just for fun the guy who called all of the offensive plays for miami in that blow out. is our new oc. haley was a huge problem for us last year. this team is going to smack some people around
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Here are a couple of facts that you keep ignoring.
Fact 1 While Orton was in there the offense had the same BIG problem they did with Cassel they could move into the red zone then come to a complete stop and settle for field goal after field goal. Yes the Green Bay game was good but 1 out of 3 games you think that's a good result?
Fact 2. Coaching. What happend the only play Orton had under Haley. It was a silly gimmick play and Orton got hurt. Haley had his imput in the offense and not all the input was good. With Romeo there was not as many people involved with the offense. Orton got to play in that offense Cassel didn't it's apples to oranges. We never saw Cassel play with the coaching makeup that we saw Orton play in those 3 games. We will never no if Cassel could have done what Orton did under the same conditions
Once again HE HAD MORE THEN A WEEK Don't lie about that that's why people think your a troll. He was signed on Nov 22nd first start DEC 18th THATS MORE THEN A WEEK.
And again your ignoring the coaching situation. Don't you think a coaching change has some affect on an offense? Wouldn't you say that's fair to say? I'm not saying Cassel would have been as good as Orton was I'm just saying you can't compare what players did under 2 different Head coaches. Does that sound to unreasonable to you?
Also lets not declare that Cassel will be mediocre with this coaching staff just yet. The new OC turned Reggie Bush from what people would say is mediocre to a 1,000 yard rusher in the NFL. He could do the same with Cassel turn him from mediocre to much better or even help Cassel take a step to being one of the better QBs in the NFL.
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Orton was Questionable because he was put in to the game against the bears was given a stupid gimmick play and got hurt. Since when is it only a week from NOV 22nd to DEC 18th. That's almost a month with his new team. You wonder why people call you a troll? Now NOV 22nd to Dec 18th is " a week if that" ? The game going against the bears he had almost 2 weeks of pratice. He was inactive against the steelers in between when he was claimed to the game against the bears. Stop just making things up to suit your opinion. Nov 22nd to DEC 4 is more then a week and that was to the Bears game not the Packers. Now if you want to say that Cassel had more time with the team ok no problem but don't try to make Orton look like he was just blindly throw in there.
That OC was on a team that fired there coach yes but that coach was going to be fired outside anything but a superbowl. If you recall they went after Jim Harbaugh last year. They had there eyes on Jeff Fisher even before the season began last year. He was dead man walking and everyone knew it. They start 0-7 but they got on a real role. And offense was not the only reason they were 0-7 the TEAM was 0-7 not the offense.
Are you really going to judge Cassel by his 09 year? Really? What QB in the NFL would have done well on that team. That was for the most part the same team that went 2-14 in 08. With a rookie head coach. They beat the then defending superbowl champs that year. They doubled the win total from 08. Under Cassel in 09 they were a whole lot better then they were the 08 season. 2010 The Chiefs were the best team in the AFC WEST. That is a FACT. Point to the "cream puffs" they played but those "cream puffs" beat every one eles in the West at least twice. They didn't beat the Chiefs. Matt Cassel did better against the "cream puffs" then Philp Rivers and Orton and whoever it was with the faiders then. 2011 show me a QB that would not suffer losing the MVP of the offense. Show me a QB that wouldn't suffer losing your biggest Red zone threat. Cassel has to be better then he was last year but he was also not put in that great of a situation you can't ignore that.
I understand you don't like this management and Cassel but you have to give them credit where it is due. This team is a whole lot better then it was at the end of the 2008 season. Cassel is a part of that. We now have a pretty solid O line and are getting our weapons back. If you still think Cassel is the biggest problem this offense has I say go back and watch Tyler Palko.
It is kind of fun when he keeps throwing lies out there!
What offseason practice? Have you already forgotten that there was a lockout last year and a very much shortened preseason?
They started Chad Henne for 3 of those games and he sucked. It took Matt Moore 4 games to get the offense down because he came in as a back-up and he is not much better than Henne. Once he did though, The 'Fins went 7-2. That's a pretty good record. And That OC who got that kind of performance out of Matt Moore now has a real QB to work with.
You seem to ignore the facts surrounding the stats that you "cherry pick" (only counting less than half of a season). You start with a preconceived opinion and then twist stats and facts to support that opinion, or just make up your own facts.
Even if you are going to come to foolish conclusions you should still start with real facts!