Cassel can still have a great lavish life as a back up QB somewhere else. He's hit the lotto five years in a row with his contact. I don't feel bad for him.
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Cassel can still have a great lavish life as a back up QB somewhere else. He's hit the lotto five years in a row with his contact. I don't feel bad for him.
Whitlock may not be 100% wrong but the guy thinks Herm Edwards is a good coach. I rest my case I don't really take anything he says to be the truth
I hear you....both in this post and the previous one.
No doubt in my mind that Cassel WANTED to be a HUGE success in KC. And no doubt he tried damned hard to be a big success in KC. He moved here. He got involved with the local community. During the strike he reached out to other players in an attempt to be a leader. Matt Cassel is a damned good guy.
People have been calling for his head for a long time. Others (myself included) have stuck by him.
He tried his absolute best but it just didn't work out.
His fault? Management fault? Coaching fault?
I dunno.
What I do know is that it is over for Cassel as a Chief.
It's like when your girlfriend says "Sweetie...I love you BUT...."
Simply put, it is over.
Hopefully the Chiefs and Cassel can part ways on a friendly basis and Matt can find another team willing to give him a chance. Maybe he can be a success somewhere else. But the Matt Cassel as a Chief train has gone off the tracks and it is time to close that book.
Good luck Matt. I for one honestly wish you well....somewhere else.
Yeah, i have been talking trash about him for a couple years now. Hey, i saw it, he is not that good. But seeing how timid he was Sunday, on his throws...it looked like he was so worried his pass would be bad and then it would be...and the team making him handoff 50 unbelievable times, had to be absolutely humiliating. And then to top it off, having to leave the field like that, was tough. I would have to say, that HAD to be one of his worst days ever in his life. I look at it this way. The coaches let him play and upper managemet let him play...so, he played. What is he gonna do? Go sit down on the bench? No, he played and did what he could like he was supposed to. But he wasnt any good at it.
I hope the guy lands on his feet, his bank account sure will. I remember I was sitting in Gates when I read we picked him and Vrabel for a 2nd round. I said niceeee. But it didnt work out and he needs to move on to another city. He is done here. And good luck to him.
Ill respectfully disagree that Cassels time in KC is over. He's most likely out this week and then we have our bye week.
Be careful what you (and I) wish for, Quinn isn't the greatest QB. We are so desperate for anything that gets this team going that we are putting players like Orton and Quinn on a level they have never earned the right to be on.
As bad as it is I still believe Cassel gives us a better chance to win, and that's not a fun place to be.
If this turns into Gannon/Grbac 2 imma loose my frickin mind.
Exactly.
He wanted to succeed.
You wanted him to succeed.
I wanted him to succeed.
Most Chiefs fans wanted him to succeed.
Whether the failure is his fault....all the coaching changes or whatever doesn't matter any more.
It was a good ride for his bank account and I am SURE a tough ride for his ego.
But like that REALLY HOT girl 16 years my junior I was seeing a few years ago....it's over now and we all need to move on.
Matt to whoever will hire him.
And us to "Who the hell do we get that can get us a shot at the Superbowl!!!!!"
:chiefs::chiefs::chiefs:
I hope you are wrong about Cassel coming back after the bye week. That would be horrible.
I agree that Quinn and Stanzi are PROBABLY not the answer, but Cassel is CERTAINLY not the answer. At this point the only team Cassel can beat on a regular basis is the Chiefs.
Quinn has more experience. Let him play the 6th and 7th game. If he flops then let Stanzi play games 8-16.
Barring a miracle our season is over. Let's use the remaining 11 games to see if we have a decent quarterback on the roster. If we don't, then we know damned well what position we should pick with our first pick in the draft.
I agree with your line of reasoning
But
Everyone has said this team needs a spark to get going and gain confidence on the offensive side of the ball. Right or wrong it looks like the team has rallied around this injury to our starting QB. The more outspoken players have thrown the fan base under the bus, they have another common goal in Matt. I would look for them to come out against the Raiders, at home, with Matt and finally put an offensive game together.
I can't argue against your idea here because it deals with the team's "emotion" and emotion is impervious to logic. You are certainly right that if the whole cheering/booing/injury thing really fired the team up to shove it in the fan's face then we could run the table from here out. Stranger things have happened though I can't think of one right now.
But since you are being reasonable (which is a bit uncommon around here these days) IF Cassel does start again.....at what point do you accept that the season is shot and that it is time to give Quinn and Stanzi their shots and start thinking about next year's draft?
I am not being argumentative, but I have moved on from Cassel, accepted in my heart that this season is going to be a bust and am thinking about what we can do to bring our beloved Chiefs the success they and we deserve.
Since you don't seem to be at that point, in your opinion, when is it time for us as fans to give up on Cassel?
If we stick with Cassel and go 4-12, 6-10, 7-9 without giving Quinn and Stanzi a thorough tryout then I think this season will have been a HUGE WASTE.
I'd rather go 2-14 and give both Quinn and Stanzi both a chance to show what they are made of than go 7-9 with Cassel and get no real look at Quinn and Stanzi.
Your thoughts please.
To salvage any part of this season we have to find the real answer to our QB question. Sure if this was a Disney movie something special might happen where Cassel comes back from his injury, we win the superbowl and then he rides Sea Biscuit in the parade.
However, in the real world it would be better off for us to find out what we actually have on the roster. Give Quinn the time to show if he has taken a personal interest in becoming a better player these last two years. I'd say give him more than 2 games to demonstrate this. If he isn't then give the Stanzi the chance.
If none of the QBs on the roster are worthwhile, best to know now and then address it with the high round draft pick we will surely have.
Also, once it becomes mathematically impossible to have any type of ramifications for the playoffs even in the terrible AFC West, they should start resting players and curb their playing time. (Charles, Flowers, Johnson) If this is a throw away season then save the players we need.