I saw this on facebook too.Quote:
Originally Posted by AkChief49
If it IS in fact Manning, then maybe all the people doubting his arm strength will simmer down a bit.
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I saw this on facebook too.Quote:
Originally Posted by AkChief49
If it IS in fact Manning, then maybe all the people doubting his arm strength will simmer down a bit.
They'll simmer down about the same time the oil analysts cool it on raising fuel prices. The media loves this story on a Tebow level. :efpge:Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan
how about;
$1 mil signing bonus
$500,000 each game started/played
$1 mil for 1st round playoff started/played
$1 mil for 1st round playoff victory
$2 mil for 2nd round playoff started/played
$1 mil for 2nd round playoff victory
$3 mil for afc championship game
$1 mil for afc championship victory
$4 mil for super bowl
$3 mil for super bowl victory
$25 mil total...just what the colts would have paid him
First let me say that I am not in or out of the "Get Manning" crowd. I am just a lifelong Chiefs fan and want to see us sweep the AFC West, win the division, win some playoff games and hopefully the Super Bowl. :chiefs:
That said, I remember the Montana era fondly and would be willing to see the Chiefs risk some serious kerching on Manning so long as a major portion of the money was based on performance.
I have no interest in Manning if he wants a huge guaranteed contract.....and I don't believe he does.
I'm sure there will be a lot of considerations that will go into Manning's decision some of which are....
1) I think he really wants another Super Bowl and will only sign with a team where he thinks that is a realistic possibility.
2) I think he would prefer to play in the AFC and certainly has no interest in playing in the NFC East due to his Brother being in NY.
3) I think he would rather play in a dome or if in an uncovered stadium then in a warmer climate.
4) If he proves to be that "missing piece" for a team and gets them to the AFC Championship or the Superbowl he is going to want a BIG PAYDAY.....something approaching what he would have gotten with the Colts if they had not released him.
5) He is still going to want some pretty good guaranteed money so that if he signs with a team and their offensive weapons get decimated by injuries (like we did last year) he still makes good money even if he doesn't achieve major playoff success.
So with all that said, I think the Chiefs have a lot of the non-financial things that he wants. We've got items 1 & 2 covered. Items # 4 & 5 we have the cap room to give him if management is willing. Where we are lacking is item # 3. But at least we are not way up North in the serious cold-country.
All in all, I think the Chiefs can get Manning if they want him.
I like all the performance based contracts that have been suggested, but I think our initial approach to Manning shouldn't be a firm offer. Rather I think we should say something like this to him/his agent......
"We have a MAX of about $20-$25 mill per year we can spend to bring you and/or other players/positions you would like to have around you to KC and we're willing to work within that number to get you here. Naturally, any money we spend bringing other players in leaves less money we can pay you. So what kind of package would make you want to come to KC?"
If he really cares about winning another Super Bowl, then maybe there are some players/positions he thinks are especially important for him to be able to succeed and our asking him about that might make us more attractive as a potential landing spot.
We brought in Marcus Allen and a few others when we brought in Montana and I think it would be smart to offer to do the same for Manning.
Being realistic, there are teams that are going to outbid us on a purely money basis, so I think we should make an effort to find out what the "intangible" factors are that would make the Chiefs most attractive to Manning.
If there are other player/positions he'd want addressed, then we enlist him to help us land those players by contacting them. If Manning really want a certain player or two, then I think the chances are good they will want to go where he does--whether it is by FA or trade.
All in all, I think that if management really wants him they should talk to him about what will make him happiest in KC rather than just how much money he wants. After all, this all goes back to item # 1--Manning really wanting to win another Super Bowl.
If that is Manning's primary concern then I think we should show him that we are every bit as serious about winning a Super Bowl as he is.
According to warpaint illustrated the offer was 34 mil to sign. Read elsewhere it was a multi year deal. Don't know the validity of that but it's the first numbers I've seen.
CT for #3 Peyton said when he was drafted he'd rather play outdoors where football was meant to be played. Granted that was in 98. I said a lot of stuff then I wouldn't want now...
Exactly. Having Manning would give us a REAL chance at a Super Bowl!Quote:
Originally Posted by My Man Orton