So, Geno has played good defenses?
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That fan post was so cherry-picked, it's pathetic... because if it's one thing we ALL know, it's that the Big 12 is known for their defense... :lol: Do that comp with Wilson on his 2011 team that wasn't dealing with a massive scandal and roster turnover and you'll see VERY different story. Like one where Wilson went 4-2 against top 50 "passing defense" teams and only lost to the 2 BCS Nations Championship contenders who ranked #1 and #8 respectively in TOTAL defense.
Btw, those 4 "top 50 passing defenses" Wilson lost to averaged a rank of 10th TOTAL defense with the worst being 19th and the best being #1. The best TOTAL defensive team the Big 12 could muster up was 16th and they beat West Virginia. The next best TOTAL defensive team the Big 12 could bring to the party was Texas Tech at #38... who THOROUGHLY DOMINATED West Virginia. Next, we come to Kansas St. ranked 45th TOTAL defense and even though K-State won, it was ONLY by a score of 55-14.
So, in short... no... Geno Smith NEVER faced a good defense... and when he faced a top 50 defense, he was absolutely destroyed and embarrassed.
Cherry-picked? You act like Geno has never accomplished a single thing in his college career. That 14th ranked D that he "lost" too. Can you tell me who that was again? I'm pretty sure he put up darn near 50 on them. Wait, can't go there, seeing as he "lost".
The TTU game was probably the worst game of the season for him and it's still far better than any QB's "worst game" would be for us. I don't even care if we draft Geno anymore, I just want a QB. What I do care about is how you constantly trash Geno just because he beat Texas. You constantly demean him while pimping game-managers like Aaron Murray.
I'd take Klein and Landry Jones before I took Geno Smith. Both performed MUCH better than Smith against Texas. In fact, I would've taken RGIII or Weeden in last year's draft as well. I don't give a s#!t about who beats UT. I'm not THAT big of a fan. Not ONCE have I mentioned his beating UT as reason for my disapproval of a Smith pick at #1. It bothers you that I can actually put a lucid anti-Smith argument together, and his beating UT is the best rebuttal you can come up with? Awesome.
Geno Smith is going to be a garbage QB at the next level. If you want Jason Campbell, why don't you just say so? He's going to be available as a free agent. We don't need to kill this team for the foreseeable future by wasting a pick on his clone when we could just throw away THIS season on a mediocre QB... and then move on.
But, at least Smith had the balls to show up to the senior bowl and compete against the other QBs in his class... oh, wait. Gotta love a QB prospect who's afraid to be compared to his piers and afraid of competition. IDK about y'all, but that just SCREAMS "winner" to me.
The fact that you guys are hanging your entire argument on trash stats in losing efforts is laughable. Of course he was going to have big numbers against LSU... when you're getting your *** stomped that bad, passing the ball is the only option. Geno Smith had a 58% completion rate and 2 picks in 2011 against LSU. 7 of WV's 8 first half drives ended in either a punt or a turnover. The majority of Smith's passing yards in that game came when the game was already out of hand. It didn't go any better for Wilson... well, other than a 63% completion rating and only 1 pick. The final score wasn't the same and Wilson didn't put up 2x as many yards... but the result was still the same. Nothing else matters.
Geno Smith beat 2 teams who have legitimate NFL talent his entire career. Last year's Clemson team (and destroyed that team) and this year's Texas team in the last minute. Two career defining WINNING performances.
The rest of his career wins came against:
2011
Marshall, Norfolk St, Maryland, Bowling Green, UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati (#23), Pittsburgh, and South Florida
2012
Marshall, James Madison, Maryland, Baylor, Iowa St., and Kansas.
Every other time he was challenged against elite talent that he and his NFL caliber WRs couldn't run away from, he lost... and usually convincingly.
2011
#2 LSU 47-21, (NR) Syracuse 49-23, (NR) Louisville 38-35
2012
(NR) TxTech 49-14, #4 KSU 55-14, (NR) TCU 39-38, (NR) OSU 55-34, #12 OU 50-49, (NR) Syracuse 38-14
6 of those 9 losses were by at least 15pts. Y'all are so blinded by his average completion percentage which, is inflated by his performances against inferior talent, that y'all don't even check to see what he did against these teams he LOST against. He performed at a 55% completion rate during his losses. It wasn't like he tore things up and his team just let him down... in fact, it was probably closer to the opposite. I contend that it was BECAUSE of his poor completion percentage and poor performance against better talent that probably caused those losses.
Does it honestly NOT bother you that Smith only shows up against inferior talent? That argument alone was the sole reason why EVERYONE thought Poe was a reach last year. He had "all the tools" but didn't perform against top talent... ring a bell? Where was this "franchise QB" when his team was getting blown out by unranked teams like Syracuse, TxTech, and OSU? Wouldn't you think a "franchise QB" should have been worth at least 2 more points and "find a way" to beat OU and TCU?
Bottom line, Geno Smith has only beaten 4 teams who finished the season in the top 25 his whole career. Those teams were ranked 11th, 15th, 23rd, and 25th. Those were his accomplishments. THAT'S IT. Wilson beat 4 teams who finished in the top 25 in 2011 alone, ranked 8th, 9th, 14th, and 15th. Why are you putting so much stock in wins against the severely inferior teams listed above and desperate passing numbers in blowout games in Geno Smith's losses? Why are you dismissing the fact that he can't win against good teams? I'm not interested in a QB who puts up eye-popping numbers in blow-out losses... what's the point??
Just kidding... my opinion is based solely on the fact that he beat UT... because that's logical.
Isn't one of the huge knocks on cassel is that he can only beat on the weaker teams in the NFL but not against the tougher competition?
kinda sounds familiar doesn't it?
Sounds good. I remember a similar conversation I had about Pioli when we were talking about hiring him. Turns out, the media darlings aren't always what they're hyped up too be. Pioli, Notre Dame, Obama... sometimes that "gold" is actually just pyrite.