Page is on thin ice, personally. I certainly don't think he's our free safety, but he works hard, he's a talented player, and he'll make a great strong safety or backup.
BY THE WAY
If any of you are thinking that the hiring of Weis and Crennel is not DIRECTLY responsible for the players, especially the vets like Waters and Vrabel, being happy and present at these OTAs, you're missing the point.
Instead of having idiots like Krumrie yelling at them, or having their coordinators argue with the head coach about philosophy, they are staring at 9 super bowl rings hand-in-hand with Haley. there is finally cohesion in the coaching ranks. Talented, experienced, proven coaches who all are on the same page.
It's a big deal.
Todd Haley made alot of mistakes in his first season as a Head Coach. And he definitely made enemies of several of the players. He managed to salvage some bad relationships. But he also failed to salvage some.
There is nothing negative about saying that. It's what happened.
I have not heard an update recently, but there was some reports that Page was still injured from last year. That would explain a lot as to why he is not with the team and why he has not resigned.
There is no hurry and if he is injured still, then his spot will be as open for him as any other injured player out there.
In February he did work out, and he is saying he feels great, but there is a difference with what the player is saying and what the trainers say.
:beat_DeadHorse: time
Still, we let go the wrong safety last year.
What players????
LJ... I would side with Haley on that one.
Waters???? That was before the season started and that was Waters fault for just showing up and expecting them to talk contracts. I can not go into my bosses office during the middle the day without setting up a meeting and demand for them to give me a raise or move me to a different team. I don't care who you are or how much respect the fans thinks he deserves. Point of that arguement. Haley did win two games with anyone off the street. I side with Haley and Pioli. Clearly they worked things out before the season even started.
Bobby Wade??? They guy openly and on TV erupted when Haley called him out for making a mistake. I side with Haley.
The biggest mistake he made was claiming himself as OC. Other than that, any mistake he made towards a player is probably a player with has a Me Me losing attitude and is not needed on this team.
No matter who you side with, he made enemies of some of the players. That is what happened. And saying that is not negative.
As far as mistakes go, if the HC is perfect then the team will have a pretty good record. We did not. So it's pretty safe to assume that mistakes were made. Afterall, how many games did LJ start? :D
And even that is not some big negative statement. It's just a fact of life that noone is perfect.
Muhammad Ali lost 5 fights in his professional career. Micheal Jordan said it himself... "I have failed over and over and over again".
Is this your opinion or fact. Name the players he made enemies with. You do not know this at all other than LJ. My point is that there are people (specially in the media) so negative about Haley, they twisted stories like Brian Waters, to play against him. People like Mitch Holthus said all years that the TV is only picking up the negatives. Haley was more than happy to reward and recognize positive play as well but that didnt' make good TV. From what he had saw, his positive out weighed the negatives at least 3 to 1.
The point I am making is that he probably didn't make as enemies as you THINK he did, and the players are all on the same page as Haley and it is showing by their attendance.
And if you truly think Page is safe because he is a good safety. Look back one year to Bernard Pollard. At this point Page, is hurting his status by not signing is RFA and joining OTA's. Page will not make a SS. He is not a very good tackler specially against the run.
Bowe, the same player who dumped water on Haley after his first win and hugged him afterwards.
DJ, has more times than once said he knows he has work to do and even admited to being out of position on one of his TD's against Denver.
I had no problems with Pollard Leaving.
wait for it....
Yep, Apparently there are a lot of negative fans who are looking for excuses to hate on a coach that does not accept losing.
Fact of the matter, Haley ruffled feathers on a team set on losing. If people have problems with that, maybe they should cheer for the Lions or Rams instead.
If only Bernard Pollard, Larry Johnson, Bobby Wade and Brian Waters (Temporarily), he had bad relationships with some of the players.
But there are more, most have already been mentioned here, that he certainly appeared to have done this with.
But, regardless of how many players this happened with, if was more than one, then he made enemies of some of the players.
Even if what he did to make a player an enemy was the right thing to do, and it was all the player's fault, he still made enemies of some of the players.
Did he make enemies of some of his players?
Yeah, but Chief31 likes to argue semantics to prove himself right. There must be more people who are his enemies because he argued with someone!!
And Canada likes to follow me around like a lost puppy, but doesn't read past a paragraph to understand anything being said.
You are a hero to us all.
Bernard Pollard. That's two. That makes players, plural. No negative opinion to it. They got into a shouting match on the sideline, then Pollard was promptly released.
It doesn't matter who reported it, or opted not to report it. That is irrelevant because we all witnessed it.
Brian Waters tried to get traded after his first discussion with Todd Haley. For a brief time, he had made an enemy of Waters.
Right or wrong, love it or hate it, he did make enemies of some of his players. And saying that he did is comparable to making note that the grass in my yard is green. It's just stating the obvious.
Why you want to break down how deep the shade of green is is beyond me. Emerald green, forest green, mint green... it's still green.
Semantics.
I've yelled at coaches, teammates, fellow coworkers, family, and some of you nitwits on here:D, but none these people I mentioned are my enemies. People don't always see head to head, but that's far from being enemies. Simple misunderstandings can blow up in the heat of the moment, but you move past them without instantly becoming "enemies".
I yelled and argued at both of my sons yesterday. They were not listening and back talked me. They both woke up this morning loving me and hugging on me. The youngest refused to let me leave him at day care and cried when I left. Is he my enemy?
Pollard, showed he wasn't about the team. Pollard made enemies with his boss and was fired for it.
LJ showed he wasn't about the team. He quit made enemies with his boss, publicly called him out and was fired.
Those are what you call cancers in the locker room. Clearly this draft shows that type of player this team is looking for and it is not those type of players. Last season was a weeding season.
I couldn't agree more with Seek. There is a huge difference between candor, which is a great trait to have within any organization, and a player that is acting as a cancer to the team.
All players hate coaches to a certain degree. Coaches push players to the max sometimes and they don't like it.
They may hate the coach as a coach....like DJ or whatever, but there are players LJ who call them out and don't like them as a person.
Very few players on this team hate Todd as a person...probably none, cause the one that did is gone and still hating.
people are crazy not to think that there wont be arguments ever again..
Some players will not like the new coaching regime, some will. Some players will be cut because they can't "get along" it's like that with any job, not just football.
We got a new GM at my work, there has been 3 peoplegone the first 3 weeks just because they didnt want to be compliant.. Its not just football.
Chief31, I understand what you're saying, and you have points, but if you're going to live by the semantics, then you die by the semantics.
What is an "enemy?" Can you go ahead and define that?
because if an "enemy" is someone who yells at Haley, then Kurt Warner was an enemy. Except that Kurt Warner consistently said that Haley was the reason they were successful, and would text him several times a night about ideas. Who, then?
Haley is abrasive and yells. so did Cowher. Players yell back. Haley isn't kicking them off the field for yelling back. He's kicking them off the field for being fat, lazy, unprepared, and blowing assignments. I think Haley LIKES players who get pissed off. I think he wants a little grit. Just freaking do your job.