Originally Posted by tornadospotter
I see what you're saying. Our lack of offense gave them more opportunities to score against us. Perhaps this also led to poor morale for the team as a whole.
However I still think, with the way the defense was playing, they would have scored a lot of points against us. We shouldn't expect our offense to score 35 to 40 points to win a game ... it would be nice but ...
Originally Posted by CapitalT
why resort to name calling, we are all upset over that loss, but remember we are all CHIEFS fans and all want the same thing, the total destruction of the raders and broncs at ARROWHEAD, a division title, a conference championship, a super bowl victory, the beginning of a dynasty.:chiefs:
Yep! All of the above.:chiefs:
Originally Posted by chiefnut
Seattle is a horrible team...even worse than when we played Cleavland.
Originally Posted by brdempsey69
Really? Watch them probably become world beaters when the Chiefs play them up in Seattle.
Originally Posted by honda522
that should give us 9-10 wins and the division, after that its a brand new season
Everytime? So I guess those key overtime throws vs. the Bills were all way off target. So was the throw vs. Dallas last year on 4th down to tie the game...Oh yeah and the 4th quarter throw to Bowe to give us the lead vs Oakland (down 4 on 3rd and 11) that was a duck, too.
Originally Posted by kckidd8870
You are blinded by the fact that you have already made up your mind about Cassel.
No QB makes ever throw perfect. Matter of fact, many of the most memorable throws in NFL history were hardly strikes. Staubach's "hail mary" throw to a wide open Drew Pearson to win the game vs Minnesota in the '75 play-offs slowed him down to a stop (letting the DB almost make a play), "the catch" thrown by Joe Montana was nearly out of the reach of Dwight Clark or what about the culmnination of the drive where John Elways pass to Mark Jackson was in the dirt?
If Cassel had many any of these throws, by your standards, you'd have to rag on him for his lack of accuracy.
The point is that not every throw is going to be perfect, so you can't go on "some feeling" you have about Cassel. If you do that, all you are going to do is focus on any throw he misses as "evidence" to that fact that he isn't any good. This isn't fair since every QB misses throws.
Objectively, here is what the facts are, currently. The Chiefs are 5-4 and doing better than anyone thought they would. Cassel is the 9th ranked passer in the NFL with an excellent rating of 94.5 and a 2nd in the NFL TD-INT ratio of 16-4.
Granted, Cassel's 3rd down passer rating could use improvement but part of this is that 8 of the Chiefs 12 dropped passes have come on 3rd down. The Chiefs overall 3rd down conversion problems are as much a result of a complete failure to convert 3rd and 2 or less on the ground as much as it is Cassel's passing.
Further, this isn't the whole picture. Cassel's 3rd down passing conversion percentage is at 37.8% which granted isn't good (ranking @ 22 in the NFL). You know whose at #20, though? Tom Brady at a nearly identical 39.2%. Guess you'd dump Brady, too. Peyton Manning is only at #15 at 42%. On the other hand, the king of 3rd down conversions this year is Carolina's Matt Moore @ 50%. I guess he is the best QB In the NFL.
Look Cassel is not perfect, but I think the 9th ranked passer rating is pretty accurate for where Cassel sits. You want a different QB, but who? Brady? Manning? Brees? Rivers? Good luck.
How about the other guys like Romo, Schaub or Flacco? Are these guys better than Cassel...probably not, in the same class, yes, but certainly not substantially better, if not lesser...
Keep in mind, too that Cassel has gotten where he is with the benefit of a good running game but - in spite of - arguably one of the worst WR corps in the NFL. BTW - if having a good running game keeps from being a good QB you probably wouldn't want Ben Roethlisburger, either.
Awesome post, been saying the same thing for weeks now.:postpimp4ib:
Originally Posted by wilqb16
Anyone who watches any other quarterback (yes even the Mannings, Brady, etc.) will see bad throws every game. If we went by a lot of people's logic on here, there is no such thing as a good quarterback.
I just got into a discussion with a guy saying the Chiefs should trade for Kevin Kolb...Seriously? People see a couple good games this guy plays and think he's the next hall of fame franchise QB. I've watched Kolb play...he has no pocket presence, is INACCURATE (as evidenced by his career 10/11 TD/INT ratio), and a lot of his game is heightened by the fact that he's throwing to stud WR's like Maclin and Desean Jackson. To sum it up, he's Jay Cutler with less mobility.
Sorry to get off on a tangent, I just was really peeved earlier to see that people have given up on Cassel (for no reason) and are ready to start the experiment over by trading more draft picks (likely a 1st, at least a 2nd) for another QB. The grass isn't always greener on the other side when it comes to getting new QBs. People think a lot of quarterbacks look better than the one we have (because ours is always under the microscope). Bring a new one and the same thing will happen. Kolb was less than impressive in most of his starts I have seen. When it comes down to it, the odds are against us finding the next Brees, Manning, Brady...But Cassel in my opinion is making great strides and is the future of this franchise.
I still do not think cassel will be a great QB nor is he the right QB for the CHIEFS but we can't bash him for his play the last 2 weeks. they were team losses and he would have to been great to pull them out without help from the rest of the team. let's look forward to just making the playoffs/winning the division