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You got to love it! Cassel sucks it up again and it is the fans! I could not be happier to have 2 wins now. The defense is showing they are the real thing. The special teams are going to be the envy of other teams. The offense is a JOKE. You can blame the line all you want....no line in the NFL
You got to love it! Cassel sucks it up again and it is the fans! I could not be happier to have 2 wins now. The defense is showing they are the real thing. The special teams are going to be the envy of other teams. The offense is a JOKE. You can blame the line all you want....no line in the NFL can protect the quarterback that long on EVERY play
Uhh yeah, we are 2-0 but does it really feel like it? I dont feel like they are 2-0 the way they've played offense this year it seems like luck. How many 3 and outs will it take for you to think he sucks? I also posted this topic right after his 2nd interception when we were losing.
yea it doesnt feel like 2-0 since we arent scoring or moving the ball on offense. Non the less we are 2-0 and its great. we cannot slow down everyone in our division and besided the raiders (which also looked better then us) scored mucho pts on offense.
Cassel has not performed up to expectations thus far. That is plain and simple. However, give Weiss some time. This was only his second game calling plays for our offense. It takes a while to figure out how to best utilize the offense. It took Gailey half a season two years ago to figure out how to make our offense respectable. It took Haley a while last year. Give Weiss more than two games.
And by the way, we are 2-0 with a home game against San Fran next Sunday! Keep your heads up Chiefs fans!
I am THRILLED with the end results thus far.
Atop our division at 2-0 having defeated our divional champ of the past few years and one game on the road is very satistfying.
I fully expected it to make more than two games to get Cassel comfortable with the quick passing game. Truth be told, I will be amazed if he ever does.
While I love Thomas Jones, I would like to see Charles getting more carries than Jones.
Charles was the most effective HB in The NFL when he was starting last season. He was barely noticable when he was an afterthought to Larry Johnson.
Hard not to prefer having the most effective HB in The NFL.
But the most impressive thing about this team has to be the turnaround of our defense.
Far from perfect, they are still just amazingly better than in recent years. (At least so far.)
Overall, I still see where there are some huge problems with the team. And I understand the concerns about Cassel especially.
BUt I will give it more than two games (Wins, mind you) to go calling for his head.
Changing from a "sit in the pocket and wait for something" guy to "snap the ball and go, go, go" guy is likely going to be a slow process.
Man, tough loss for us......if Cassell would have played better we might have won.
Cassel's efficiency numbers are scary, 55.8:toast2:
Weiss is touted as a great developer of QBs. And his track record is difficult to argue with.
Just wondering what our expectations are for a timeline of said development.
Albeit, I would expect better progress through two games. But I am far from surprised at the struggles of this developing process.
Now, I want to be clear here. I am far from confident that Cassel even can be transformed from a drop back and wait for patterns to open up kind of QB to a quick reading sort.
I didn't like the trade we made for him. I still don't really like it.
But I am not really even close to calling it after two games. (Both wins)
While I sincerely doubt his abilty to be a great QB in this offense, I have very little doubt that he will be better than he was today.
But honestly, is two games the standard for measuring the development of a QB?
Like what is happening or not, we are undefeated thus far. I agree, 2 games does a season not make. It seems some just want to point out the things that are not up to snuff. Hard to evaluate everything after 2 games. One of which was in the pouring rain! Will we finish 16-0? Not hardly but even as pesamistic as I can be, I choose to enjoy the 2 wins this week.
Cassel hasn't been good. Frankly, our whole offense not named Jamaal Charles has been poor. This specifically includes Charlie Weis. We've won the past two games due to Jamaal Charles, our special teams, and our defense.
I don't think we'll keep winning games unless Cassel, Bowe, Albert, and especially Weis step it up. But God, these past two wins have been sweet.
My expectations for this season are only that we become competetive. Not that we be competetive right now. Just that we become a team that opponents no longer take lightly.
If we exceed expectations, then GREAT! But I never expected Cassel to play well coming out of the gates this year.
I expect him to "BECOME" a competetive QB. There is a process to that and the first two steps I expect to be at the wrong end of the spectrum.
If he still looks terrible midway through the season, then I am likley to start speaking out against him.
But, in going from "not good" at making quick decisions, to "good" at it, I expect the first couple of steps to be at the "not good" end.
Absolutely!
And the best news of all is that this a team that I expect to get better. And to start out with two wins before we get better is huge!
Before we start thinking about Matt Cassel's ability, lets look at who he has to throw the ball to...We have two starting recievers that are unable to stretch the field, a rookie TE, and another rookie coming in off special teams for the occassional slot route and knows zero on the offensive playbook...With the running attack we have there should be no issues with our receivers getting separation on play action passes and THEY ARE NOT!! Matt Cassel holds on to the ball too long. Is it his inability to find open receivers? Or, are our receivers unable to get open? I'm watching the games on the tube so my vision of the field is limited...Perhaps someone that attended the game can chime in.
