Originally Posted by
Ryfo18
Then I guess you're just completely discounting that he had pretty much the same passing stats as RGIII in 2011...Both faced a lot of the same Big 12 defenses.
RGIII averaged 3 more yards per attempt than Smith, is a much better athlete and more mobile than Smith, and finished his senior season with a 10-3 record just to name a few key differences. I'm pretty sure you don't want to start comparing Geno Smith to RGIII.
Or the LSU game in 2011 (they played in the BCS championship) when he threw for 463 yards. The 21 points West Virginia put up that game was tied for the 2nd most all year against the LSU D. That's some good tape to go look at. He misses some throws in that game, but he consistently challenged them 10+ yards down the field.
Again, if we're looking at the 2011 season, Tyler Wilson blows Geno Smith away...
As for your other long post, which I won't quote just to save space, I agree with you that if they don't bring back Albert, Joeckel is a safe, vanilla pick. I'm not going to argue against it. It doesn't make the team any better personnel wise though. We do have the advantage of getting a younger guy in there though (provided he lives up to his billing).
It may not make it a whole lot better, but it sure as hell prevents a giant step backward if either the Chiefs don't re-sign Albert or if he gets hurt. I can't even imagine how many posts you'd be throwing out there, giving excuse after excuse for Geno Smith's failures if neither Albert nor Joekel were on this team.
But here lies basically what I've been trying to argue this whole time. EVERYONE screams take the best player available. Well if Joeckel is the best player available and who we take if Albert doesn't come back, then why don't we take Joeckel if Albert does come back? He's the best player...I mean, pound the frikkin table for him.
Filling a MAJOR need at #1 with the 2nd or 3rd best player in the draft is quite different than filling that need with the 14th best player in the draft. I'd love to see an O-line with Albert AND Joekel... not sure many fans would disagree. With the depth this team currently has on the O-line, it probably wouldn't be the best utilization of resources... but that obviously doesn't matter to you, so why would you care now that the principal is applied to LT instead of QB.
It's because, like I said, positional needs factor into their player grades in the end (increased demand = increased value in the QB position). Thus why Geno could potentially be at the top of their draft board. I won't argue the Geno stuff anymore, I've said my peace on it and that's who I hope we take. I'd be happy with Wilson at the same pick, or Dysert in round 2. But I think this team is best served by drafting Geno.