What I'm saying is that Albert is already good enough. There are questions at the other positions, especially C, but Albert is not the problem, and drafting Joeckell is silly.
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That's a valid point, and understand that the door swings both ways; it doesn't matter how good your OL line is if your QB is crap. I simply believe that given this years QB class that our need at the QB position can just as easily be addressed in FA. Dorsey has made it clear that his philosophy is to draft the best player available, which doesn't appear to be a QB at this point.
This article is a good read. It talks about top rated QB's not participating in the throwing drills at the combine. Recently, Smith, Nassib, and Barkley have all stated that they will be participating this year in the combine. Why is this relevant to the conversation? Because over the last 8 years, only 1 QB (Newton) who had a chance to go in the top 5 overall, participated in the throwing drills. The article states that the reason for this is because nothing good can from participating in the combine drill for a QB who is projected to go in the top 5 or perhaps #1 overall and if they're already slotted to go high in the draft, why give the teams a chance to break you down, tear you apart, and damage your draft position? The only reason for a QB to participate in the throwing drills is to improve his draft stock... but it's a pretty big gamble on their part. Evaluations could go either way.
In 2005, Aaron Rogers and Alex Smith sat out. In '06, it was Russell and Quinn. '07 saw Young and Leinart sit out. In '08 Matt Ryan decided against participating. In '09, Stafford sat out. Bradford sat out in '10. Newton was the lone, brave soul who decided to participate in 2011 and his throwing motion was ripped to shreds during the 3 month gap between the combine and the draft. Luckily, Carolina desperately needed a QB and he was already the #1 player on 6 teams' boards before the combine and heading into the draft. Last year we saw RGIII and Luck both sit out during the throwing portion of the draft. This should put the 2013 QB draft class in perspective for you. When you say ANY one of these QBs is worth a top 5 pick, you might want to see what the players and their management team actually think about their own draft prospects. If they believed themselves that they were already worth a top 5 selection, they wouldn't risk that draft position by participating in the throwing drills. Not ONE of these QB's are in a position to protect their draft position and must earn their spot in the draft by participating in this drill.
To me, the fact that all these guys will probably be participating this year speaks VOLUMES.
Geno didnt participate in the Senior Bowl and people went on about how he was "scared" and this and that..... He wants to silence the doubters at this point, establish himself as the #1. Also it's not a good argument for not taking a QB. "They're all participating in throwing drills at the combine"
Right because none of them are good enought to be number one so they have to prove it, which could backfire. but at the same time could elevate any one of them if they stand out. Where as years prior the sure fire number one didn't have to throw. It's a calculated risk. It's not about silencing doubters. He HAS to throw to elevate his stock. He's not throwing to silence he could get crushed by the scouts.
Why he decided to throw at the combine:
“Honestly just a matter of me going out and competing, being able to show scouts and coaches what I can do. Obviously it’s in shorts and just a little bit of who I am as a player, but still good to allow them to see me throw in live action against other quarterbacks, and they will be able to kind of compare me based on them and vice versa. It’s good to be out there and compete and showcase my talents.”
I am a little late to the conversation, but I will put in my 2 cents.
Generally, I wouldnt be too upset with the outcome of this mock offseason. Im not sure if we would be able to afford Bowe and what G. Jennings probably wants. The other FA pickups would provide good competition and would probably see the field. I like the resign/release list. Im ok with Dorsey going because I think he is wasted in our system and would get a nice payday. Im on the fence about B. Albert. I think we would be able to restructure T. Jax's contract, and if so, I would like to keep him, but if he gets greedy, Im willing to show him the door.
Basically getting Foles and another 3rd rounder for our 2nd round pick would "fix" the QB situation in my opinion, and really free up our options for the #1 pick. If Reid likes him that much, then In Reid I Trust. He knows him better than any other coach in the league. With the way the Philly is posturing, I think they want to trade Foles, but want at least our 2nd, if not swapping firsts. Either one I would be ok with, but I would hope we got more than just swapping our firsts. If I were a Philly fan, I would be very happy with a combination of Vick/G. Smith/Dennis Dixon at QB.
Anyways, I dont have a problem with letting Albert walk IF we got Foles. I personally am not blown away by any of the QBs this year. If we fixed the QB problem, where else is there a BIG need? DL? I personally dont like picking a 3-4 DE in the top 10. Maybe in the middle of the round. CB? The top CB is barely considered a top 10 talent. LB? In this league, the 2nd ILB is only on the field on 1st/2nd down anyway, so why spend a top 10 pick on him. FS? OG? RB? WR? There arent any expected to break the top 10 or 15 even in some cases. OLB? We already have 2 really good ones.
Getting Foles would open up a lot of opportunities, the best of which would be to trade down.
Back to Albert, I think he is good, but I am concerned about his back. I would want to tag him so that if his back is healthy, he would get a new contract midway through the season, but only if we have enough cap space (I have read conflicting arguments that we have a lot of cap space and that we have very little, both from equally reputable sources). Worst case scenario, Stephenson has done pretty decently in a backup role.
We need to keep albert,bowe amd restructure jackson and draft DT star and trade for foles. And if some how we can get piercy harvin as well then i would say this offseason was perty damn good.
jemarcus russell was a sure fire #1 so was ryan leaf. bottom line is yeah the draft experts got last years sure fire#1's right(luck,rg3). .but they bad mouthed rodgers,flacco,ryan,brees,projecting them later in the draft. just the same as they are this draft class. hell russell wilson had to be embarrased live on espn when he was drafted. with the announcer saying he was to short and didn't have the potential to be a starter in the nfl. so did brady quinn when the so called experts claimed him as a golden star yet the nfl teams knew more than they did. and a bunch of teams passed on him. i can remember going into last years combine they had ryan tannenhill projected as a 3rd rounder to begin with then he started climbing after the combine. but kiper jr and the other clowns said he was a risky pick and again couldn't be an immediate starter. if you watched hard knocks last year half way through the dolphins camp it was clear tannenhill was the best qb on the team. was his rookie year as good as luck or rg3 no. but he did pretty damn good for a rookie on a team with absolutley no wr's.