As fans we can wait and see...if that is what you want! If you believe Cassel is the QB to take us into the future, go ahead and keep waiting. You can blame the line as much as you want and hope for better NEXT YEAR. I will not try to argue that we have the best line in the NFL, I will say it is far from the worst. If we continue as we are now, no matter how improved the defense is, we need an offense to move the ball. We can not count on the defense or special teams to win games. It may have worked so far...but week 5 and 6 will need an offense. San Francisco is still a hurdle and we could be in real trouble if we can not move the ball. We can enjoy being undefeated to this point, one thing is sure we are STUCK
As fans we can wait and see...if that is what you want! If you believe Cassel is the QB to take us into the future, go ahead and keep waiting. You can blame the line as much as you want and hope for better NEXT YEAR. I will not try to argue that we have the best line in the NFL, I will say it is far from the worst. If we continue as we are now, no matter how improved the defense is, we need an offense to move the ball. We can not count on the defense or special teams to win games. It may have worked so far...but week 5 and 6 will need an offense. San Francisco is still a hurdle and we could be in real trouble if we can not move the ball. We can enjoy being undefeated to this point, one thing is sure we are STUCK with Cassel until next year.
Since we're on the topic of talking about things that cassell and the offense are NOT doing:
-Throwing temper tantrums and kicking the ball
-throwing interceptions in the red zone
-fumbling
-giving up on eachother
-losing games
We're 2-0 and I'm loving it
Lets not lie. Half of those years were spent backing up Tom Brady. That's a pretty hard competition going against a Super Bowl MVP, wouldn't ya think? In college he backed up Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart who both happen to be Heisman trophy winners.. once again hard competition, right? It's not like he's had multiple tries over his career being the starter. Truth be told this is only his second season to be groomed as the starter, 2008 happened by accident, and when that came up he performed well. I don't like the way he's playing and I think the Chiefs should start looking for another QB. But I still have hope he proves me wrong.
So this season is over? How did we do? Did we win The Super Bowl? Hell, we never even lost a game. We must be the CHAMPS!!!!!!
WOOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wait a minute....:sign0094:
It's still September.
So, you don't mind if some of us hope that Cassel gets better with the rest of this season, do you?
Is two games too much of the season for improvement to happen in just the last 14 (Maybe more) games?
Well he improved over last week, so all hope is'nt lost..
I for one is in no hurry to buy a Cassel Jersey, I am not yet happy with his performance. He must get better, can he? Well he must have the ability, or he would not be in the NFL. So it is make or break. I hope he pull his head out, and quits playing scared, and just believes, he needs to make the game slow down. To do that he needs to process his reads faster, and throw the ball over the rush!
Again, Trent Green's first couple of seasons were horrible and I, by and large, felt the same way about him as do many feel about Cassel now. I'm glad that in the end Green proved me wrong about him; I hold out hope that Cassel will do the same.
Lets be realistic here...... The Chiefs play calling for the most part given Cassel a chance to get in the motion of things. When the majority of the game they run 1st and 2nd down and then Cassel is left with 3rd and long, you can't expect much out of him. When they finally opened up their play book and let Cassel throw the ball, he marched the Chiefs down field through the air against the Browns. Got within the 10 and the go back to the run again?!?!?!?!
To me, the play calling hasn't been great. Cassel needs to be giving a lil more freedom. Until that happens, we will never know what his full potential really is.
Its pretty sad that even when they win you still have nothing but complaints about the game. Nothing positive out of your mouths.Until then, stop being a bunch of cry babies. The Chiefs are 2-0. Just sit back and enjoy it.
I'm not sure what to think about him. He had a pretty darn good year at NE replacing Brady. We certainly haven't seen that yet at KC though. Was that year a fluke? Did he lose his confidence last year behind a bad OL that didn't give him much of a chance? I'm still want to give him a chance, but the doubts continue to mount.
He had a good cast around him to throw the ball to..We need a receiver that will command double team coverage..That will open things up to the other WR's/TE's. Look at D. Bowe's numbers a couple years ago when we had Tony Gonzalez forcing secondaries to alter their coverage..Bowe came up with good numbers with over 1000yds receiving.
Charles had one big carrier right before half and another decent one, when the Browns were in prevent padding his stats. They were junk yards. other than, the Browns were on him.
As the game went on Jone was getting better and more and more yards.
I felt that Jones was a clear cut option in the second half.
Little late to the party here, but anyways the two biggest problems I have with the offense so far:
1. Cassel is terrible, and is probably one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the league right now.
2. What is McCluster's role in this offense? I thought he was drafted to be our slot receiver, giving Cassel some relief on short quick passes (Wes Welker style), but his 2 catches for 9 yards so far this year suggest that he's not really doing well in that role.
I think we need to sign a slot receiver ASAP. I really wish we had drafted Jordan Shipley, even after taking McCluster. Then again, Urban was probably supposed to fill that role, and he ended up on IR.
2-0, but man it's hard to feel too great about the offense going forward. At least the defense looks great. Kudos to Coach Romeo!